‘21 AL QB Riley Leonard (Duke Transfer - Notre Dame Verbal)

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IRISHMAN said:
yeah i was thinking about that since greathouse didnt get credited for a single catch vs purdue. also makes it hard to recruite wrs.
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Eh, make plays first. No one to blame but himself after his drop against NIU. He looked good on the play that got called back, I hope he can do that with consistency.
 
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stlnd01 said:
Parker.

Buchner left b/c he knew he was never going to start over Sam and was offered at least a shot to start at Alabama. Who wouldn't take that? I don't really think he should be our QB ever again but he's a solid kid who did his best, and when you watch Leonard, the similarities in their games - pro and con - are striking. We should probably move on from run-first QBs with big arms but accuracy problems.
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Someone with better self awareness
 
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Certainly it's been said, but the "worst" part of Saturday was how RL scoring as he did still doesn't fix the issues. When SA came in, that play action TD pass was a thing of beauty that was set up from a run earlier in the game where we see Purdue's WAAAAY back single high selling out on the run. Just feels like there's no way RL can do that since his scheme has to be run first and maybe catch you on a little dink pass/trick (if he can complete it/see it and you're the first/only read). SA's sacks, to me, were less concerning and more a product of minimal playing time.
 
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You know I'd be fine if we ran it 80% of the time. We'd win most games with these backs. Love and Price are both dynamic. The problem is we aren't doing that. Love stopped getting touches after his TD versus Northern Illinois. If we want a qb who can drop back on 2nd and 1 in the 4th, start a quarterback who can throw the ball.
 
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luckofirish8 said:
This statement in and of itself isn't that bad, but put it in the context of how this team (and coaches) handled RL particularly the game plan post his injury in the NIU game it seems so much worse.
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To me, it's the coaches know they can't call a game plan that rely's specifically on being pass first. But, not only pass first, but passing in a way that defenses can't put 8 or 9 in the box. The passing TD to Flanigan worked because the safety sold out on stopping the run. He never even considered we'd pass (which was stupid cuz Angeli was in). That's how much teams don't respect ND passing the ball.

We're a ranked version of Navy right now.
 
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Considering we lost to NIU because they couldn't scheme to pass, this sounds really dense.

There are a lot of ways to you could speak this up without sounding like you are completely forgetting the last time you tried to scheme up a win through the air, you lost to a ridiculous football team.
 
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I'm mean he isn't entirely wrong. We put up 42 points in a half by mostly running the ball. But this game will not work against Louisville in two weeks so we need to see Riley have some ability to throw the ball down the field.
 
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NDpendent said:
I'm mean he isn't entirely wrong. We put up 42 points in a half by mostly running the ball. But this game will not work against Louisville in two weeks so we need to see Riley have some ability to throw the ball down the field.
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THis is the point the talking heads, and apparently, the head coach, are missing. We as fans, understand you could run all you wanted on Purdue and that gameplan worked. But we are projecting to matchups where that plan won't work. Against good defenses who put 8 or 9 in the box and send their safeties around the end to keep the QB contained.

AND, the few times we tried to throw longer developing routes, Leonard again, couldn't do it. The only legit play he had was a decent ball to Greathouse that was called back by a penalty.
 
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Some Irish Bloke said:
Tommy Rees

Rees and Mahomes are not the same lol
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It sounds like you're saying game manager means a certain style, usually played by guys with limited athletically. I'm saying every QB should make it their goal to be a game manager. It's the main part of their job. How they do it differs based on their god given talents and work ethic.

Tommy is a mid tier D1 college QB who can properly manage a game.

Mahomes is an amazingly talented NFL QB and is probably the best game manager ever, other than maybe Brady, or Manning.
 
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SDIrishFan said:
THis is the point the talking heads, and apparently, the head coach, are missing. We as fans, understand you could run all you wanted on Purdue and that gameplan worked. But we are projecting to matchups where that plan won't work. Against good defenses who put 8 or 9 in the box and send their safeties around the end to keep the QB contained.

AND, the few times we tried to throw longer developing routes, Leonard again, couldn't do it. The only legit play he had was a decent ball to Greathouse that was called back by a penalty.
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It probably works against everyone but maybe USC , as long as they don't fall into tendencies good DCs pick up on. They need to develop some sort go to pass game to do anything more.
 
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