Wisconsin Company Limits Muslim Prayers to Scheduled Breaks

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When I was in college in the early 90s, I worked for AT&T as an operator. Great job, great pay, no flexibility. Two 15 minute breaks, and a 30 minute lunch. Had to turn the light on if you went to the restroom, and wait for the light to go on before you went.... Sat side by side with several Muslim friends. They did not have a problem with AT&T's process and requirements.... Mid 90s worked in a call center, with pretty much the same inflexibility. No problems there either.

IMO, companies do not have a duty to go out of their way to appease all religions. So long as they treat everyone the same, I have no problem with this. Like separation of Church and State, Church and business don't have to be intertwined either.

My Muslim friends (very close to 3) back in the 90s were just happy to be here, loved the opportunity to get a US education, and respected the US culture. The only thing some of them struggled with was their attitude about and towards women. Outside of that, they did not feel the need to push for this, or complain about that. These days it seems everyone feels entitled to transform the US into something more aligned with the country or culture they left or took flight from.

Well stated.

I started four call centers. Two were collections for Sallie Mae. Tough environment.
 

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This is why national theocracies or at least theocratically-inspired policy correlate with Islamic majority. It's not just a religion, but a system of life, government, and business.
 

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When I was in college in the early 90s, I worked for AT&T as an operator. Great job, great pay, no flexibility. Two 15 minute breaks, and a 30 minute lunch. Had to turn the light on if you went to the restroom, and wait for the light to go on before you went.... Sat side by side with several Muslim friends. They did not have a problem with AT&T's process and requirements.... Mid 90s worked in a call center, with pretty much the same inflexibility. No problems there either.

IMO, companies do not have a duty to go out of their way to appease all religions. So long as they treat everyone the same, I have no problem with this. Like separation of Church and State, Church and business don't have to be intertwined either.

My Muslim friends (very close to 3) back in the 90s were just happy to be here, loved the opportunity to get a US education, and respected the US culture. The only thing some of them struggled with was their attitude about and towards women. Outside of that, they did not feel the need to push for this, or complain about that. These days it seems everyone feels entitled to transform the US into something more aligned with the country or culture they left or took flight from.

Truth. Somehow we went from "open arms to everyone who comes here legally and will assimilate" to "cater to everyone's wants or racism." Ask the Germans how their new "citizens" are assimilating these days...
 

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This is why national theocracies or at least theocratically-inspired policy correlate with Islamic majority. It's not just a religion, but a system of life, government, and business.

Are you saying you don't want to hear the Adhan 5 times a day over the PA at work?
 

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Are you saying you don't want to hear the Adhan 5 times a day over the PA at work?

Coming to a small town near you!


Residents complain that ‘call to prayer’ is too loud | Hamtramck Review

The Polish people think we were invading them,” said Masud Khan, one of the mosque’s leaders, recalling that time in an interview earlier this month. “We were a big threat to their religion and culture. Now their days are gone.”

Hamtramck, a community where it's now illegal to obtain a liquor license if your business is located within 500 feet of a mosque (there are four mosques in the 2sq mi of the city).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/for-the-first-majority-muslim-us-city-residents-tense-about-its-future/2015/11/21/45d0ea96-8a24-11e5-be39-0034bb576eee_story.html
 
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And you wonder why some Liberals have an issue with Christianity. Just read your second paragraph again.

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America is in no way a Catholic country, a lot of it was actually pretty anti-Catholic at its roots. But insofar as it treats Catholics fairly, I don't see any need for it to, say, order civic life around our holy days, fasts, etc., or to refrain from celebrating its own holidays. Live and let live.

I would expect the reciprocal attitude from Protestants in Italy or Poland.

I don't think I have any right to go to Japan or France or Israel or Saudia Arabia or Tibet and demand they start changing their culture to suit my beliefs. I actually think that cultures should be respected and people other than secularist atheists have a right to live out their beliefs in public without constant interference from the people that can throw you in jail or find you.
 

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When I was in college in the early 90s, I worked for AT&T as an operator. Great job, great pay, no flexibility. Two 15 minute breaks, and a 30 minute lunch. Had to turn the light on if you went to the restroom, and wait for the light to go on before you went.... Sat side by side with several Muslim friends. They did not have a problem with AT&T's process and requirements.... Mid 90s worked in a call center, with pretty much the same inflexibility. No problems there either.

IMO, companies do not have a duty to go out of their way to appease all religions. So long as they treat everyone the same, I have no problem with this. Like separation of Church and State, Church and business don't have to be intertwined either.

My Muslim friends (very close to 3) back in the 90s were just happy to be here, loved the opportunity to get a US education, and respected the US culture. The only thing some of them struggled with was their attitude about and towards women. Outside of that, they did not feel the need to push for this, or complain about that. These days it seems everyone feels entitled to transform the US into something more aligned with the country or culture they left or took flight from.

I can almost agree. Altho. If we keep laying down rights like this we are giving the corporations more power over us as people. This does seem to be deliberate fodder for the weak minded, media seeking folk. It's a way to say we will own you and your rights, Union, self worth. This isn't as much of a religious thing as It is a lets start inslaving the minds of our workers and make them do what we say or else. Be afraid. Be very afraid with this new corporation run America.
 
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