Pre-Season Practice News

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Figure we should make a thread for all practice news.

Here is some news on Friday's practice: Practice Observations_ 8/8/08 | The Journal Gazette

Notre Dame football -- it's baaack. As are the practice observations, a staple of Insights since its inception in August 2006. Practice took place on the new Fieldturf practice fields installed where Moose Krause Stadium used to be and they are impeccable. Each yard-line is marked off -- a vast improvement from the concrete-like grass they had practiced on prior -- and the field even looks somewhat like Notre Dame Stadium's natural grass, with diagonal lines adorning the end zones.

Impressed with the new turf, which had a bouncy and spongelike feeling to it, these initial observations are offered.


As per NCAA regulations, players were in jerseys, helmets and shorts for the first practice of the year. It'll be this way Saturday and Sunday as well.


There's a Montana in practice -- freshman walk-on quarterback Nate Montana, who is wearing No. 16. Some players were giving Montana a hard time during his first practice, saying "Oh my god, Joe Montana." Of course, wearing the red jersey that could be associated with both the San Francisco 49ers and Kansas City Chiefs -- the two teams papa Joe played for -- probably didn't help.
Sophomore quarterback Jimmy Clausen gave an exhuberant yell during calisthentics drills.

Not sure what was going on -- a lost jersey, punishment, whatever -- but sophomore wide receiver Duval Kamara wore No. 60 instead of his usual No. 18 during practice. Wide receivers coach Rob Ianello made sure to come over to give him a hard time about it.


Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis joked with quarterback Evan Sharpley that the media only asked about his baseball skills. Except that he was pretty much right, mainly because there isn't a quarterback competition this year.
Scouts from the Washington Redskins and New Orleans Saints showed up.

At tight end, Will Yeatman looks bigger than he did a year ago. His arms are huge. And sophomore Mike Ragone also looks markedly bigger, not quite Yeatman's size but certainly larger than the wide receiver build he had last year. Don't remember if he had it last year or not, but Ragone had a brace on his left knee Monday.
Michael Floyd -- more on him later -- looks like he fits right in, size-wise, with the rest of the wide receivers.
First-team offense: WR: Duval Kamara and David Grimes; FB: Asaph Schwapp; HB: Robert Hughes; QB: Jimmy Clausen; TE: Mike Ragone; OL (l-r): Paul Duncan; Eric Olsen; Dan Wenger; Chris Stewart and Sam Young.
Second-team offense: WR: Robby Parris and Golden Tate; FB: Steve Paskorz; HB: James Aldridge; QB: Evan Sharpley; TE: Will Yeatman; OL (l-r): Mike Turkovich, Andrew Nuss, Thomas Bemenderfer, Trevor Robinson, Taylor Dever.
Third-team offense (No WR): QB: Dayne Crist; HB: Armando Allen; FB: Mike Navarez; TE: Kyle Rudolph; OL: Lane Clelland, Mike Hernandez, Matt Romine, Braxston Cave, Mike Golic Jr.
Others in attendance: New athletic director Jack Swarbrick, who was literally everywhere Insights was Monday -- at Charlie Weis' news conference, the assistant and players conferences, men's basketball open practice and then football practice. For one of his first days on campus, he's making the rounds well. Also there: former Notre Dame All-American and College Football Hall of Famer Chris Zorich.

And some more on Friday: http://www.etruth.com/Know/StaffBlogs/ViewBlog.aspx?bID=698

Weis' impressions of Day 1
Posted: August 09, 2008 01:00 PM


Here's a typical Q&A exchange from a Notre Dame media day interview:

Reporter: "Coach, what do you think of Player X?"

Coach: "I don't know. I haven't seen him practice yet. Ask me tomorrow or next week."

Media day is great for the general-impression stuff and it's a gold mine for the reporters who aren't here every day and can swoop in, get a bunch of soundbites and move on to the next school, but there's just not a lot of good information out there because the coaches haven't seen the players live yet.

That's why the first question of Charlie Weis on Day 2 of camp is always something along the lines of, "Now that you've seen them practice, what do you think?"

It was the same Saturday, and we can now pass along actual information and opinion from the coach himself. So here we go:

• The team is in "very good shape," Weis said. "That was encouraging. The only guy we didn't know if he'd go at full speed was (Will) Yeatman, and he went full speed pretty much the whole day, too. It was good to see everyone out there and healthy and running around. Obviously, Ruben (Mendoza) did a good job, because they were in very good shape."

• A "bunch" of freshmen stood out on the first day, but that's partly because many of them were playing against third-teamers, like defensive end Ethan Johnson.

"Ethan Johnson is a guy who looked really good yesterday, but he's also running against the third offensive line," Weis said. "So now all of a sudden, you take a guy like Ethan Johnson and put him against the first offensive line, you see if you see a lot of the same things you saw yesterday, because yesterday he was in the backfield the whole day."

Many of the freshmen appear physically ready to play right now, though. Weis put running back Jonas Gray in this category Friday, and receiver Michael Floyd belongs there, too. Saturday, Weis added tight end Kyle Rudolph and linebacker Steve Filer to that list.

Rudolph weighed 215 pounds when Weis began recruiting him as a junior in high school. Now he's 255 and "still looks thin," Weis said. Filer was 205-210 in high school and is now 235.

"There's a big difference between a linebacker being 235 and being 210," Weis said.

One final note on the freshmen: Weis said the depth chart will change a lot in the next week or so as the coaches slot the first-year players.


More on Friday: BlueandGold.com

(video at link)

Back out on the practice fields! And what a beautiful day it was out there today…

I received a message earlier telling me that the practice was going to be on the “new” fields. Considering that I had to ask if that was anywhere by the old fields, I realized how long it has been since I’ve been on campus – spring football. A lot has happened since then and that itch has finally been somewhat scratched today now that the offseason run is over.

Better With Time

The new practice fields look great, and is it just me that feels that nicer things always come around after you graduate? Same can be said for my high school. I take off and they get new fields, so all the sports (football, soccer, lacrosse, etc.) don’t have to play on one. At Notre Dame, the Gug is built and the team practices on grass turf not only inside, but outside now as well.

more free at the BGI article.
 
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Here's some from Saturday: http://www.etruth.com/Know/StaffBlogs/ViewBlog.aspx?bID=700
If you've never walked on a FieldTurf-type surface like the one recently installed at Notre Dame's practice facility, I highly recommend it. Much more comfortable than regular grass. The trade-off is that the comfort comes from these little ground-up bits of rubber — recycled tires, I think — that tend to get in your shoes. But, having shaken them out, I can give you the details of Saturday's practice.

It was overcast here in Northern Indiana, and I felt a couple of raindrops as practice started at 2:30, but it didn't really rain that hard while we were there. (Just heard a clap of thunder, though). Notre Dame started by stretching on the middle practice field, which coach Charlie Weis called the "United Nations" field because it was marked for football, soccer and lacrosse. The other new turf field has football markings only. Notre Dame broke the post-stretching huddle by shouting, "Get better!"

The defense began with a pursuit drill. The first team was made up of linemen Morrice Richardson, Ian Williams and Pat Kuntz; linebackers Brian Smith, Harrison Smith, Maurice Crum Jr. and Kerry Neal; safeties David Bruton and Kyle McCarthy; and cornerbacks Raeshon McNeil and Terrail Lambert.

The second team: Linemen Justin Brown, Paddy Mullen and Emeka Nwankwo; linebackers Scott Smith; Toryan Smith, Steve Quinn and John Ryan; safeties Sergio Brown and Ray Herring; and corners Gary Gray and Leonard Gordon.

Third-teamers were: Linemen Ethan Johnson, Brandon Newman and Sean Cwynar; linebackers Steve Filer, Anthony McDonald, David Posluzny and Kallen Wade; safeties Mike Anello and Jashaad Gaines; and corners Dan McCarthy and Robert Blanton.

The third team — which was made up of a lot of freshmen, as you can see — was a little slow getting to its starting positions, leading defensive line coach Jappy Oliver to shout, "Take the field with a sense of urgency!" I don't want to single out Ethan Johnson here, but he looked totally confused, probably because this was his first time doing the drill. Coach Jon Tenuta dropped the ball to indicate which side of the field the defenders were supposed to pursue toward, and Johnson stopped for a second as if he wasn't sure if he should be running or grabbing the ball. That minor miscue aside, Johnson looks a pretty good player, though it's really strange to see someone besides Tom Zbikowski wearing No. 9. Since freshman tight end Kyle Rudolph also wears that number, we may be seeing it on both sides of the ball this season.

After the pursuit drill, the defense broke up into position groups. The linemen moved laterally across a set of five bags laid parallel on the ground. The idea was for the player to sidestep over the first three bags and then work their back the way they came. If I've described this well enough, you can see that there was the potential for players to bump into each other in the middle, but that didn't happen, even though Oliver said, "Go half-speed because these guys will screw it up!"

As a sign that there are a lot of newcomers around, though, you can't do any better than Oliver's comment to one of the student managers whose job (though she didn't know it at first) was to reach in and straighten out the bags when they got kicked askew.

Oliver told her, "Make sure you don't get kicked in the face."

Good advice, that.

More on Saturday: Practice Observations_ 8/9/08 | The Journal Gazette

The heat is hiding. At least, I'm convinced of that right now. Here in South Bend, where Notre Dame is in its second day of fall camp, it has been pretty cool all day and as the Irish started practice outside on the new LaBar practice fields, it began to drizzle. Don't forget to send us e-mails to mrothstein@jg.net as I'll likely start up the Mailbag this week at some point. Any and all questions are welcomed. Or, comment below the post. We receive those, too.


Last note about Jimmy and The Cup: Maybe the kid has a sense of humor about this after all. As Clausen ran toward the stretching line during practice, he held his arms up and appeared to have his pinky extended -- familiar because it's similar to one of the poses Clausen had in the picture.


Ron Powlus' son, Ronnie, was at practice along with an older member of the Powlus family. A cute moment, as Ron came over to Ronnie and Ronnie gave him what we think was a candy. A small moment, but still, don't see that all the time at football practice. Meanwhile, at basketball practice Friday, Anthony Solomon's son -- who has a heck of a handle for a small kid -- shot around and played with former Irish standouts Chris Quinn and Colin Falls. Ronnie was the star of the day as Rob Ianello also came over to chat with the kid.


Kyle McCarthy's arms are noticeably bigger than last year. It's probably necessary as he's listed as the starter to replace Tom Zbikowski at safety.
Ethan Johnson doesn't look like a freshman. Dude has big arms and, much like our observation with Michael Floyd yesterday, looks like he could be a junior.


The comedy of Pat Kuntz. After he watched walk-ons do a pursuit drill, Kuntz told walk-on linebacker Joe Vittoria "that's not a pursuit angle." Judging from his voice, though, it sounded like he was just giving Vittoria a hard time for fun.
First team defense: CB: Terrail Lambert, Raeshon McNeil; S: David Bruton, Kyle McCarthy; LB: Harrison Smith, Brian Smith, Maurice Crum, Kerry Neal. DL: Pat Kuntz, Ian Williams, Morrice Richardson.
When the third team defense took its time getting on the field, defensive line coach Jappy Oliver barked: "Take the damn field. Come on."
Assistant coach Brian Polian also went to the third team after the pursuit drill and explained to them to follow the way the coach moves with the ball.
Sam Young looks bigger than the spring as well and Mike Turkovich had good movement with the blocking sled.
Offensive line coach spent a few moments explaining near side blocking to offensive lineman Taylor Dever during a three-on-three drill.
Of all the interior linemen, Eric Olsen seems the most talkative in the group. Could be the sign of a leader forming.

During the media portion of practice, Weis watched the offensive line and spent time talking to the tight ends, we think about balance but Weis wasn't exactly speaking loudly.

And some more from Saturday: BlueandGold.com

Another beautiful day on the practice fields today as the Irish took the field in just helmets and shorts again...

Still early to hear the grunts from soreness after working so hard each day, but I’m sure that will start kicking in here soon. Brings back a lot of memories seeing some of the trainers (especially in my case) like Jim Russ still around and catching up with them for a bit.

Of course in true Jim Russ fashion, he had to throw his jab in there as well. “Tell people you would have been a healthier athlete if you had nice stuff like this,” he said in reference to the nice grass turf on the new LaBar practice fields. “I feel like we’re practicing at a bowl game everyday.”

Lead By Example

With the freshmen catching a lot of heat from the coaches to get them going, the upper classmen are certainly chiming in to support them as well. In addition to the coaches, younger players learn from seniors at their positions who have been going through the process throughout their careers and have received just about every critique possible. It’s great to see that type of unity this early in camp on the team since at times you’ll find that there isn’t much communication between the two.

more free at the BGI article.
 
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I've been reading some inserts from people who have attended the practices. They're saying that everyone looks good except the o-line..... giving up sacks and averaging 2-3 yards a carry sounds like 2007. Latina must go if the line can't produce..
 

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serious? the latina must go stuff is starting already? with 4 practices under their belts, today being the first in full pads?
 
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Good lord, give the O-Line a break until after today. A big part of their position is contact but you can't got all out without pads on.

Everyone calm down
 

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fyi, SubwayDomer's blog has short 3 minute videos of the practices if anyone wants to view. they are short so you don't get a good idea of how the practices are going. But if you're like me and you're dying to see the blue and gold in action, it at least gives you an appeteaser.
 

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serious? the latina must go stuff is starting already? with 4 practices under their belts, today being the first in full pads?


During this past off season when there were rumors about coaching changes.. I was thrilled because I thought Latina was gonna go bye bye. I haven't been very fond of him at all and I heard that him and Weis are finally getting along. Whats that all about or what truth does that hold? Anybody?
 

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It's far too late to make any changes now. Hopefully Latina has simplified the scheme enough where guys won't be wiffing blocks this year. The talent is there. It's just a matter of guys knowing their assignments. My personal belief is that last years failure was a perfect storm of crap.

1. Charlie and John having every lineman cross learn multiple positions. It's one thing with 2nd team and upper class players. Not so much with new starters.

2. Lack of contact last preseason. You practice how you play. If you don't practice, you play like 2007's unit.

3. The whole scheme looked to confuse the guys most of the year. It looked to me to be far too much missing assignments, as opposed to missing physical blocks. Whether this was from the cross training, or too complicated a scheme for 2nd year linemen is still unanswered.

Hopefully these things won't be the situation this year.
 

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Doesn't seem like there was much new today, but todays practice was open to the media for the entire practice, and it was also the first day that the Irish went full pads. Practice reports should hopefully be more interesting and insightful when they come out tomorrow morning.
 

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The O-Line looked real good in the team drills on that video, physical and nasty down hill running, oh I hope its not just a tease.
 

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Armando Allen played great according to II yesterday. Hopefully he keeps it up as he is going to be a huge weapon for us. He is pushing for the starting job.
 

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So Duncan is out of LT. He just can't handle it as we saw last year. Good luck to Turk, I'd still like to see Romine cement that spot down. It sucks that he wasted a year of eligibility for a few minutes of play last season.
 
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So Duncan is out of LT. He just can't handle it as we saw last year. Good luck to Turk, I'd still like to see Romine cement that spot down. It sucks that he wasted a year of eligibility for a few minutes of play last season.

He should be able to easily get an injury redshirt if they haven't already applied for one.
 
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Goodman looked like a beast out there...

I agree. from the little amount of video i saw, Goodman looks very polished. He has quick feet, good speed and nice hands. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that he gets the second most minutes next year as a freshman reciever. After Floyd and before Deion Walker. I originally never saw him as someone who would contribute much this year, or next year. He is quickly proving me wrong.
 

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I think part of the problem is the different expectations we had. Goodman seemed to run under the radar- easy to do when you sign earlier than the other WRs and you aren't named either M Floyd or D Walker.
 

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Anyone have video from yesterday? the free video on ndnation.com only showed 2-3 minutes of the d-lineman.
 
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