You know, I'm really just disgusted....

[NDgettysburg]

I knew the polls were gonna play out the way they did, so that's not the big deal. What's up my nose at the moment are the sportswriters and talking heads. They can't mention the ND/Navy game without commenting how much of a cupcake Navy was yet they talk about West Virginia without a single mention of their weak-ass schedule. It's a friggin' travesty that this team can be 3rd in the country having played NO ONE.

As of today, their opponents are a combined 23-35. Only 1 opponent has a winning record (Maryland, 6-2). Somehow their creampuffs warrant 3rd in the country and a ball-washing from every college football analyst while ND playing a Navy gets nothing but criticism. Ah but it doesn't stop there....what piece on ND would be complete without also mentioning they have 3 more creampuffs in NC, AF & Army lined up? WVU to this point has played nothing but creampuffs and been given a glowing #3 to show for it. Ungoddamnbelievable.

Oddly enough, when the poison pen writers scribble their birdcage liner worthy columns about the Navy game, they don't seem to mention how Weis pulled the starters early in favor of running up the score any further.

 

[lattedatte]

Rolaids, Tums or vodka work well..

But its like our fearless leader Holtz said Saturday night, WVUs schedule was validated with last yrs win in Atlanta over Ga. Not my words. But it either gets another validation on Thursday or they lose and everyone on this board can start bitching about Louisville.

 

[Clotho]

Never mind that that Georgia team has proven this year they're completely mediocre.

 

[marv81s]

Didn't someone on this board point to the fact that bowl games from last year don't go into this years rankings, yet a majority point to this bowl game from last year as validation that WV's ranking is legit. Besides last years sugar bowl game, who else has WV played to validate being ranked #3? Any team ranked in the top 50? or even one ranked in the top 25. Any team with a D ranked in the top 25 or top 50? I guarantee that whoever they play this year in a bowl game, that opponent won't come out flat and underestimate them the way Georgia did.

 

[mirertobrooks]

I'm predicting it will all be over for WV on Thursday vs Louisville. Louisville has at least beaten Miami. Should be a tough game for WV in Kentucky. But then we'll get to hear about how great Louisville is. The biggest insult will be when WV loses, they won't fall below the Irish.

 

[tedwick]

Well, Miami ain't so great this year either. They're actually pretty terrible. Duke gave them a game. However, even if WV loses, they move into texas' spot at number 4. ugh.

 

[lattedatte]

Didn't someone on this board point to the fact that bowl games from last year don't go into this years rankings, yet a majority point to this bowl game from last year as validation that WV's ranking is legit. Besides last years sugar bowl game, who else has WV played to validate being ranked #3? Any team ranked in the top 50? or even one ranked in the top 25. Any team with a D ranked in the top 25 or top 50? I guarantee that whoever they play this year in a bowl game, that opponent won't come out flat and underestimate them the way Georgia did.

I didn't say, Lou Holtz said it.

And everybody on this board can go f themselves about the underestimating bullshit. That sugar bowl was played in Ga. with 85% of the crowd pro Bulldogs. It was the f'n SUGAR BOWL and it was crazy in that place.

I guess we underestimated OSU last year huh... or because it was ND I guess OSU was just more talented.

WVU has beaten everyone the way they should, handily. Bottom line since White and Slaton have started they are undefeated which includes wins vs. Louisville, Pitt, Georgia, Maryland. That's just fine with me. This Thursday will determine everything, or will it, maybe louisville isn't that good or maybe they'll underestimate WVU even though it's potentially for the national championship.

You know what I'm through with the football board, I'm not leaving the site becuase I love the recruiting stuff that SVO, SCOOPS, JIGGS and CO does. It is way to aggrevating to chat with irrational people.

 

[marv81s]

Irrational? Dude, you have to calm down. I am just saying WV snuck up on people last year that is all. You don't think Georgia came into that just thinking they were going to walk all over them. A large majority of people thought that was going to be a cake walk for Georgia and they came out the same way ND came out in the Michigan game, way too laxed and WV took advantage of it and before Georgia knew it, they were down big.

Fiesta Bowl was a different story, we were just overmatched. In my opinion.

 

[NDgettysburg]

WVU has beaten everyone the way they should, handily.

which ain't saying much when your competition can't even manage a .500 record. Or does blowing out a poor opponent carry that much weight with you?

 

[irishfan]

Didn't someone on this board point to the fact that bowl games from last year don't go into this years rankings, yet a majority point to this bowl game from last year as validation that WV's ranking is legit. Besides last years sugar bowl game, who else has WV played to validate being ranked #3? Any team ranked in the top 50? or even one ranked in the top 25. Any team with a D ranked in the top 25 or top 50? I guarantee that whoever they play this year in a bowl game, that opponent won't come out flat and underestimate them the way Georgia did.

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14331

I argued that the bowls games from last year have a hige impact on the preseason rankings because it is the last impression a team makes. Also in the case of West Virginia who has played nobody so far, and has basically stayed at the same spot in the Top 25, then those preseason rankings are having a huge impact on the rankings right now.

 

[marv81s]

my bad, I got it reversed, sorry irishfan.

 

[SIUIrish]

West Virgina's schedule is terrible. Oppenents combined record of 23-35 (17-33 if you take away Maryland at 6-2). That's a .39 winning percentage! IF they beat Louisville, this is all mute. But at this point in the season, they are hanging their hat on a victory over Maryland (not exactly a Texas or Notre Dame that OSU and UM have beaten). There is no way they should play for any championship.

 

[irishfan]

my bad, I got it reversed, sorry irishfan.

well some ppl were arguing against that so you were right

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I didn't say, Lou Holtz said it.

And everybody on this board can go f themselves about the underestimating bullshit. That sugar bowl was played in Ga. with 85% of the crowd pro Bulldogs. It was the f'n SUGAR BOWL and it was crazy in that place.

I guess we underestimated OSU last year huh... or because it was ND I guess OSU was just more talented.

WVU has beaten everyone the way they should, handily. Bottom line since White and Slaton have started they are undefeated which includes wins vs. Louisville, Pitt, Georgia, Maryland. That's just fine with me. This Thursday will determine everything, or will it, maybe louisville isn't that good or maybe they'll underestimate WVU even though it's potentially for the national championship.

You know what I'm through with the football board, I'm not leaving the site becuase I love the recruiting stuff that SVO, SCOOPS, JIGGS and CO does. It is way to aggrevating to chat with irrational people.

Not to pick at ya, but the Sugar Bowl isn't played in Georgia...85% this or that...
The Sugar Bowl is played in Louisiana. In the SuperDome.

 

[tommy]

but it was played in georgia last year because of katrina

 

[tedwick]

I didn't say, Lou Holtz said it.

And everybody on this board can go f themselves about the underestimating bullshit. That sugar bowl was played in Ga. with 85% of the crowd pro Bulldogs. It was the f'n SUGAR BOWL and it was crazy in that place.

I guess we underestimated OSU last year huh... or because it was ND I guess OSU was just more talented.

WVU has beaten everyone the way they should, handily. Bottom line since White and Slaton have started they are undefeated which includes wins vs. Louisville, Pitt, Georgia, Maryland. That's just fine with me. This Thursday will determine everything, or will it, maybe louisville isn't that good or maybe they'll underestimate WVU even though it's potentially for the national championship.

You know what I'm through with the football board, I'm not leaving the site becuase I love the recruiting stuff that SVO, SCOOPS, JIGGS and CO does. It is way to aggrevating to chat with irrational people.

Wow. Get angry...

Look. WVA has played a creampuff schedule. Their only win of note this year has been MD. Maryland is NOT THAT GOOD. There's a reason WVA's strength of schedule this year is 92nd (!?) out of 118. When they stop scheduling Middle Tennessee State and William and Mary as non-conference games, maybe we'll talk. (Oh, and re: last year's schedule talk... do you remember how bad Pitt was last year? They lost to OHIO. Not Ohio State. OHIO. And yes, they beat Georgia. Yes, it was impressive. Oregon State beat USC last week. That's why they play the game. That doesn't mean that Oregon State is an amazing team. When WVA starts beating quality opponents on a regular basis, then i'll be a believer. But not until then.)

The same goes for Louisville. At least they had Miami on the slate, but Miami SUCKS this year. Oh, and they had Middle Tennessee State University on the slate too. And Temple. They of "just broke a 20 game losing streak."

I'm sorry, but if WVA or Louisville get put in the championship game, it will be because of a scheduling anomaly, not because they deserved it. Basically, the way the season was scheduled, WVA or Louisville was going to be undefeated, and the one that is better than the other could have punched their BCS ticket before the season even started.

 

[Vince Young]

HERE is why last year's Sugar Bowl is relevant.

Last year, everyone was complaining about how weak West Virginia's schedule was. Then they WAXED Georgia.

This year, everyone is complaining about how weak West Virginia's schedule is.

Deja vu, anyone?

 

[maison bleu]

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14331

I argued that the bowls games from last year have a hige impact on the preseason rankings because it is the last impression a team makes. Also in the case of West Virginia who has played nobody so far, and has basically stayed at the same spot in the Top 25, then those preseason rankings are having a huge impact on the rankings right now.

I think it's hard to generalize about how much last year's bowl effected this year's rankings. On the one hand, WV's win in the SB helped them a lot. But ND's misadventure against o$u seems not to have mattered much, what with the Irish a preseason #2.

 

[jiggafini19]

It is way to aggrevating to chat with irrational people.

You know, for about the last 2 weeks I've been thinking this to myself. I have quit on sports radio, the newspaper and just about all media outlets entirely. Better for it. I enjoy the Bears and Notre Dame now more than ever.

Nothing but a lot of talk and a badge.

This shit with schedules and the polls is the most annoying of all. The schedules are made too far in advance and it is all timing that determines how tough your schedule is when you actually play it.

College football is very cyclical. Look how good SC was and how bad the WAC 10 was during their dominance. Now, SC is back to Earth a bit and the conference has more balance.

Last year, scUM, Tennessee and Purdue all failed ND as opponents for schedule strength. This year scUM and UT are top ranked and Purdue could sneak into a bowl again. UT is off the schedule.

I don't understand was is wrong with another victory in which Notre Dame shut out their opponent in the second half. I could give a frog's fat ass that it was Navy. Notre Dame is winning right now. You guys can't wait to see all of these polls come out so you can complain about them. I'm convinced.

My Poll is simple: 7-1

 

[irishtexan]

You know what pisses me off? I am sick and tired of these f*ckface "analysts" saying ND has a weak schedule and ND is overrated but when ANY TEAM IN AMERICA beats ND is considered a quality win for them. What is that B.S. all about? I am so sick of all the double standards on college football. We really need a playoff system.

 

[jerseyborn1971]

I'm with jigga. 7-1. It doesn't matter what opinions of ND are because the ND lovers will rationalize anything and the ND haters witll rationalize anything. It's no use arguing. Just watch the games and smile as the Irish win again, and again, and again.

 

[irish24notredame]

I hope Louisville kicks WVU asses right out of Kentucky.