Brian Kelly Revisited

Riddickulous · Sep 12, 2015

I think we've peaked, or near peaked under Kelly, but he's the best option available right now so we're stuck with him. 8-9 wins a year is a hell of a lot better than we were doing before.

koonja · Sep 12, 2015

Rhode Irish said:
Koon is leading this thread in logic.

I'm drunk so it comes naturally.

Irish Insanity · Sep 12, 2015

pkt77242 said:
Koon, nailed it.

That never happens

wizards8507 said:
Saban Meyer Belichick have ring cases that make the Queen of England jealous.

The bigger the asshole, the better the coach.

pkt77242 · Sep 12, 2015

Rhode Irish said:
Koon is leading this thread in logic.

Yep. It is killing me that people are forcing me to agree with Koon.

j/k Koon.

NorthDakota · Sep 12, 2015

I feel good about this team unless a bunch more starters get hurt.

Irish Insanity · Sep 12, 2015

Lamar is beating Baylor.

GATTACA! · Sep 12, 2015

wizards8507 said:
Saban Meyer Belichick have ring cases that make the Queen of England jealous.

Exactly. Being an ashole has zero impact on how good of a football coach you are.

If you wanna rip Kelly on his merits go for it, but whether or not someone is an asshole is a stupid measuring chart.

koonja · Sep 12, 2015

So who is next on the 'year ending injury' list for next week? We already lost our #1 DL IMO, our QB, #1 RB. Fuller/Jaylon/Stanley? Odds?

I fucking hate it but this is my thought process right now. Games aren't even fun to watch because I'm just cringing everytime there's a tackle.

gkIrish · Sep 12, 2015

Riddickulous said:
I think we've peaked, or near peaked under Kelly, but he's the best option available right now so we're stuck with him. 8-9 wins a year is a hell of a lot better than we were doing before.

Maybe that's where the divide comes from. Some people (like me) expect championship caliber football. Others are satisfied with 8 wins because of all the other coaches since Lou. I don't think we are an 8 win program. I think we can be a 10 win program with the right coach.

GATTACA! · Sep 12, 2015

I can't believe we couldn't hold off on this thread until we actually lost a game.

Irish Insanity · Sep 12, 2015

koonja said:
So who is next on the 'year ending injury' list for next week? We already lost our #1 DL IMO, our QB, #1 RB. Fuller/Jaylon/Stanley? Odds?

I fucking hate it but this is my thought process right now. Games aren't even fun to watch because I'm just cringing everytime there's a tackle.

If one of these gets hurt, you should be banned for life. Don't put that shit on this team.

koonja · Sep 12, 2015

Irish Insanity said:
If one of these gets hurt, you should be banned for life. Don't put that shit on this team.

Don't you put that, put that on me. The football gods have already put that shit on this team, clearly.

tko · Sep 12, 2015

Irish Insanity said:
Lamar is beating Baylor.

Lamar Latrell?

pumpdog20 · Sep 12, 2015

I like BK as the coach of Notre Dame, I just hate his offensive playcalling.

wizards8507 · Sep 12, 2015

GATTACA! said:
Exactly. Being an ashole has zero impact on how good of a football coach you are.

If you wanna rip Kelly on his merits go for it, but whether or not someone is an asshole is a stupid measuring chart.

BK's particular brand of asshole is unearned arrogance. That's my point. Asshole is fine if it's earned.

Cogs · Sep 12, 2015

I think BVG's defense is wayyyy more of an issue right now than Kelly. No turnovers so far and the team looks sharp from a mental standpoint on offense. The offense has scored pretty heavily these last two seasons, bad defense and not scoring quick enough in the redzone is what's hurting us.

Senoj13 · Sep 12, 2015

tko said:
Lamar Latrell?

Does he still have the "limp wrist" throwing style?

koonja · Sep 12, 2015

pumpdog20 said:
I like BK as the coach of Notre Dame, I just hate his offensive playcalling.

This. He needs to get rid of that shit. Let someone else call the plays. I hear there's a guy that's amazing on our staff, let's let him play.

Veer option · Sep 12, 2015

koonja said:
Lou's retired from ESPN, get his ass off of the couch and to ND. He can coach the defense.

Holtz couldnt make it. You can't grab a face mask to discipline a player in this PC world. Doing so might offed some players sensibilities.

Cali_domer · Sep 12, 2015

Cogs said:
I think BVG's defense is wayyyy more of an issue right now than Kelly. No turnovers so far and the team looks sharp from a mental standpoint on offense. The offense has scored pretty heavily these last two seasons, bad defense and not scoring quick enough in the redzone is what's hurting us.

I agree but we had one fumble recovery today

tko · Sep 12, 2015

Senoj13 said:
Does he still have the "limp wrist" throwing style?

Yessir, LOL.

Sherm Sticky · Sep 12, 2015

Honestly what other team in the country after week two has lost their starting running back and quarter back? Crazy!

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Cali_domer · Sep 12, 2015

Sherm Sticky said:
Honestly what other team in the country after week two has lost their starting running back and quarter back? Crazy!

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Only at ND, amazing

Irish Insanity · Sep 12, 2015

Sherm Sticky said:
Honestly what other team in the country after week two has lost their starting running back and quarter back? Crazy!

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And D lineman, and safety.

And their fanbase. Even tho they're 2-0

ACamp1900 · Sep 12, 2015

If all things eventually even out ND has one of the most healthy, most dominating, natty runs ever coming fairly soon... So I tell myself.

Sherm Sticky · Sep 12, 2015

Irish Insanity said:
And D lineman, and safety.

And their fanbase. Even tho they're 2-0

Sebastian wasn't a starter and should be back for the second half of the season. But I feel ya.

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ThePiombino · Sep 12, 2015

Cogs said:
I think BVG's defense is wayyyy more of an issue right now than Kelly. No turnovers so far and the team looks sharp from a mental standpoint on offense. The offense has scored pretty heavily these last two seasons, bad defense and not scoring quick enough in the redzone is what's hurting us.

Unless you count the turnover they forced. Today. But yeah, I'm not feeling great about BVG. Hopefully today was more about UVA's offensive play calling than BVG...

gkIrish · Sep 12, 2015

If injuries and the other standard responses to coach criticism carry so much weight we might as well shut this board down and give up on ND football ever winning a championship. I refuse to settle for being above average.

koonja · Sep 12, 2015

gkIrish said:
If injuries and the other standard responses to coach criticism carry so much weight we might as well shut this board down and give up on ND football ever winning a championship. I refuse to settle for being above average.

Yeah, but this is ND not Bama/OSU. We can't afford injuries like football factories. We recruit just well enough to have top talent at the starting positions, but our backups are littered with 3-star, RKG's. OSU/Bama's 2nd/3rd string isn't. That's just how it is at ND, and it's not changing with a HC change. We need MORE luck in the injury department than a football facrtory school. ND can't be compared across the board because we'll never have 4/5 star guys at back up spots across the board. OSU has 5 star guys sitting in the 3 deep.

kmoose · Sep 12, 2015

gkIrish said:
If injuries and the other standard responses to coach criticism carry so much weight ....

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