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Quarterback U
It's only fitting that the most high-profile position is arguably the most interesting in our rankings.
USC narrowly edged Oklahoma as the official QBU, but it's far from clear-cut. USC has reloaded at the position unlike any other program, going from Carson Palmer to Matt Leinart to John David Booty to Mark Sanchez to Matt Barkley to Cody Kessler to Sam Darnold -- all of whom were drafted and four of whom were taken in the first round.
Oklahoma, on the other hand, boasts an incomparable run of truly elite guys, with four Heisman winners (Jason White, Sam Bradford, Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray) in the past 15 years, and three of those guys went first overall in the NFL draft. It's a slight edge for USC in consistency, but advantage Sooners when it comes to producing the most elite talent.
Perhaps as interesting as the teams at the top, however, is the team at No. 33. That'd be Alabama, checking in just after Syracuse and only a few spots ahead of Delaware. No team has dominated on the field during the BCS/College Football Playoff era quite like the Crimson Tide, but they've done it without elite QBs ... until last season, anyway.
Meanwhile, though the top 10 is full of big names, the team at No. 11 is worth a mention, too: Fresno State. Recruiting the Carr brothers worked out pretty well for the Bulldogs. If we run the numbers for QBU again in 10 years, however, Clemson might be the team at the top. The Tigers currently rank 16th, but with Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence and soon hotshot recruit D.J. Uiagalelei, the current run of superstar quarterbacks for Dabo Swinney is tough to match. -- David Hale
1. USC
Notable players: Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, Sam Darnold
2. Oklahoma
Notable players: Jason White, Sam Bradford, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray
3. Oregon
Notable players: A.J. Feeley, Joey Harrington, Marcus Mariota, Justin Herbert
4. Texas
Notable players: Major Applewhite, Chris Simms, Vince Young, Colt McCoy
5. Florida State
Notable players: Chris Weinke, Christian Ponder, EJ Manuel, Jameis Winston
6. Louisville
Notable players: Chris Redman, Brian Brohm, Teddy Bridgewater, Lamar Jackson
7. Auburn
Notable players: Jason Campbell, Cam Newton, Nick Marshall, Jarrett Stidham
8. Florida
Notable players: Jesse Palmer, Rex Grossman, Chris Leak, Tim Tebow
9. Texas A&M
Notable players: Jerrod Johnson, Ryan Tannehill, Johnny Manziel, Kellen Mond
10. Ohio State
Notable players: Craig Krenzel, Troy Smith, Terrelle Pryor, J.T. Barrett, Dwayne Haskins
It's only fitting that the most high-profile position is arguably the most interesting in our rankings.
USC narrowly edged Oklahoma as the official QBU, but it's far from clear-cut. USC has reloaded at the position unlike any other program, going from Carson Palmer to Matt Leinart to John David Booty to Mark Sanchez to Matt Barkley to Cody Kessler to Sam Darnold -- all of whom were drafted and four of whom were taken in the first round.
Oklahoma, on the other hand, boasts an incomparable run of truly elite guys, with four Heisman winners (Jason White, Sam Bradford, Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray) in the past 15 years, and three of those guys went first overall in the NFL draft. It's a slight edge for USC in consistency, but advantage Sooners when it comes to producing the most elite talent.
Perhaps as interesting as the teams at the top, however, is the team at No. 33. That'd be Alabama, checking in just after Syracuse and only a few spots ahead of Delaware. No team has dominated on the field during the BCS/College Football Playoff era quite like the Crimson Tide, but they've done it without elite QBs ... until last season, anyway.
Meanwhile, though the top 10 is full of big names, the team at No. 11 is worth a mention, too: Fresno State. Recruiting the Carr brothers worked out pretty well for the Bulldogs. If we run the numbers for QBU again in 10 years, however, Clemson might be the team at the top. The Tigers currently rank 16th, but with Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence and soon hotshot recruit D.J. Uiagalelei, the current run of superstar quarterbacks for Dabo Swinney is tough to match. -- David Hale
1. USC
Notable players: Carson Palmer, Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, Sam Darnold
2. Oklahoma
Notable players: Jason White, Sam Bradford, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray
3. Oregon
Notable players: A.J. Feeley, Joey Harrington, Marcus Mariota, Justin Herbert
4. Texas
Notable players: Major Applewhite, Chris Simms, Vince Young, Colt McCoy
5. Florida State
Notable players: Chris Weinke, Christian Ponder, EJ Manuel, Jameis Winston
6. Louisville
Notable players: Chris Redman, Brian Brohm, Teddy Bridgewater, Lamar Jackson
7. Auburn
Notable players: Jason Campbell, Cam Newton, Nick Marshall, Jarrett Stidham
8. Florida
Notable players: Jesse Palmer, Rex Grossman, Chris Leak, Tim Tebow
9. Texas A&M
Notable players: Jerrod Johnson, Ryan Tannehill, Johnny Manziel, Kellen Mond
10. Ohio State
Notable players: Craig Krenzel, Troy Smith, Terrelle Pryor, J.T. Barrett, Dwayne Haskins
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Running Back U
How deep, talented and productive has Alabama been at the running back position the past two decades?
Perhaps this is the best way to answer that question: Eddie Lacy was Alabama's starter for only one season (2012), but he piled up more than 2,400 rushing yards in his career. He's one of seven Alabama running backs to be selected in the first two rounds of the NFL draft, going back to 2000, and that includes a couple of Heisman Trophy winners in Derrick Henry in 2015 and Mark Ingram in 2009. While a handful of schools might stake claim to the Running Back U moniker since the start of the BCS in 1998, Alabama sits atop the throne.
Alabama is one of four SEC schools to make the top 10, and it edged Wisconsin, which has churned out the likes of Melvin Gordon, Ron Dayne, Montee Ball, Michael Bennett and James White in recent years. And talk about backfields loaded with talent. Miami's 2001 stable featured Frank Gore, Willis McGahee and Clinton Portis, and Arkansas in 2006 had Darren McFadden, Felix Jones and Peyton Hillis in the same backfield. The 2004 Auburn backfield was equally stout, with Ronnie Brown and Carnell "Cadillac" Williams, who went second overall and fifth overall, respectively, in the 2005 NFL draft.
One team surprisingly absent from the Running Back U top 10 is Georgia, which has had its share of talented runners over the years. In the past four years, the likes of Sony Michel, Nick Chubb and Todd Gurley have rumbled their way through Athens, but a lack of star power in the first half of the BCS era held the Dawgs back. -- Chris Low
1. Alabama
Notable players: Mark Ingram, Derrick Henry, Shaun Alexander
2. Wisconsin
Notable players: Ron Dayne, Melvin Gordon, Montee Ball
3. LSU
Notable players: Leonard Fournette, Kevin Faulk, Jacob Hester
4. Oklahoma
Notable players: Adrian Peterson, Samaje Perine, DeMarco Murray
5. Miami
Notable players: Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Edgerrin James
6. Pittsburgh
Notable players: James Conner, LeSean McCoy, Dion Lewis
7. Texas
Notable players: Ricky Williams, Cedric Benson, Jamaal Charles
8. Oregon
Notable players: LaMichael James, Jonathan Stewart, LeGarrette Blount
9. Arkansas
Notable players: Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis
10. Auburn
Notable players: Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Tre Mason
How deep, talented and productive has Alabama been at the running back position the past two decades?
Perhaps this is the best way to answer that question: Eddie Lacy was Alabama's starter for only one season (2012), but he piled up more than 2,400 rushing yards in his career. He's one of seven Alabama running backs to be selected in the first two rounds of the NFL draft, going back to 2000, and that includes a couple of Heisman Trophy winners in Derrick Henry in 2015 and Mark Ingram in 2009. While a handful of schools might stake claim to the Running Back U moniker since the start of the BCS in 1998, Alabama sits atop the throne.
Alabama is one of four SEC schools to make the top 10, and it edged Wisconsin, which has churned out the likes of Melvin Gordon, Ron Dayne, Montee Ball, Michael Bennett and James White in recent years. And talk about backfields loaded with talent. Miami's 2001 stable featured Frank Gore, Willis McGahee and Clinton Portis, and Arkansas in 2006 had Darren McFadden, Felix Jones and Peyton Hillis in the same backfield. The 2004 Auburn backfield was equally stout, with Ronnie Brown and Carnell "Cadillac" Williams, who went second overall and fifth overall, respectively, in the 2005 NFL draft.
One team surprisingly absent from the Running Back U top 10 is Georgia, which has had its share of talented runners over the years. In the past four years, the likes of Sony Michel, Nick Chubb and Todd Gurley have rumbled their way through Athens, but a lack of star power in the first half of the BCS era held the Dawgs back. -- Chris Low
1. Alabama
Notable players: Mark Ingram, Derrick Henry, Shaun Alexander
2. Wisconsin
Notable players: Ron Dayne, Melvin Gordon, Montee Ball
3. LSU
Notable players: Leonard Fournette, Kevin Faulk, Jacob Hester
4. Oklahoma
Notable players: Adrian Peterson, Samaje Perine, DeMarco Murray
5. Miami
Notable players: Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Edgerrin James
6. Pittsburgh
Notable players: James Conner, LeSean McCoy, Dion Lewis
7. Texas
Notable players: Ricky Williams, Cedric Benson, Jamaal Charles
8. Oregon
Notable players: LaMichael James, Jonathan Stewart, LeGarrette Blount
9. Arkansas
Notable players: Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis
10. Auburn
Notable players: Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Tre Mason
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Wide Receiver U
How did the Trojans get atop this list? Well, USC has eight seasons of all-conference wide receivers, which tied for fifth among Power 5 schools, and the Trojans have five All-American seasons from receivers, which tied for first nationally with Oklahoma State.
Those five All-Americans were huge factors in this ranking, and so were the 17 receivers drafted since the 1998 season, second only to Ohio State's 21. USC also had three receivers taken in the first round in that span.
In the past 15 seasons, USC has produced three 3,000-yard receivers: Marqise Lee, Dwayne Jarrett and JuJu Smith-Schuster. That's tied for first on this list with Oklahoma: Ryan Broyles, Sterling Shepard and Jalen Saunders.
The biggest surprise has to be LSU on this list. LSU has just five all-conference seasons from receivers and one All-American wideout: Josh Reed in 2001. Anemic offense and the lack of a 3,000-yard receiver over the past 15 years make you wonder how of all the Tigers in college football, these were the ones to make it in the top five.
Well, since 1998, 17 LSU receivers have been drafted. Do the names Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry mean anything to you? No one ever said LSU doesn't recruit studs, even if that potential wasn't always maximized in school. -- Edward Aschoff
1. USC
Notable players: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Mike Williams, Marqise Lee, Dwayne Jarrett
2. Ohio State
Notable players: Michael Thomas, Ted Ginn Jr., David Boston
3. Florida State
Notable players: Kelvin Benjamin, Rashad Greene, Peter Warrick
4. Oklahoma State
Notable players: James Washington, Justin Blackmon, Dez Bryant
5. LSU
Notable players: Odell Beckham Jr., Michael Clayton, Jarvis Landry
6. Oklahoma
Notable players: Marquise Brown, Ryan Broyles, Jalen Saunders, Sterling Shepard
7. Florida
Notable players: Percy Harvin, Andre Caldwell, Antonio Callaway
8. Michigan
Notable players: Devin Funchess, Braylon Edwards, David Terrell
9. Alabama
Notable players: Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley, Julio Jones, Jerry Jeudy
10. Notre Dame
Notable players: Golden Tate, Will Fuller, Michael Floyd
How did the Trojans get atop this list? Well, USC has eight seasons of all-conference wide receivers, which tied for fifth among Power 5 schools, and the Trojans have five All-American seasons from receivers, which tied for first nationally with Oklahoma State.
Those five All-Americans were huge factors in this ranking, and so were the 17 receivers drafted since the 1998 season, second only to Ohio State's 21. USC also had three receivers taken in the first round in that span.
In the past 15 seasons, USC has produced three 3,000-yard receivers: Marqise Lee, Dwayne Jarrett and JuJu Smith-Schuster. That's tied for first on this list with Oklahoma: Ryan Broyles, Sterling Shepard and Jalen Saunders.
The biggest surprise has to be LSU on this list. LSU has just five all-conference seasons from receivers and one All-American wideout: Josh Reed in 2001. Anemic offense and the lack of a 3,000-yard receiver over the past 15 years make you wonder how of all the Tigers in college football, these were the ones to make it in the top five.
Well, since 1998, 17 LSU receivers have been drafted. Do the names Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry mean anything to you? No one ever said LSU doesn't recruit studs, even if that potential wasn't always maximized in school. -- Edward Aschoff
1. USC
Notable players: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Mike Williams, Marqise Lee, Dwayne Jarrett
2. Ohio State
Notable players: Michael Thomas, Ted Ginn Jr., David Boston
3. Florida State
Notable players: Kelvin Benjamin, Rashad Greene, Peter Warrick
4. Oklahoma State
Notable players: James Washington, Justin Blackmon, Dez Bryant
5. LSU
Notable players: Odell Beckham Jr., Michael Clayton, Jarvis Landry
6. Oklahoma
Notable players: Marquise Brown, Ryan Broyles, Jalen Saunders, Sterling Shepard
7. Florida
Notable players: Percy Harvin, Andre Caldwell, Antonio Callaway
8. Michigan
Notable players: Devin Funchess, Braylon Edwards, David Terrell
9. Alabama
Notable players: Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley, Julio Jones, Jerry Jeudy
10. Notre Dame
Notable players: Golden Tate, Will Fuller, Michael Floyd
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ight End U
Miami can officially say it is Tight End U. As if the Hurricanes haven't already been making that proclamation, it's now undeniable. Miami has so many big names and impact players at the position, it's hard to deny the program the top spot.
Tight ends have evolved, and there is more value in the position now than ever. Names such as Jeremy Shockey and Greg Olsen helped make that transition.
It isn't surprising to see Iowa so high on this list either, as the Hawkeyes regularly produce top tight ends year in and year out. In fact, Iowa became the first school to have two tight ends chosen in the first 20 picks of the NFL draft in April, when T.J. Hockenson and Noah Fant were both selected in the first round. Iowa is a team that could take over the No. 1 spot if Miami isn't careful. -- Tom VanHaaren
1. Miami
Notable players: Bubba Franks, Jeremy Shockey, Greg Olsen, Jimmy Graham, David Njoku, Chris Herndon
2. Iowa
Notable players: Dallas Clark, Scott Chandler, Tony Moeaki, C.J. Fiedorowicz, George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Noah Fant
3. Stanford
Notable players: Coby Fleener, Zach Ertz, Austin Hooper, Dalton Schultz
4. Missouri
Notable players: Martin Rucker, Chase Coffman, Michael Egnew, Dwayne Blakley
5. Wisconsin
Notable players: Owen Daniels, Travis Beckum, Lance Kendricks, Troy Fumagalli
6. Oklahoma
Notable players: Mark Andrews, Blake Bell, James Hanna, Jermaine Gresham, Stephen Alexander
7. UCLA
Notable players: Bryan Fletcher, Marcedes Lewis, Thomas Duarte, Caleb Wilson
8. Arizona State
Notable players: Todd Heap, Brian Jennings, Zach Miller
9. Virginia
Notable players: Heath Miller, Bill Baber, Chris Luzar, Patrick Estes, Tom Santi
10. BYU
Notable players: Gabe Reid, Daniel Coats, Dennis Pitta, Jonny Harline
Miami can officially say it is Tight End U. As if the Hurricanes haven't already been making that proclamation, it's now undeniable. Miami has so many big names and impact players at the position, it's hard to deny the program the top spot.
Tight ends have evolved, and there is more value in the position now than ever. Names such as Jeremy Shockey and Greg Olsen helped make that transition.
It isn't surprising to see Iowa so high on this list either, as the Hawkeyes regularly produce top tight ends year in and year out. In fact, Iowa became the first school to have two tight ends chosen in the first 20 picks of the NFL draft in April, when T.J. Hockenson and Noah Fant were both selected in the first round. Iowa is a team that could take over the No. 1 spot if Miami isn't careful. -- Tom VanHaaren
1. Miami
Notable players: Bubba Franks, Jeremy Shockey, Greg Olsen, Jimmy Graham, David Njoku, Chris Herndon
2. Iowa
Notable players: Dallas Clark, Scott Chandler, Tony Moeaki, C.J. Fiedorowicz, George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Noah Fant
3. Stanford
Notable players: Coby Fleener, Zach Ertz, Austin Hooper, Dalton Schultz
4. Missouri
Notable players: Martin Rucker, Chase Coffman, Michael Egnew, Dwayne Blakley
5. Wisconsin
Notable players: Owen Daniels, Travis Beckum, Lance Kendricks, Troy Fumagalli
6. Oklahoma
Notable players: Mark Andrews, Blake Bell, James Hanna, Jermaine Gresham, Stephen Alexander
7. UCLA
Notable players: Bryan Fletcher, Marcedes Lewis, Thomas Duarte, Caleb Wilson
8. Arizona State
Notable players: Todd Heap, Brian Jennings, Zach Miller
9. Virginia
Notable players: Heath Miller, Bill Baber, Chris Luzar, Patrick Estes, Tom Santi
10. BYU
Notable players: Gabe Reid, Daniel Coats, Dennis Pitta, Jonny Harline
fightingirish26
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How ND made the top ten for WRs but not TEs is unbelievable. Also seventh for OL is probably too low.
A Stanley-Nelson-Martin-Martin-McGlinchey OL would arguably be the best in the NFL.
A Stanley-Nelson-Martin-Martin-McGlinchey OL would arguably be the best in the NFL.
Some Irish Bloke
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I feel like that's highway robbery right there...
I think Miami and Iowa are clear cut at the top. Stanford you can argue as well.
Anthony Fasano - Mackey Award Finalist. 2nd round pick, played for 12 seasons.
John Carlson - 2nd-Team All-American, Mackey Finalist. 2nd round, played 7 seasons.
Kyle Rudolph - Mackey Award Semi-Finalist, (would have won as a JR. if he stayed healthy IMO) 2nd round, entering his 9th NFL season. 2x Pro Bowler + 1 PB MVP
Tyler Eifert - John Mackey Award, First-Team All-American, 1st rd pick, 2015 Pro Bowler, heading into his 7th NFL season.
Troy Niklas - 2nd Rd Draft pick, played 4 NFL seasons, current free agent.
Ben Koyak - 7th Rd draft pick, heading into his 5th NFL season.
Durham Smythe - 4th Rd Draft pick, currently entering his 2nd NFL season.
Alize Mack - 7th Rd Draft pick, entering his rookie season.
So, not even counting Troy, who could still find himself a try-out/roster spot at some point, we have five active TEs in the NFL, two of which are pro-bowlers, and you can make a case that Eifert is one of the elite pass-catching TEs who's career has been unfortunately derailed by health issues.
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ND has had every starting tight end drafted since 03. We're at least top three even in this wide time frame of BCS to CFP, easily.
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Notre Dame is f*cked, because a large part of their calculation includes all conference performers. Even with what is written below, it's not mathematical/scientific apples to apples. Nor does their explanation on how they offset ND's lack of conference affiliation really make sense to me.
How about to make all things equal all conference performers be removed for the calculation...
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Yep. At worse 4.
Yes. Notre Dame is 7th, but saying that they did state ND is moving up fast.
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Notre Dame's O-Line would beat the living shit out if the other schools. Nelson and the Martin's alone settles it.
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Agreed. I wouldve had nD at 4