MSU Game: Coaching - Game Plan, Play Calling, Motivation, Half Time Adjustments

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SteveM

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Steve's idea of a QB-Centric Post Mortem seems like a good idea.

Here's a Coaching Centric thread.

Moderator, if you want to stick to a single thread, just kill this.

SteveM (The clever erudite one.)
 

loomis41973

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Poor game plan.
Piss-poor play calling.
Low motivation.
NO player development.

Starting to feel like i did when Faust was around.
 
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First Potshots

First Potshots

  • OK, I'll start. The play calling stinks. This is college, not the NFL. Creative play calling is expected.
  • Not even attempting to use the tight end drives me nuts. A Jay Novacek guy who is just there at 8, 10 yards when a play breaks down.
  • And simple variational stuff like a shovel pass. How hard is that to insert into the playbook?
  • Not putting backs in motion. Pros get confused by guys moving around. Why not exploit it at the college level where the defense is even greener?.
  • Lastly, Clausen aims for the sidelines on almost every pass. Where are the patterns into the middle to mix it up.
  • This ain't coaching, but where the hell is a fullback? A Mark Edwards type that can create his own yardage to keep the defense honest?
I can go on but erudite makes me thirsty.

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Golden_Domer88

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Everything wrong with Notre Dame right now is Coaching!

Get off the Charlie Weis wagon and see that the only thing he can do is recruit. Yeah you can recruit top ten classes like he has but you still have to develope the talent. We need a coach who knows how to bring in HS players and develope them into college players. WE NEED A COACH WHO ACTUALLY HAS COACHED IN THE COLLEGE RANKS ONLY!!!!!

Reasons for needing a new coaching staff (except tenuta and brown)

1. The O-line is terrible. Good lord we cant even run the ball! Good pass protection but you have to beable to run the ball somewhat to keep the D on their heels. It will open up the pass game.

2. NO MOTIVATION!! Wheres this NASTY team that weis said we would have when he was hired? We are SOFT!!! Yes its ND and its prestigous but come on get hyped and crack some damn helmets. God wont strike you down for played hard and hitting people like your suppose to do.... i.e USC.

3. Play calling......really? Its college not the Pros. It seems like what ever starts working we going away from it. BE CREATIVE!!!

4. Just get a new coach. Um like lets see......Skip Holtz!!!! Yeah his team lost today but he has no where near the talent ND has. If he can develope a bunch of 2-3 star players and walk-ons like he has. Imagine what he can do for ND.

Get real and see that Weis cannot coach at the college level!
 

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Everything wrong with Notre Dame right now is Coaching!

Get off the Charlie Weis wagon and see that the only thing he can do is recruit. Yeah you can recruit top ten classes like he has but you still have to develope the talent. We need a coach who knows how to bring in HS players and develope them into college players. WE NEED A COACH WHO ACTUALLY HAS COACHED IN THE COLLEGE RANKS ONLY!!!!!

Reasons for needing a new coaching staff (except tenuta and brown)

1. The O-line is terrible. Good lord we cant even run the ball! Good pass protection but you have to beable to run the ball somewhat to keep the D on their heels. It will open up the pass game.

2. NO MOTIVATION!! Wheres this NASTY team that weis said we would have when he was hired? We are SOFT!!! Yes its ND and its prestigous but come on get hyped and crack some damn helmets. God wont strike you down for played hard and hitting people like your suppose to do.... i.e USC.

3. Play calling......really? Its college not the Pros. It seems like what ever starts working we going away from it. BE CREATIVE!!!

4. Just get a new coach. Um like lets see......Skip Holtz!!!! Yeah his team lost today but he has no where near the talent ND has. If he can develope a bunch of 2-3 star players and walk-ons like he has. Imagine what he can do for ND.

Get real and see that Weis cannot coach at the college level!

Is your plan just to come on every thread and rant about Charlie Weis being fired? Where were you last week after the Michigan game? Not here. So all of a sudden he should be fired because we lost on the road w/ a bunch of freshmen and sophomores? And you want to hire a KID who just to a putrid team they were WAAYYYYYY better than (supposedly), a kid who MIGHT be good in the future but still has so much to prove, over a guy who took us to 2 BCS bowl games in the last 3 years? Are you for real? So you just want to start over, AGAIN? I can't stand it when people just want to hire Johnny Come Lately and blow up what they have going. Ty was a great firing; firing Weis and blowup the recruiting and improvement we're maing already would be premature.

I feel your frustration; the O-Line and D-Lines, again, were disappointing to see the least. But there is VAST improvement from last year, and that young talent is just doing to keep playing better and better. It's funny how you rant and rave about NO PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, but you neglect to mention GOLDEN F-ING TATE. I guy who could run but one route last year now looks like a first-rounder. Ummm, I think that's called development. And there's more:

*Brian Smith: Holy cow what a stud.
*Kyle McCarthy - leading the nation in tackles, and not because he's late getting to plays. Those who say that don't know what a safety does.
*Jimmy Clausen - So much better than last year. Just wait - he's special.
*Bruton - Has turned into a highly touted NFL prospect.

I could go on and on. Yeah, we want to see more. We NEED to see more. But just chill out a bit. Starting over with the brand new everything is the stupidest thing we could do right now. Just ask the NYGiants if keeping Coughlin worked out? Ask the Raiders if letting go of Gruden and hiring like 20 coaches since has worked out. If he sucks - get rid of him. CW doesn't suck. If the team doesn't show improvement, I'm with you. But right now, you're way off base...
 
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