Recuiting Standings

[jiggafini19]

Lemming really doesn't do us any favors.

Depends on who you talk to. Some say he's a positive influence and the reason TW did so poorly was because he distanced himself from Lemming. Weis has supposedly embraced Lemming and the publicity he brings to ND.

 

[weisfaninmass]

Michigan has lost to ND lately, but the world doesn't revolve around ND. ND has not had a winning record for two consective years since 1997-1998. Last five years, they are 34-26 while Michigan is 44-18.

McNeil is good, but Eugene is better. We don't hope for intangibles, we get the very best recievers. Shilling was good, but so is LB Graham (some say he's the #1 overall recruit this year), OL Boren, DT Slocum etc... Just wait until competant coordinators are brought in to coach these athletes. Until then, talk is cheap. We all heard the boundless hopes of the ND faithful after Davie and Willingham. It's same old same old until ND actually manages to have a winning record in two consecutive seasons. I know it's tough.

So VV, you raise a great point we all know too well about the lack of back to back years of success. No writing or justifying can change that. Only results on the field in 2006 will do that.

So I ask you the question since you brought up Davie and Willingham. Do you think that the Irish will put a losing season together this year under Weis? Seriously? Do you put Weis into the same class as D&W? Or are you one of the millions of UM fans who are looking at LLLLLLLLoyd Carr and worried saying "he and his staff don't measure up to today tops programs. Look at what Carroll did at SC and what Weis is doing at ND?" My honest guess is that you are one of the million UM fans who are scared sh&tless about the momentum that Weis has, the lack of direction at UM right now with LLLLLLLoyd and you are just getting your jabs in while you can (which I don't blame you for doing).

 

[jiggafini19]

I see six 3-star recruits in ND's group that could easily have four and probably should.

Michigan doesn't scare me at all because they play hard when they feel like it. Iowa and Ohio State play hard every Saturday. Michigan kids think they can play hard when they feel like it. And THAT comes from the top. They need someone in there that can carve those candy ass talents back into stone.

 

[jiggafini19]

Rivals, As of 02/01 at 7 AM CST

1 Florida 27 2,901
2 Southern Cal 21 2,883
3 Florida State 25 2,355
4 Texas 25 2,283
5 Penn State 24 2,241
6 LSU 25 2,234
7 Notre Dame 27 2,190
8 Georgia 25 2,115
9 Ohio State 20 2,000
10 Auburn 22 1,966
11 Alabama 21 1,918
12 Oklahoma 26 1,889
13 Michigan 18 1,828
14 Ole Miss 28 1,744
15 Miami-FL 20 1,547
16 UCLA 22 1,544
17 Arizona 25 1,530
18 California 20 1,512
19 Clemson 19 1,468
20 Nebraska 23 1,452
21 Pittsburgh 24 1,401
22 Tennessee 23 1,374
23 Oklahoma State 27 1,257
24 Texas A&M 22 1,203
25 Texas Tech 34 1,194

 

[jiggafini19]

I've got $20 that says ND is out of the top 10 by the end of the day.

 

[jiggafini19]

Scout:

1. Florida 27 SEC 2766
2. USC 20 Pac-10 2635
3. Texas 25 Big 12 2577 .
4. Notre Dame 28 I-A Ind 2341
5. Georgia 25 SEC 2311
6. Penn State 24 Big Ten 2139
7. LSU 23 SEC 1996
8. Pittsburgh 24 Big East 1845
9. Auburn 23 SEC 1837
10. Ohio State 20 Big Ten 1810
11. Michigan 18 Big Ten 1796
12. Mississippi 29 SEC 1769
13. Oklahoma 26 Big 12 1760
14. Oklahoma State 28 Big 12 1672
15. Miami (Fl) 20 ACC 1654
16. Arizona 25 Pac-10 1569
17. Texas Tech 32 Big 12 1512
18. UCLA 22 Pac-10 1475
19. Texas A&M 20 Big 12 1400
20. Florida State 21 ACC 1362
21. Alabama 21 SEC 1335
22. California 20 Pac-10 1322
23. Tennessee 21 SEC 1316
24. Clemson 19 ACC 1237
25. North Carolina 27 ACC 1190

 

[jiggafini19]

I've got $20 that says ND is out of the top 10 by the end of the day.

They ended up 8th on Rivals, 5th on Scout.

A great class. Needs to be followed up with another top ten finish in one year.

USC's abundance of talent is very alarming. They are a force.