Wojciechowski says ND to BCS

[Irish YJ]

Projecting what the second half of the season will bring - ESPN

I for one think he is smoking crack, but I'd love to see it.

Interesting comments on potential coaching moves.

Is Gene an ND fan? I thought he went to UT for some reason.

 

[KPENN]

I don't see how he's smoking crack. ND wins out and they will be in a BCS game

 

[GATTACA!]

I like how he says we will sneak into a BCS bowl game, then ignores us for the rest of the article except the disappointment category.

 

[irishfan]

Well, we're 3 point favorites this week, and then should be favored by 10+ in the next four games. We essentially just have to pull one upset to "sneak in."

 

[stlnd01]

It would probably help us if Stanford wins out until our game and Arizona State and MSU win a bunch (our SOS isn't exactly looking killer right now). But, yeah, we could certainly sneak into the BCS.

 

[Rudy89]

truth be told id rather go to a mid-level bowl game and win then go to a BCS game and get prison-raped like we have every other time we have gone to the BCS. But more importantly then that we gotta beat the condoms this week....hehehehe beat the condoms

 

[RyCo1983]

This team hasn't shown that it's BCS caliber...
If we sneak into one...great...I'll be overjoyed!
But...I don't see it happening.

 

[woolybug25]

I like how he says we will sneak into a BCS bowl game, then ignores us for the rest of the article except the disappointment category.

The entire last segment of the article is an ode to the '88 Catholics v Convicts game?

 

[BGIF]

I like how he says we will sneak into a BCS bowl game, then ignores us for the rest of the article except the disappointment category.

I noticed how he made no mention of Greg Bryant. Just another one of that vast media cabal protecting Kelly from enquiring minds.

 

[GATTACA!]

The entire last segment of the article is an ode to the '88 Catholics v Convicts game?

I remembered tht as i was posting, just hoped no one would call me on it lol.

 

[Buster Bluth]

It would probably help us if Stanford wins out until our game and Arizona State and MSU win a bunch (our SOS isn't exactly looking killer right now).

Ranked #15. What do you consider good?

 

[stlnd01]

Ranked #15. What do you consider good?

It's fine right now. But that #15 is headed down. Aside from Stanford I don't see any opponents left right now who are going to impress anyone. If we go 10-2 they might well wind up the only ranked team we beat. So it'd be nice if they were ranked highly.

 

[Irish YJ]

I don't see how he's smoking crack. ND wins out and they will be in a BCS game

I don't see us beating Stanford, and if we did I don't see us moving far enough up in the polls to take a spot. Our SOS will likely continue to slide and there are too many other teams trending ahead of us that project as 1 loss or undefeated. As others have said, I'd also prefer a mid level bowl that's winnable.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I think you guys might be over estimating how much the schedule will fall. It's not like conference schedules are loaded, most of those are cake walks too outside of a premier team or two.

Anyway, I'd prefer to go to the Pinstripe bowl and **** up Rutgers 35-10.

 

[rtrn2glory]

wojo might be a closet ND fan.

 

[stlnd01]

I think you guys might be over estimating how much the schedule will fall. It's not like conference schedules are loaded, most of those are cake walks too outside of a premier team or two.

Anyway, I'd prefer to go to the Pinstripe bowl and **** up Rutgers 35-10.

You may be right. The numbers are pretty tough to crunch at this point. But unless we start blowing teams out in the second half of the season, the eyeball test won't help us either. We've got obvious flaws and our best win would be over a Stanford team that could easily land with three losses, maybe more. Perhaps ASU finishes strong, who knows. But we'd be in solely because we're Notre Dame.

Personally I'm torn as to whether it's better to go to the BCS and lose or win big in some crap bowl. I lean towards BCS b/c I still do think we're capable of beating most teams if we play well. And our crap bowl options are really crap. If we finish 9-3 we belong in something like the Champs Bowl - not BCS but pretty good - but that can't happen this year. Better bowl options are the best thing about the ACC deal, IMO.

 

[tko]

This guy is on drugs. Maybe if ND comes out with a passion and desire to punch USC in the mouth i'll buy into this scenario, otherwise they lose one maybe two more games.

 

[Irishfan33]

Personally i dont want to this team go to a big bowl game...
It will just be a set up to see our team get stomped by the big boys....

Go to a game were we can look good and of course win so we can end the year on a good note and get ready for next season when we should have our QB back (please God)...

 

[Irishbounty28]

Funny thing is I believe our team has the "talent" to beat anyone on our schedule, and quite a few that will be BCS bowl bound.

If we win out the rest of the year, there is no reason our team isn't good enough to play in a big bowl. Whether our team shows up in that scenario is a different story. The thing about college football is most teams are actually quite even, no matter the recruiting rankings or preseason crap.

Players get rated out of high school as kids, and some grow in to men faster than others, thus the reason may rankings could differentiate from high school to college.

If we are going off the product on the field I would agree that right now we do not seem to sniff BCS caliber. If we can somehow win out then I think we will deserve it, and should be able to compete.

 

[NDWorld247]

One of the most frustrating (or entertaining, depending how you look at it) aspects of the bowl system is you never know what team will show up 3-4 weeks (sometimes more) after their last game. It's so unpredictable. Some teams look better (Alabama) while others look worse (Notre Dame).

For that reason, we should always want to reach the highest bowl possible. As Irishbounty said, talent isn't an issue. We can play with anyone in the country on any given day. We could reach the Sugar Bowl and beat down a SEC team that everyone is scared of right now (ala Louisville last year). We could also go to the Pinstripe Bowl and run into a buzz saw in a Rutgers team that plays their best game of the season. Going to a lesser bowl does not guarantee victory in the same way going to a BCS does not guarantee an embarrassing defeat as many Irish fans are predicting.

Bottom line, performance through the first six weeks of the season is a very poor indicator of how a team will perform after New Years, and, frankly, performance through the regular season is also often a poor indicator of how a team will play in a bowl game.

And, honestly, hearing ND fans say they'd rather go to a lesser bowl and look good because they are scared to get beat in a BCS bowl is downright embarrassing. You should be ashamed of yourself for having this defeatist attitude.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Funny thing is I believe our team has the "talent" to beat anyone on our schedule, and quite a few that will be BCS bowl bound.

If we win out the rest of the year, there is no reason our team isn't good enough to play in a big bowl. Whether our team shows up in that scenario is a different story. The thing about college football is most teams are actually quite even, no matter the recruiting rankings or preseason crap.

Players get rated out of high school as kids, and some grow in to men faster than others, thus the reason may rankings could differentiate from high school to college.

If we are going off the product on the field I would agree that right now we do not seem to sniff BCS caliber. If we can somehow win out then I think we will deserve it, and should be able to compete.

Take a look at the teams we'd likely face in a BCS bowl. ND doesn't match-up well against most of them.

Personally i dont want to this team go to a big bowl game...
It will just be a set up to see our team get stomped by the big boys....

Go to a game were we can look good and of course win so we can end the year on a good note and get ready for next season when we should have our QB back (please God)...

This is where I'm at, too. Momentum is so important in CFB. Ending the season at 9-3 and then getting our 10th win against a manageable post-season opponent is the best we can realistically hope for heading into the 2014 off-season.

 

[IrishLax]

The only teams I'd like to play in a BCS game are Fresno State, Northern Illinois, Louisville, and any Big 12 team besides Baylor. And maybe a Big Ten team not named Ohio State. All of those teams are beatable.

Upper echelon ACC/SEC/PAC12? No thanks. Probably a big loss. But it's a probably a moot point as a BCS run is quite unlikely.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

We are going to lose to Stanford so it really doesn't matter about potential BCS match-ups.

 

[NDdomer2]

only thing that scares me about osu is braxton. everything else is average.

 

[military_irish]

I don't know why anyone would not want ND to go to a BCS bowl game.

It's like going to school to become a doctor, finally get your doctorate, and are in the process of becoming a doctor just to say "well it looks like it will be hard being a doctor, I will just work at McDonalds because it is something I know I will be good at".

I think playing in a BCS bowl is more beneficial win or lose than not playing in one.

 

[Irishfan33]

One of the most frustrating (or entertaining, depending how you look at it) aspects of the bowl system is you never know what team will show up 3-4 weeks (sometimes more) after their last game. It's so unpredictable. Some teams look better (Alabama) while others look worse (Notre Dame).

For that reason, we should always want to reach the highest bowl possible. As Irishbounty said, talent isn't an issue. We can play with anyone in the country on any given day. We could reach the Sugar Bowl and beat down a SEC team that everyone is scared of right now (ala Louisville last year). We could also go to the Pinstripe Bowl and run into a buzz saw in a Rutgers team that plays their best game of the season. Going to a lesser bowl does not guarantee victory in the same way going to a BCS does not guarantee an embarrassing defeat as many Irish fans are predicting.

Bottom line, performance through the first six weeks of the season is a very poor indicator of how a team will perform after New Years, and, frankly, performance through the regular season is also often a poor indicator of how a team will play in a bowl game.

And, honestly, hearing ND fans say they'd rather go to a lesser bowl and look good because they are scared to get beat in a BCS bowl is downright embarrassing. You should be ashamed of yourself for having this defeatist attitude.

I completely get were your coming from but this team vs a SEC team with Rees behind center is not going to be pretty. it will just set us back even further.

this team is full of talent, nobody argue's that, but the defense has taken a step back and the offense, only because of Rees has aswell.

I know it sounds crappy but i rather take my chances with a lesser team and end the season high....

the oregon state, LSU, Ohio state , Bama games still give me nightmares

 

[IrishLax]

I want Fresno State in a BCS bowl. Football Gods... make it so.

 

[stlnd01]

I don't know why anyone would not want ND to go to a BCS bowl game.

It's like going to school to become a doctor, finally get your doctorate, and are in the process of becoming a doctor just to say "well it looks like it will be hard being a doctor, I will just work at McDonalds because it is something I know I will be good at".

I think playing in a BCS bowl is more beneficial win or lose than not playing in one.

Especially when our only alternative is a really crappy bowl against a third-rate opponent. I'm not sure what we get out of pasting Rutgers or Duke (to name two of the more-appealing potential opponents in our non-BCS options).

 

[irishfan]

I agree that for this year, its just not worth it for us to say we'd rather avoid the BCS.

Right now, ESPN's two weekly bowl "experts" are predicting us to play Duke or NC State in the AdvoCare v100 Bowl. Last year, Ohio played UL-Monroe in this bowl. Jerry Palm at CBS is predicting us to play Cincy in the Pinstripe Bowl. Again, this is a crappy bowl against a crappy opponent that will impress no recruits. I'd rather take our chances in the BCS than play in some below-average game that no recruits will care about.

Yes, I'd be worried about us playing the #2 team out of the SEC (looking like either LSU or A&M), and I'd be worried about us playing the #2 team in the ACC (FSU or Clemson). Apart from that, I really don't care who we play as long as its not Oregon. I'd be confident we wouldn't get embarassed by anyone else the PAC-12, Big 10, or Big 12 has to offer.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Take a look at the teams we'd likely face in a BCS bowl. ND doesn't match-up well against most of them.



This is where I'm at, too. Momentum is so important in CFB. Ending the season at 9-3 and then getting our 10th win against a manageable post-season opponent is the best we can realistically hope for heading into the 2014 off-season.

Like the momentum of losing to Florida State in the Citrus Bowl gave us to go 12-0? Or how Bama losing to Florida and Utah at the end of 2008 gave them the momentum to go win the national championship the next year?