'21 MN OL Joe Alt (Notre Dame Signee)

Jiggafini19Deux

What do you hillbillies want?
Messages
8,787
Reaction score
7,441
Yeah I'm with you, I would love Alt but if the Bears are in a position to draft Alt, it's possible they could get Marvin Harrison Jr instead or Nabors out of LSU and another top WR is a much bigger need for this team. I don't think anyone could have guessed it before this season, but OT ain't a position of need for the Bears right now. Your list and mine are mostly the same but I'd go with Safety over Corner with the expectation that Jaylon Johnson gets extended and Eddie Jackson is cut (since his cap savings would mostly pay for Jaylon's contract).
Right now the Bears are First and Fifth.

Patriots, Commanders, Titans, Jets, Chargers, Saints, Rams all probably have OT higher on their needs list and all of them right now are selecting in the Top 15.

Some teams are going to pass on Alt and it has nothing to do with them being incompetent, hating on ND prospects or whatever. Alt will become a millionaire just like Michael Mayer and everyone's lives are going to press onward.
 

IRISHDODGER

Blue Chip Recruit
Messages
5,462
Reaction score
3,114
after being projected as a high first rounder, I wonder how far he drops in the projections by the draft “experts” who did similarly to Kyle Hamilton, JOK, Kyren & Mayer?
 

CanadalovesND

Well-known member
Messages
5,059
Reaction score
3,136
after being projected as a high first rounder, I wonder how far he drops in the projections by the draft “experts” who did similarly to Kyle Hamilton, JOK, Kyren & Mayer?

There has been some scouting reports that have seen Alt's length as a downside to his ability to play left tackle. That he may not have the true bend and flexibility to be a left tackle. I must admit, I haven't seen that and I think it's farfetched, but I haven't watched every single snap of Alt over the last two seasons.

There is a small sense in the scouting community that he is more McGlinchey than Stanley.
 

Jiggafini19Deux

What do you hillbillies want?
Messages
8,787
Reaction score
7,441
after being projected as a high first rounder, I wonder how far he drops in the projections by the draft “experts” who did similarly to Kyle Hamilton, JOK, Kyren & Mayer?
Depends on any movement that occurs in the draft via trades, along with all the evaluation by the teams drafting in the first round between now and April. Feels like the "experts" know less and less about what these teams are actually going to do than ever before.

It really should not be taken as a slight by any of these guys and especially not to ND fans, because at the end of the day, everyone is on a roster and everyone gets paid. Certain teams are going to go with players they feel they need more than others. That's sports.
 

dublinirish

Everestt Gholstonson
Messages
23,791
Reaction score
6,670
after being projected as a high first rounder, I wonder how far he drops in the projections by the draft “experts” who did similarly to Kyle Hamilton, JOK, Kyren & Mayer?
tbf even though its early a lot of media folks are high on Alt


 

IRISHDODGER

Blue Chip Recruit
Messages
5,462
Reaction score
3,114
There has been some scouting reports that have seen Alt's length as a downside to his ability to play left tackle. That he may not have the true bend and flexibility to be a left tackle. I must admit, I haven't seen that and I think it's farfetched, but I haven't watched every single snap of Alt over the last two seasons.

There is a small sense in the scouting community that he is more McGlinchey than Stanley.
Of course…right on cue. I know the NFL is different than college & not everything translates but look how they downgraded guys like JOK & Kyle Hamilton who are thriving in the NFL & would be the envy of any defense. Too early to tell on Mayer & TE breaks into two categories IMO based on need.
 

zelezo vlk

Well-known member
Messages
16,604
Reaction score
3,073
The difference between Alt and the rest of those ND greats is that Alt plays a premium position. Safeties, RBs, and TEs are all relatively low value and this is evident in how teams draft them (usually).
 

IRISHDODGER

Blue Chip Recruit
Messages
5,462
Reaction score
3,114
The difference between Alt and the rest of those ND greats is that Alt plays a premium position. Safeties, RBs, and TEs are all relatively low value and this is evident in how teams draft them (usually).
Right. Stanley, Nelson & McGlinchey going top 10 proves that point. You left out JOK though. LB are high value & he was undervalued to say the least. I know the Browns suck, but he has been great this season.
 

zelezo vlk

Well-known member
Messages
16,604
Reaction score
3,073
Right. Stanley, Nelson & McGlinchey going top 10 proves that point. You left out JOK though. LB are high value & he was undervalued to say the least. I know the Browns suck, but he has been great this season.
LB is not really a high value position either, very few off-ball LBs are picked high in the 1st round and let's not forget that JOK had a medical flag (that he denied btw) from the Combine.
 

Jiggafini19Deux

What do you hillbillies want?
Messages
8,787
Reaction score
7,441
Alt is able to mask a lot of his weaknesses with his size, and he actually improved from 2022 in many respects. A lot can change between now and the draft, and nobody really knows what the front offices are thinking, but it would seem that if you are looking for an OT in 2024 Alt and Fashanu from Penn State are the top dogs on that board.

Do not be surprised if Mims from UGA goes flying up a lot of these Mock Drafts from pundits.
 

dublinirish

Everestt Gholstonson
Messages
23,791
Reaction score
6,670

7. Tennessee Titans

Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
The Titans would be jumping for joy in this scenario. Will Levis has shown that he could possibly be the long-term quarterback answer, but Tennessee needs multiple new starters along the offensive line to protect him. The Andre Dillard signing hasn't worked out, so left tackle is a huge question mark for whoever ends up as the Titans' new coach.
The 6-foot-8, 320-pound Alt was the most impressive prospect I saw out on the scouting trail this season. He has shown continuous improvement each year of his college career, and some scouts believe Alt -- who allowed two sacks combined over the past two seasons -- is the most well-rounded blocker in this class. Penn State's Olumuyiwa Fashanu could also be the move here, but it shouldn't come as a surprise if Alt is the first offensive tackle off the board.
Team needs: OT, CB, WR
 

Giddyup

Banned
Messages
2,489
Reaction score
1,530
That franchise is a disaster right now, I guess that’s where u have to go to get picked early.
 

dublinirish

Everestt Gholstonson
Messages
23,791
Reaction score
6,670
Daniel Jeremiah 2024 NFL mock draft 1.0: Bears, Commanders, Patriots, Saints pick quarterbacks

7
Tennessee Titans

Tennessee Titans

Joe Alt

Joe Alt
Notre Dame · OT · Junior
The Titans’ offensive line was in shambles this past season. As the rebuilding process begins, Alt could protect Will Levis’ blindside for years to come.
 

IHateMarkMay

IHateDavidPollackToo
Messages
3,792
Reaction score
865
I think the Bears are doing everything to make it seem like they want Williams to drive his trade price up.

Scratch that, I hope that's what they're doing.
 

Green Mountains

Active member
Messages
210
Reaction score
138
As a Giants fan....I hope they grab him at 6. Andrew Thomas looks like a fixture at LT. Evan Neal looks like a bust at RT. Slide Joe into RT, push Neal to guard. And that gets the line fixed.
 

Junkhead

Community Mod
Messages
7,428
Reaction score
968
The front page of this thread, he looks so young! And wasn't even ranked very high in recruiting. It's awesome that he has the chance to be a top 10 pick!
 

rtrn2glory

Well-known member
Messages
12,836
Reaction score
2,178
Bears trade down and get Marvin and Joe.... Grand slam draft if that happens
 

NDdomer2

Local Sports vBookie
Messages
16,727
Reaction score
3,345
So you believe in Fields? I still don't really know what to think about him
I believe the bears have more issues than QB and I believe they aren't likely to get that any level more "right" than fields so id rather they improve the whole roster than continue to draft average to mediocre QBs and have a shitty roster around it.
 

IHateMarkMay

IHateDavidPollackToo
Messages
3,792
Reaction score
865
I believe the bears have more issues than QB and I believe they aren't likely to get that any level more "right" than fields so id rather they improve the whole roster than continue to draft average to mediocre QBs and have a shitty roster around it.
Agreed with this. Fields won't ever be the best QB in the league, but the roster holes on Chicago make him seem much worse than he actually is. I hope they make it seem like they want Williams so they drive the trade price up, grab a few studs and get another round one pick next year.
 

Green Mountains

Active member
Messages
210
Reaction score
138
Agreed with this. Fields won't ever be the best QB in the league, but the roster holes on Chicago make him seem much worse than he actually is. I hope they make it seem like they want Williams so they drive the trade price up, grab a few studs and get another round one pick next year.
And after seeing Caleb Williams play against ND, he's a punk. Talented, yes. I feel like he has bust written all over him - when a potential number 1 overall talks about getting an ownership stake....that's just an over inflated ego.

The Bears will likely draft Williams and trade Fields. Williams will be on the first year of a rookie contract, while Fields in entering year 4 and will cost a ton more money much sooner. But I think a trade down move would be wiser.
 
Top