‘27 FL LB Amarri Irvin (Virginia Tech Verbal)

[Dale]

2027 Eligibility assuming 5 for 5 passes:

Drayk Bowen (1)
Jaiden Ausberry (1)
Kahuna Kia (1)
Kyng Viliamu-Asa (2)
Teddy Rezac (2)
Madden Faraimo (3)
Ko’o Kia (3)
Kobe Clapper (4)
Thomas Davis Jr (4)

 

[IrishInOntario]

We are gonna have to go into the portal and pay big $$ this offseason. We haven’t recruited overly well in a couple years at LB for whatever reason when you have a former LB and defensive minded head coach.

Or you just pay big now and give the money to Kaden Henderson and rock with...

KVA (if he returns)
Ausberry
Faraimo
Kia
Rezac
Kia
Davis Jr
Clapper
Henderson
Underrated prospect

In a defense that is in nickel / dime 75% of the time and only plays 2 linebackers, I don't understand the sentiment that ND is going to have a problem at linebacker heading into 2027. I think that's severely misguided.

Also, with Bowen, Sneed and KVA (possible) coming off the books, those are 3 of ND's highest paid players, freeing up substantial money. If ND had to go spend some money in the portal to add 1 additional quality linebacker because KVA doesn't return, that's absolutely nothing in today's game.

 

[Dale]

We are gonna have to go into the portal and pay big $$ this offseason. We haven’t recruited overly well in a couple years at LB for whatever reason when you have a former LB and defensive minded head coach.

Why? We start two linebackers, 3 of our top 4 have the ability to return plus everyone believes Faraimo is next man up. The odds that next years starting linebackers are both on the roster and highly touted are extremely high. We have to pay big money for a backup linebacker?

You’re probably looking for a Jayden Sanders type add if anything at all.

 

[allenm5333]

Why? We start two linebackers, 3 of our top 4 have the ability to return plus everyone believes Faraimo is next man up. The odds that next years starting linebackers are both on the roster and highly touted are extremely high. We have to pay big money for a backup linebacker?

You’re probably looking for a Jayden Sanders type add if anything at all.

kinda like that idea. Some rising sophomore who flashed and is enamored by our recent lb success

 

[Rocketman84]

We are gonna have to go into the portal and pay big $$ this offseason. We haven’t recruited overly well in a couple years at LB for whatever reason when you have a former LB and defensive minded head coach.

They haven't recruited well at LB in years and the portal (aside from JJB) has been non-existent.

 

[Dale]

They haven't recruited well at LB in years and the portal (aside from JJB) has been non-existent.

Landing a Top 5 LB in both the 2024 and 2025 classes wasn’t good? If they land Henderson, they’ll have landed a Top 5 LB in 3 of the last 4 years. 2023 had Ausberry and Bowen. 2022 class had, yet another Top 5
LB in Sneed.

Are people under the impression linebacker isn’t a 2 starter position group?

 

[Ian77]

His brother got processed

Given the guy they replaced him with, I would assume even he understood the situation...

 

[IrishLion]

They haven't recruited well at LB in years and the portal (aside from JJB) has been non-existent.

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. LB at ND is healthy and pretty well stocked, is it not?

 

[GoIrish41]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. LB at ND is healthy and pretty well stocked, is it not?

Next year is troublesome. The possibility that Sneed, Bowen and KVA may all enter the draft (Ausberry could as well, but I doubt he does) leaves Faraimo and a lot of unproven talent. That unproven talent is made up of players that some feel came from weak classes and are anything but a sure thing to replace a lot of dependable production.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Next year is troublesome. The possibility that Sneed, Bowen and KVA may all enter the draft (Ausberry could as well, but I doubt he does) leaves Faraimo and a lot of unproven talent. That unproven talent is made up of players that some feel came from weak classes and are anything but a sure thing to replace a lot of dependable production.

People need to take a chill pill. We only start 2 LB’s Farimo will be a stud and it’s a high likelyhood one of the guys with years left come back. Also Davis Jr, KIA and Clapper are all gonna be productive players.

 

[MacIrish75]

People need to take a chill pill. We only start 2 LB’s Farimo will be a stud and it’s a high likelyhood one of the guys with years left come back. Also Davis Jr, KIA and Clapper are all gonna be productive players.

 

[Rocketman84]

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. LB at ND is healthy and pretty well stocked, is it not?

The upperclassmen and Faraimo are very good...The problem is the recruiting since that '23 group has been "very average" by ND standards. Rezac, Kahoun, Kia, Davis Jr, Clapper is a middle of the pack group but definitely not moving the needle for a top 10 team.

 

[Dale]

The upperclassmen and Faraimo are very good...The problem is the recruiting since that '23 group has been "very average" by ND standards. Rezac, Kahoun, Kia, Davis Jr, Clapper is a middle of the pack group but definitely not moving the needle for a top 10 team.

So when you don’t count KVA and Faraimo the recruiting is average?

Can we live in a world where we do count all the players?

 

[KPENN]

If need be no reason to think they don’t get a really good LB in the portal.

 

[allenm5333]

All this ends with Henderson and Gray reclassiffying

 

[IAIrish]

The upperclassmen and Faraimo are very good...The problem is the recruiting since that '23 group has been "very average" by ND standards. Rezac, Kahoun, Kia, Davis Jr, Clapper is a middle of the pack group but definitely not moving the needle for a top 10 team.

Strange hill to die on, Rocket.

With the nickel as the base, these big linebacker classes are dinosaurs. Imo, get one elite guy per year and stack the rest of the depth chart with bluechips. This is exactly what ND has done.

 

[MacIrish75]

Strange hill to die on, Rocket.

With the nickel as the base, these big linebacker classes are dinosaurs. Imo, get one elite guy per year and stack the rest of the depth chart with bluechips. This is exactly what ND has done.

💯.

It’s not 1998 anymore playing your base 4-3 with three traditional linebackers against an opponent running the I-Formation anymore.

 

[Rocketman84]

So when you don’t count KVA and Faraimo the recruiting is average?

Can we live in a world where we do count all the players?

Well if you read KVA is an upperclassmen and it clearly states outside of those guys and Faraimo it's average and has been average since those guys signed. Those guys listed wouldn't be considered "World Beaters" by anyone or expected to major contributors to a top 5 team.

 

[Dale]

Well if you read KVA is an upperclassmen and it clearly states outside of those guys and Faraimo it's average and has been average since those guys signed. Those guys listed wouldn't be considered "World Beaters" by anyone or expected to major contributors to a top 5 team.

Why did you include Kahoun and Rezac then if the point was supposed to be the 2025 and 2026 class only? You included them to weaken the group you wanted to present - but then you have to rightly include KVA too then, no?

KVA, Kahoun, Rezac, Faraimo, Sacca, Kia, Clapper, Davis

OR

Faraimo, Sacca, Kia, Clapper and Davis

NOT

Rezac, Kahoun, Kia, Davis Jr, Clapper

 

[Rocketman84]

Strange hill to die on, Rocket.

With the nickel as the base, these big linebacker classes are dinosaurs. Imo, get one elite guy per year and stack the rest of the depth chart with bluechips. This is exactly what ND has done.

What? Nobody said they needed a big LB class and maybe if they were getting one 'Elite" per year and blue chips guys then we wouldn't be having this convo. Getting a 4⭐ and guys outside of the top 500/PWO types is hardly blue chips. If you stacking the depth chart with top 300-350 guys that's one thing but some of these guys I know from day one A. Won't ever see the field or B. Transfer Portal, simply because they weren't good enough to be at this level of Ball.

I believe a couple are already gone, "honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom".

 

[Rocketman84]

Why did you include Kahoun and Rezac then if the point was supposed to be the 2025 and 2026 class only? You included them to weaken the group you wanted to present, but then you have to rightly include KVA too then, no?

I didn't mention those two classes specifically I said LB recruiting has been underwhelming since the class of '23. So yes, as I stated from day one with those "filler" recruits like Zinter, Kahoun, Rezac those guys never see the field and end up in the portal.

 

[Dale]

I didn't mention those two classes specifically I said LB recruiting has been underwhelming since the class of '23

……and KVA was in the 2024 class.

 

[Rocketman84]

……and KVA was in the 2024 class.

.....and KVA is an UPPERCLASSMEN

 

[Dale]

.....and KVA is an UPPERCLASSMEN

 

[Rocketman84]

Are you on drugs?

Can you read?

 

[Dale]

Can you read?

Yes. To be clear, you’re take is since the 2023 class, linebacker recruiting is underwhelming, besides Faraimo and “upperclassmen” from the 2024 class. Upperclassmen being KVA.

So in short, linebacker recruiting has been underwhelming if you don’t count the two best recruits, correct?

 

[INLaw]

So rocket is Koon right?

 

[Dale]

CBs to Va Tech

 

[arrowryan]

Good luck playing for black BK

 

[allenm5333]

Good luck playing for black BK

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