Gonna Miss #10

[guff]

Unless ND is the 'home' team at their bowl game, this will be the last time Quinn wears the blue jersey. It will definitely be the last time he plays under the watchful eye of Touchdown Jesus.

I'm going to miss him. He is, as Weis says, all day tough. Both physically and mentally. This kid spent the first two years of his career on his ass. Pass protection wasn't important to the previous regime. And he got pounded. There were bunch of times he could have just mailed it in but he kept fighting.

He has one the toughest jobs in all of sports. If you don't think so, just consider that over the last two years he has comp. % around 65%, thrown 61 TD compared only 11 ints and QB rating north of 150 - all that and he still gets critized for not hitting recievers in stride.

When ND canned Willingham he hoped the replacement would be 'just like him' (or words to that effect). ND hired the anti-Willingham. A lot of prima donaa QB would have sulked and brooded their way through the next two years. Instead of turning his back to Weis, Quinn realized an opportunity and digested most of an NFL playbook in about 6 months. He then went on to set all sorts of passing record reinforcing Weis' genius tag.

Weis gets, and has earned, a lot of credit for ND's turn around. But without #10, I don't think Weis would have had nearly the sucess. He is the engine that drives this team. He will be missed. If you don't miss him now, you can bet your ass you'll miss next September 1st.

It is also pretty apparent that he is a good and decent person as well. Even minus the football skill, if my son grew up to be like him or my daughter married someone like him I'd consider myself a successful parent.

Gonna miss #10.

 

[Clotho]

He's a great QB, but I can't ignore that he was bad for two years until Weis showed up, at which point he got good, and then levelled off- making me think it's part talent, sure, but mostly Weis's coaching. He's not some Jay Cutler/Brad Smith "once in a generation at this school" kind of QB talent. He was a mediocre QB (at best) who got the break of a lifetime, IMO, and made the most of it. I expect Clausen (or DJ, or Frazer, or Sharpley) to pick things almost right up where Quinn left them. By his second season starting, whoever the starter is should be putting up numbers just like Brady put up last year.

As for Brady as a person, I've heard good and bad.

 

[Óglaigh_na_hÉireann]

Well, this is going to be a hard game to take. There are just so many likable seniors and Brady is just one of many to choose from.

 

[lattedatte]

Amen, I just wish he could have been under CW's tutelage since he was a freshman....

 

[Freeman Ara]

He's a great QB, but I can't ignore that he was bad for two years until Weis showed up, at which point he got good, and then levelled off- making me think it's part talent, sure, but mostly Weis's coaching. He's not some Jay Cutler/Brad Smith "once in a generation at this school" kind of QB talent. He was a mediocre QB (at best) who got the break of a lifetime, IMO, and made the most of it. I expect Clausen (or DJ, or Frazer, or Sharpley) to pick things almost right up where Quinn left them. By his second season starting, whoever the starter is should be putting up numbers just like Brady put up last year.

As for Brady as a person, I've heard good and bad.

I don't know if I would say BQ was bad his first two years given the talent around him and the coaching staff he was being coached by. He was a top 10 recruit at his position coming out of HS and gets thrown into the fire as a true frosh. Very few freshman are major contributors at the QB position i.e. Mitch Mustain. If I remember correctly in his first game against Purdue he was sacked or knocked down in the neighborhood of 25 times. Plus, its not like he had a whole lot of talent around him to work with.Also its not easy to be a succesful QB when the entire gameplan under Willingham was, hand off to Grant, hand off to Grant, pass on the third down...punt on fourth. No one is going to show their true abilities when the play calling is that predictable. Can't even comprehend the fact that you are comparing him to Brad Smith. And as far as him catching a break when Weis was hired, thats true. But you have to have the talent and the smarts to take the next step, which he did. Weis came in and saw that he had a great talent in the making and developed that, which is what good coaches do, they get the most out of the talent they have to work with. And the system didn't turn BQ into probably the best QB in CFB. Thats talent, hard work, and dedication in the most stressful position in all of college sports. You starting talking about products of a system I start thinking about Joey Harrington and Aaron Rogers, average talents that put up impressive numbers in a QB friendly system. As far as BQ off the field, everything I have heard has been positive so how can you say anything derogatory.

 

[Clotho]

He had as much talent around him last year as he had his first two years. He had a starting NFL running back on the team his freshman year.

I'm not comparing him to Brad Smith. Read more carefully. I'm saying that Brad Smith and Jay Cutler were "once in a generation" talents at their respective schools, as far as QB talent goes. Both of those schools wasted those guys. For ND, especially with Weis at the helm, we'll miss Brady, but there shouldn't be a dropoff for more than a year, if that.

As for being a product of the system or not, how can you say he isn't? We haven't seen him in the NFL yet. I think he'll be fine there, but you can't say for sure. Stovall seems to have been a product of the system. He wasn't good before Weis showed up, he had his year, got drafted high, and is now a non-factor for Tampa. As for Brady, we'll see. I think he has all the tools, but I don't think it's the same with Weis QBs as with Tedford QBs. Tedford has a system that makes QBs look good- Weis makes QBs good. So he's the product of a coach, just as Tom Brady was.

As for off the field, I've heard from people who've met him that he's full of himself and a dick.

 

[dankus]

As for off the field, I've heard from people who've met him that he's full of himself and a dick.

Funny, I've heard the opposite.

 

[Specnatz]

Yes he had talent, but it was not used. stovall is a non-factor in Tampa because sucks. They have a QB that was drafted in the 7th round and almost no running game. Maybe, just maybe you have someone who can atcually throw you the ball, you might be productive. Jerry Rice would be Alvin harper light with Tampa's offense.

You say product of the sytem, well it is a pro style system and that will help his transition to the next level, but most QBs struggle their first yearin the NFL. Aikman did not do anything until he had the help around him.

Univiversity of Houston also created QBs that were product of the sytem, Andrea Ware and David klingler, but they were not running pro style sets, just like Tedford. Those are stat creating sytems not pro sets, like what is being run at ND now.

 

[Óglaigh_na_hÉireann]

Funny, I've heard the opposite.

Yep, same here. One of my better friends trained with him when Brady was a Senior in high school.. his family is really close to the Quinns, too, and he's got only good things to say about him.

Chances are, the people who find him arrogant are the ones who have only met him for 2 seconds and said "hey, you're Brady Quinn!" In which case, what can he do other than brush them off? One of his responses to that very question was "yeah, that's what they tell me." That sounds arrogant, but there really isn't an alternative in situations like that. You can't get to know everyone.

 

[Clotho]

I didn't say he was the product of a system I said he was the product of a coach. Which means it'll likely stick, which is why I'd draft him first and not worry about an Aaron Rodgers or Akili Smith or Andre Ware or Ryan Leaf problem.

 

[Clotho]

Although in fairness, we don't know if Aaron Rodgers sucks yet or not. We may never see that kid play in GB, and it has nothing to do with how good or bad he is.

 

[Clotho]

Yep, same here. One of my better friends trained with him when Brady was a Senior in high school.. his family is really close to the Quinns, too, and he's got only good things to say about him.

Chances are, the people who find him arrogant are the ones who have only met him for 2 seconds and said "hey, you're Brady Quinn!" In which case, what can he do other than brush them off? One of his responses to that very question was "yeah, that's what they tell me." That sounds arrogant, but there really isn't an alternative in situations like that. You can't get to know everyone.

Really? I think, chances are someone who meets him for 3 seconds is going to come away with a good impression of him. There's no way to know. You want him to be nice and a great guy because he's the QB of your favorite team. Me, I don't care either way. He's not my buddy he's a QB for a team I like. If he's a dick, whatever. And I heard he was a dick. And not from someone who just met him in passing, either.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Unless ND is the 'home' team at their bowl game, this will be the last time Quinn wears the blue jersey. It will definitely be the last time he plays under the watchful eye of Touchdown Jesus.

I'm going to miss him. He is, as Weis says, all day tough. Both physically and mentally. This kid spent the first two years of his career on his ass. Pass protection wasn't important to the previous regime. And he got pounded. There were bunch of times he could have just mailed it in but he kept fighting.

I don't know where to start, but man you covered a lot of points that I so agree with. What I quoted above really talk to him as a player.

Honestly, when was the last time you saw a QB play for 4 years without getting hurt??? And BQ has been brutalized at times. He is tough, no prima donna, plays the game the way it should be played...etc.

This is the end of an era. I am really going to be sorry to see him go.

I can say that I am happy for him though...he gave his all and Weis has set him up for as much success as he can achieve. He has the tools and the training...I wish him the best in the future.

Damn...nearly 4 full years... It's going to be weird with him gone.

My 3 year old knows 3 names on the team (I spelled them the way she says them):
Bra-dee QuINN! (the Jersey I wear...and she always yells the name when she hears it...lol)
Dare-yus Walker (the Jersey she wears)
Jeff Samar-ja (she also calls him "funny hair" cause of the way his hair stuck out last year)

But Quinn...what a good kid...he will be missed by all.

 

[Irishman10]

Definitely going to miss him. It's been great watching him these 4 years and I look forward to seeing im in the NFL. Why some people had to bring negativity into the thread is beyond me. Even if Quinn isnt a once in a decade QB, which could be debatable, he has played a huge part in returning this team to respectability.

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

If I was the starting QB for Notre Dame....id be a dick. And id probably tell people that, too. I think id even make business cards.

 

[maison bleu]

Unless ND is the 'home' team at their bowl game, this will be the last time Quinn wears the blue jersey. It will definitely be the last time he plays under the watchful eye of Touchdown Jesus.

I'm going to miss him. He is, as Weis says, all day tough. Both physically and mentally. This kid spent the first two years of his career on his ass. Pass protection wasn't important to the previous regime. And he got pounded. There were bunch of times he could have just mailed it in but he kept fighting.

You're right--he's great and he's going to be missed.

 

[southbend62]

I've been avoiding the reality of this Army game being the last game for the seniors...especially Brady Quinn. I just want to enjoy the talent and utter joy he brings to this team and to the game of football. Does it really matter if he was a dick or not--what matters is that he represents Notre Dame in the best possible light and he's given us --with the help of CW--a great year of college football.

Being one of the few females on this site--can we talk about his arms for just a second? MY GOD does he have the most amazing guns! I could go on for days about his arms...but I won't. I could move on to his thighs...but I won't go there either. He's perhaps the most physically perfect male on the planet and his dedication to working out should be acknowledged.

Go Brady--have a spectacular game against Army!

 

[irish4ever]

Funny, I've heard the opposite.

Me too! Actually it was from people around the university itself.

 

[jiggafini19]

Brady Quinn's first two years are not an indictment on him. He was a true freshman and sophomore those seasons.

We was also in the West Crap offense.

 

[scooper]

One myth in this thread: That BQ was a top 10 QB out of high school. He was scout's 14th rated QB. He was Rivals 10th rated pro style QB, but they distinguish between pro style and dual-threat. So chances are, they had a couple dual threat guys ranked higher overall.

That should make us appreciate him even more. He has outplayed everybody who was expected to outperform him.

Clotho has a good point. With the system in place, and bringing in constant talent at the position, we should start to get used to this kind of QB play. But that doesn't take away from what BQ has done here. He has definately raised the bar for QB play at ND.

For reference, BQ came in rated lower than three of the four QB's on next year's roster. And Sharpley was within a couple spots of him.

I've also heard good things about his character and attitude, and this from bucknut diehards.

 

[grantland]

Charlie says he cannot imagine that there would be a player more important to his team than Brady. Charlie is probably a pretty good judge. Charlie is going to miss him bad.

So will I.

And if he doesn't win the Heisman, then the system owes us two (Brady and Rocket).

 

[scooper]

And if he doesn't win the Heisman, then the system owes us two (Brady and Rocket).

Amen. Reps for that comment.

 

[jiggafini19]

He's not an attention whore like Matt Leinart and he never took any money from a booster like Troy Smith did.

Heisman or not, I'll put Quinn ahead of those two guys on the character list AND he'll have more success in the NFL than both of them combined.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

Definitely going to miss him. It's been great watching him these 4 years and I look forward to seeing im in the NFL. Why some people had to bring negativity into the thread is beyond me. Even if Quinn isnt a once in a decade QB, which could be debatable, he has played a huge part in returning this team to respectability.

I can't agree more. There is a time for "analysis" and "objectivity" and a time to just express thanks for the hard work and good performance someone has given the team. This thread was clearly to honor #10, not dissect his career.

Seeing as though BQ has set virtually every QB record at ND despite having 2 so-called lackluster seasons and engineering some of the greatest moments of ND football lore(last drive vs. USC last year, MSU comeback this year, game winning pass against UCLA this year), I'd say yes, in a sense, he is a once in a lifetime quarterback. We never appreciate the truly great ones enough until they have been gone awhile.

I'll appreciate #10 now. Thank you Brady Quinn.

 

[southbend62]

He's not an attention whore like Matt Leinart and he never took any money from a booster like Troy Smith did.

Heisman or not, I'll put Quinn ahead of those two guys on the character list AND he'll have more success in the NFL than both of them combined.

Amen to that. Matt Leinart is low class and Troy Smith is average--his offensive line is making him a Heisman candidate. Brady deserves the Heisman.

 

[southbend62]

And if he doesn't win the Heisman, then the system owes us two (Brady and Rocket).

They owe us a Heisman for Jerome Bettis too

 

[HoffVir]

He's not an attention whore like Matt Leinart and he never took any money from a booster like Troy Smith did.

Heisman or not, I'll put Quinn ahead of those two guys on the character list AND he'll have more success in the NFL than both of them combined.

I don't remember Brady getting an ND women's bball player preggers either.

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

Ndukwe's birthday should become a National Holiday.

 

[UNTITLEDPROJECT]

I can't agree more. There is a time for "analysis" and "objectivity" and a time to just express thanks for the hard work and good performance someone has given the team. This thread was clearly to honor #10, not dissect his career.

Seeing as though BQ has set virtually every QB record at ND despite having 2 so-called lackluster seasons and engineering some of the greatest moments of ND football lore(last drive vs. USC last year, MSU comeback this year, game winning pass against UCLA this year), I'd say yes, in a sense, he is a once in a lifetime quarterback. We never appreciate the truly great ones enough until they have been gone awhile.

I'll appreciate #10 now. Thank you Brady Quinn.

You forgot that lil ole' game that SAVED our BCS hopes vs. Stanford.

 

[jiggafini19]

They owe us a Heisman for Jerome Bettis too

What year? 1992 Reggie Brooks finished fifth to Gino Toretta. That was the final season Bettis played.

I don't recall Bettis even placing in a vote for the Heisman.