Brian Kelly Revisited

Brian Kelly Revisited


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gkIrish

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I'm just going to post a bunch of random negative thoughts about BK in this post but feel free to use this as a place to talk about him good or bad.

1. BK will now get a pass from most Irish fans assuming we don't completely tank. The "10 win" expectation most fans had will probably now drop down to 7-8 wins. It's not like we were playing very well when Malik went down...

2. Still never seems to have a plan B in place when things go poorly. I mean he was sitting there talking to Malik for what seemed like 6 plays rather than focusing on the actual game. I understand going over there to console him briefly but my impression was that BK was trying to see if he could come back in to play so Kizer didn't have to. In other words, plan B was "Oh shit can I still go with Plan A." This isn't the best example of this (Joe Schmidt going down and ND defense collapsing is better) but seems to happen a lot.

3. Play calling is still utterly horrible. There was a 20 minute stretch during the game where I didn't understand why we ran every play when we did. The 2nd and 10 runs, the 4th and short dive plays. The lack of screens. etc. etc. I don't even know who calls plays anymore it changes so often but it's ultimately on the head coach.

4. How many academically elite schools are going to beat us or come close to beating us (Northwestern, Stanford, Virginia, Navy, etc.) before we stop using our academics as an excuse for recruiting seemingly getting worse every year.

5. How long will we stay with a coach just because we fear we can't do better. 2012 was a team with many Weis players. Our records were 8-4 and 7-5 with teams with only BK players. This season will likely be very similar.

I used to be a huge BK supporter. Don't think I can do it anymore. Especially if we lose 4 games again this year. Obviously we are 2-0 and I hope we win every game and will gladly eat my words but I'm scouting the college football coaching landscape for new candidates.
 
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koonja

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I'm torn. On one hand I'm thinking 'man, if Fuller and/or Jaylon somehow came back next year, we're loaded'. But we say that almost every other year. Also struggling with BK struggling with plan B. Jimbo Fisher sends every QB to the first round, and no back up looked worse than Sam Mcguire last year when Jameis was suspended and they had time to prepare.

I honestly think we have just fuck ugly luck.
 

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Still no excuses this year. Kizer was a top recruit...coach him up and let's run the table. Make your money BK.

Saban and Meyer won NCs with first time starters.
 

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I've never really bought in, but I've never really hated either... I've always hoped BK could be the guy who sets up the guy... Not sure ive ever believed he can be the one. Again have always hoped I'm wrong.
 

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I was one foot off the wagon a few years ago. I've fallen off now.

Show out, or get out.
 
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koonja

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Still no excuses this year. Kizer was a top recruit...coach him up and let's run the table. Make your money BK.

Saban and Meyer won NCs with first time starters.

Not fair to BK. Look at the differences in schedule.
 

gkIrish

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Also...in before "Auburn almost lost to Jacksonville St. today" and "Arkansas lost to Toledo at home"
 

Irish Insanity

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I've never really bought in, but I've never really hated either... I've always hoped BK could be the guy who sets up the guy... Not sure ive ever believed he can be the one. Again have always hoped I'm wrong.

I bought in for the first year or so......
 

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Still no excuses this year. Kizer was a top recruit...coach him up and let's run the table. Make your money BK.

Saban and Meyer won NCs with first time starters.

Shouldn't have to coach him up! That is one of my issues with BK. Why aren't our backups or young guys ready to play. They are at other schools around the country try but not here at ND.
 

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Not a fan of Kelly but he now gave Swarbrick an excuse no matter how bad the year gets.

I think we will make it to 4-0 then crater.
 

wizards8507

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New favorite thread.

How about the fact that he's just a giant asshole?
 

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No reason to hate on BK. He's down a QB and a RB, but he will have a plan.

All is not lost.
 

gkIrish

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If not BK, then who?

I'll give you a list in the next couple of weeks. Going to put some real effort and research into realistic candidates who we could take a look at. As I said in the OP, I don't believe in the concept that you don't fire someone because you fear there is no better option. That's what Virginia Tech and Georgia have been doing for a decade plus and how many championships have they combined to win?

This thread comes earlier and earlier each year.

Because our playoff hopes end earlier and earlier.
 
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koonja

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To be fair, we are 2-0 and technically the backup lead us to a game winning drive of 83 yards with under 2 minutes to go.

I believe we'll drop at least 3 too now, but BK gets the benefit of the doubt. It's not his fault Malik is out.
 

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Also...in before "Auburn almost lost to Jacksonville St. today" and "Arkansas lost to Toledo at home"

Ahhhhhh the old "I brought up a logical rebuttal to my argument before anyone else so it doesn't hold any weight."

That's a clown post bro.
 

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I agree with the guys above: No excuses. Nut the fuck up, or shut the fuck up. Win 10, or you and your team is a failure.
 

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That never bothers me, most of the best coaches are assholes.
Yes but those BEST coaches have earned it. Brian Kelly has the most cocksure, smug, arrogant disposition you can possibly fathom for the reigning Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl champion.
 
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That never bothers me, most of the best coaches are assholes.

Pretty much, of all ND coaches in my lifetime I can think of two who weren't largely considered a holes, Faust and Willingham... And MAYBE Davie.... I guess...
 

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Shouldn't have to coach him up! That is one of my issues with BK. Why aren't our backups or young guys ready to play. They are at other schools around the country try but not here at ND.

Kizer sure looked ready to play tonight. If you take out the fake FG, Kizer went 7/11 for 85 yards and a TD. Not bad for his first real game play. And that TD throw to Fuller was a great throw!
 
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koonja

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If you were reading this without knowing, you'd think Kizer threw a pick 6 and we lost the game...
 

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How can you guys blame Kelly today? We were about to cover the spread away before the injury to Zaire. We have the shittiest luck in college football yeah but what other coach could change that.
 
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