Peyton's dilemma

[weisbankaccount]

hehehe,

keep picking the Colts. Im wondering if the colts will even reach 20 minutes of possesion time. Who is going to stop Jones and Bensen? Dont tell Bob Sanders either - I might laugh and spit up my coffee.

 

[FleaFlicker]

hehehe,

keep picking the Colts. Im wondering if the colts will even reach 20 minutes of possesion time. Who is going to stop Jones and Bensen? Dont tell Bob Sanders either - I might laugh and spit up my coffee.

Well if the Colts front 7 play like they did in the first two playoff games, they shouldn't have too much trouble.

The one thing on Chicago's side in that game was the sloppy field. It doesn't make passing very easy. But it makes hardnosed FB a LOT easier. North-South running and all about the LOS.

 

[Junkhead]

hehehe,

keep picking the Colts. Im wondering if the colts will even reach 20 minutes of possesion time. Who is going to stop Jones and Bensen? Dont tell Bob Sanders either - I might laugh and spit up my coffee.

I want the Bears to win, but the Colts did hold the Saints to 56yds rushing...

 

[solo]

hehehe,

keep picking the Colts. Im wondering if the colts will even reach 20 minutes of possesion time. Who is going to stop Jones and Bensen? Dont tell Bob Sanders either - I might laugh and spit up my coffee.

The AFC Title game was the real Superbowl. In fact, I think the top 4 AFC teams (San Diego, Baltimore, New England, and Indy) would all beat the Bears.

Indy certainly has had a tougher road to Miami in the playoffs. And Rex Grossman is capable of losing this game all by himself. I look for Manning to have his way with the Bears secondary and the Colts D to have their way with Grossman.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Manning has been stuck with a mediocre defense, much like Qui....ah nevermind. Seriously, my 2 favorite NFL teams are in the Super Bowl!!!

I agree w/ where you were about to go junkhead. Quinn's career has been eerily similar to Peyton's career after their respective college careers. Manning was the hands down Heisman favorite after returning for his senior year but lost to woodson (in a very controversial vote). Quinn was the same, although Smith proved to be the deserving winner based on the definition of the award this year: Best player on Best team. Manning could never win the big game (i.e., Florida). Quinn got a similar tag in '06 (OSU, Michigan, USC & LSU games). I give Quinn props for '05 regular season b/c when both losses occurred, Quinn's left the field for the final time after putting his team ahead. the defense didn't return the favor. Now I'm no Vol fan so I don't recall what Manning's supporting cast was, but I'm gonna go out on a limb & say he had a helluva alot better O-Line, run game & defense. Same w/ the Colts supporting cast. This may leave a glimmer of hope that Quinn can be as successful in the NFL as Manning if he can just half the support that Manning has been blessed with. Just my opinion & i'll always defend Quinn based on the fact that he had virtually no support when it came to a defense, O-line or running game (w/ the LSU 1st half the lone exception). Take him away fron ND this year and the Irish are lucky to be 8-4 IMO.

 

[Irishkid23]

The AFC Title game was the real Superbowl. In fact, I think the top 4 AFC teams (San Diego, Baltimore, New England, and Indy) would all beat the Bears.

Indy certainly has had a tougher road to Miami in the playoffs. And Rex Grossman is capable of losing this game all by himself. I look for Manning to have his way with the Bears secondary and the Colts D to have their way with Grossman.

I don't think Manning will have his way at all with the Bears. Urlacher, as you know, a LB, pretty much covered Reggie Bush the whole game, except for the illegal pick play. Don't forget about Briggs and the rest of the Bears D. They keep getting disrespected and I LIKE THAT. The Bears remember that the Colts kicked their butts a few years ago, it's already all over the radio in Chicago. If the Bears run all day long, add a short passing game, and eat up the clock, Manning isn't going to get his hands on the ball very much (ala CW/ND vs. USC 2005).

Second, I don't think Indy's D is even close to as good as the Bears D. The Bears will force turnovers by Manning with disguised coverages. Brees had 4,000+ yards passing and it did him no good, the same will happen to Manning. Manning had better get ready for a good old fashioned Ass-whooping Chicago Bears style. They are going to physically punish him and get him mentally out of the game.

Yes, Grossman could screw it up, BUT, he is a streak player. If he gets hot and the running game is working, the Colts can go home early. Remember, the Bears didn't let Grossman blow the game, their running game and D controlled all. A strong dose of Benson and Jones will tire out the Colts by the middle of 3rd quarter.

Bears 31 Colts 24

 

[Stalking_Eagle]

This is P-Doggz year

 

[solo]

I don't think Manning will have his way at all with the Bears. Urlacher, as you know, a LB, pretty much covered Reggie Bush the whole game, except for the illegal pick play. Don't forget about Briggs and the rest of the Bears D. They keep getting disrespected and I LIKE THAT. The Bears remember that the Colts kicked their butts a few years ago, it's already all over the radio in Chicago. If the Bears run all day long, add a short passing game, and eat up the clock, Manning isn't going to get his hands on the ball very much (ala CW/ND vs. USC 2005).

Second, I don't think Indy's D is even close to as good as the Bears D. The Bears will force turnovers by Manning with disguised coverages. Brees had 4,000+ yards passing and it did him no good, the same will happen to Manning. Manning had better get ready for a good old fashioned Ass-whooping Chicago Bears style. They are going to physically punish him and get him mentally out of the game.

Yes, Grossman could screw it up, BUT, he is a streak player. If he gets hot and the running game is working, the Colts can go home early. Remember, the Bears didn't let Grossman blow the game, their running game and D controlled all. A strong dose of Benson and Jones will tire out the Colts by the middle of 3rd quarter.

Bears 31 Colts 24

Your scenario is just as plausible as mine. I still think Indy will win (and I don't like either team, I'm a Steeler fan). I base much of this on:

1. The Bears haven't played as hard of a schedule either in the regular season or in the playoffs. Indy is more battle tested.

2. The Bears LIVE off of turnovers. When you make your living this way, you better get them. If Indy takes care of the ball, the Bears will struggle.

3. If the Bears think that they are just gonna jam the ball down Indy's throat, that would be a bad game plan in my opinion. Indy's run D was very weak in the regular season, but they have been able to stop the run in the playoffs. In the playoffs, New England is the only team to run the ball well on Indy but that was because they ran a balanced attack and were able to keep Indy guessing. If the Bears plan is to only pound the ball, it will be a long day. Grossman will need to loosen Indy's D up of they want to have a big day on the ground.

If the Good Grossman shows up, yes, this could be a very good game. If the Good Grossman shows up and the Bears win the turnover battle, the Bears win. But for some reason I still smell a blowout. I think Grossman is going to cave under the pressure of the big game. I think Manning is going to shine.

We'll see. You never know til they play the game.

 

[weisbankaccount]

oh geez, now the SOS argument with NFL games......

also, the "sloppy field" excuse holds no water either because:

1. Brees' first fumble that NO recovered was a blindside sack that wouldve been a fumble anywhere
2. The fumbled kickoff return was a strip - field doesnt apply here
3. Ogunleyes recovery was a blindised sack - doesnt apply
4. Colstons fumble was a strip - doesnt apply
5. Vashers int was a jump ball and he wrestled it away - doesnt apply
6. Reggie Bush had a 88 yard TD catch and pulled away from the Bears defenders - how'd that affect him?

It is what it was - Bears smacked them by 25 points

 

[solo]

oh geez, now the SOS argument with NFL games......

What...you don't think that facing a tougher schedule better prepares you for the tough games? I don't care if it's pee wee football or the NFL, having faced adversity in the heat battle makes a difference. Those teams that have played harder schedules are better prepared to win the tough, hard fought games.

It is also a known fact that the NFL gives the Superbowl Champ the hardest schedule the following year. Playoff teams also get harder shcedules the next year than non playoff teams. And if you were a bottom feeder this year, you get an easy schedule next year. This is one way the NFL evens the playing field and creates parity.

I would be interested in hearing your rationale for thinking that SOS should not be a factor?

 

[Irishkid23]

Go Bears!

 

[Irishkid23]

What...you don't think that facing a tougher schedule better prepares you for the tough games? I don't care if it's pee wee football or the NFL, having faced adversity in the heat battle makes a difference. Those teams that have played harder schedules are better prepared to win the tough, hard fought games.

It is also a known fact that the NFL gives the Superbowl Champ the hardest schedule the following year. Playoff teams also get harder shcedules the next year than non playoff teams. And if you were a bottom feeder this year, you get an easy schedule next year. This is one way the NFL evens the playing field and creates parity.

I would be interested in hearing your rationale for thinking that SOS should not be a factor?

Seattle wasn't a cake walk and New Orleans was supposed to be "The Team" to beat. The media is saying the same about the Colts as being the team to beat. The Bears played hard and won when they had to do so.

The only IF is if Good Rex or Bad Rex shows up.

 

[weisbankaccount]

I would be interested in hearing your rationale for thinking that SOS should not be a factor?

There is no strengh of schedule in the NFL - it is a myth of epic proportions. there is no SOS in MLB, NBA, and the NFL. Its a completly synthetic creation.

These are all pro athletes. This isnt 130 D1 teams where 30 teams are a factor and then there is a massive dropoff.

Case in point - the Bears are waxing the 49ers 41-0 at HALFTIME this year. You'd swear the 49ers shouldnt even be a pro team. The next week the 49ers beat Seattle in Seattle...........

Another thing - the NFL doesnt do the "4th place schedule....5th place schedule" thing anymore. Now you play non conference games in a totally controlled system that is shuffled every year at random.

Think about divisions in the NFL - no matter what, all divisions go .500 against eachother - it is plain math and structured so tightly that it is complete parody in so many ways.

Colleges are a different animal altogether. Nobody plays remotely close schedules, money isnt involved in any salaries whatsoever - the NFL has the exact salary cap for every team. In the NFL, last place teams can become 1st place teams with a 1st round bye in 1 season - ie: new Orleans.

Super Bowl teams can become non-playoff teams in 1 season ie: Pittsburgh.

There is no SOS in the NFL. Its a total myth.

 

[solo]

There is no strengh of schedule in the NFL - it is a myth of epic proportions. there is no SOS in MLB, NBA, and the NFL. Its a completly synthetic creation.

These are all pro athletes. This isnt 130 D1 teams where 30 teams are a factor and then there is a massive dropoff.

Case in point - the Bears are waxing the 49ers 41-0 at HALFTIME this year. You'd swear the 49ers shouldnt even be a pro team. The next week the 49ers beat Seattle in Seattle...........

Another thing - the NFL doesnt do the "4th place schedule....5th place schedule" thing anymore. Now you play non conference games in a totally controlled system that is shuffled every year at random.

Think about divisions in the NFL - no matter what, all divisions go .500 against eachother - it is plain math and structured so tightly that it is complete parody in so many ways.

Colleges are a different animal altogether. Nobody plays remotely close schedules, money isnt involved in any salaries whatsoever - the NFL has the exact salary cap for every team. In the NFL, last place teams can become 1st place teams with a 1st round bye in 1 season - ie: new Orleans.

Super Bowl teams can become non-playoff teams in 1 season ie: Pittsburgh.

There is no SOS in the NFL. Its a total myth.

This may be the most absurd thing I have read all year. There is no such thing as SOS in the NFL because all the teams are great.....NOT.

Yes, all the teams have great athletes. But all team are not created equally. So you are telling me that if:

Team A plays: New England, San Diego, Indy, NyJets, and Baltimore and

Team B plays: Oakland, Denver, Cleveland, Houston and Jax

That those are equivalent schedules?

I'm calling BS on this one. Yes, there is a lot parity in the league. But there is still a difference between the best teams and the worst teams.

 

[F-USC]

It'll take another 5 trips to the SB for Manning to win one. That's even if he can. The Bears are gonna win this one.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

There is no strengh of schedule in the NFL - it is a myth of epic proportions. there is no SOS in MLB, NBA, and the NFL. Its a completly synthetic creation.

These are all pro athletes. This isnt 130 D1 teams where 30 teams are a factor and then there is a massive dropoff.

Case in point - the Bears are waxing the 49ers 41-0 at HALFTIME this year. You'd swear the 49ers shouldnt even be a pro team. The next week the 49ers beat Seattle in Seattle...........

Another thing - the NFL doesnt do the "4th place schedule....5th place schedule" thing anymore. Now you play non conference games in a totally controlled system that is shuffled every year at random.

Think about divisions in the NFL - no matter what, all divisions go .500 against eachother - it is plain math and structured so tightly that it is complete parody in so many ways.

Colleges are a different animal altogether. Nobody plays remotely close schedules, money isnt involved in any salaries whatsoever - the NFL has the exact salary cap for every team. In the NFL, last place teams can become 1st place teams with a 1st round bye in 1 season - ie: new Orleans.

Super Bowl teams can become non-playoff teams in 1 season ie: Pittsburgh.

There is no SOS in the NFL. Its a total myth.

Great post & you even included a Freudian slip: "that is complete parody in so many ways". Amen to that.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Are the Bears really a TD dog already?

Are you fing kidding me? All week I heard about the great New Orleans Saints - who were going to roll into Chicago and just smack the Bears around.

Then after a 25 point ass stomping, the exact same team - Colts - except with a rush defense that makes the 'Aints look like the steel curtain, are favored by 7 points.

Reggie Bush has a little something to learn - you dont smack off to Urlacher like the cheating punk pussy that he is. Hey Reggie, do you realize that you were 1 on 1 all day with a MIDDLE LINEBACKER. Welcome to the NFL. If not for a 88 yard illegal pick play - Urlacher shut you down in single coverage.

The amazing part of that play is that Urlacher came from 30 yards behind the play and ended up the closest pursuer.

Agreed & how about that open field tackle of Bush by Urlacher for no or little gain. This ain't college Reg. Urlacher made Connor, Butkus & Singletary proud that day. As far as New Orleans, their a media darling for one reason & one reason only: Hurricane Katrina. Memo to the media: the Saints got smoked, so go to Sodom & Gommorah...er the Big Easy to help them build a better levy & shut the hell up.

 

[Junkhead]

Agreed & how about that open field tackle of Bush by Urlacher for no or little gain. This ain't college Reg. Urlacher made Connor, Butkus & Singletary proud that day. As far as New Orleans, their a media darling for one reason & one reason only: Hurricane Katrina. Memo to the media: the Saints got smoked, so go to Sodom & Gommorah...er the Big Easy to help them build a better levy & shut the hell up.

I'm no Reggie Bush fan (quite the opposite), but his dance and taunt were pathetic. He'll learn someday.....maybe.

 

[TexasDomer]

I think he learned the rest of the day. Showboating and then having your team tank in the second half should let him know that this is a team sport.

 

[Vince Young]

Peyton's new dilemma:

"Honey? Which shelf should I put these trophies on?"