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Not surprising, need to expand the CB/DB board.



 
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This from 247's Mike Roach after his viewing of the Battle Las Vegas 7v7 tourney back in February.


I mentioned the name of Spanaway (Wa.) Lake cornerback Jasiah Wagoner over the weekend, and no defensive back impressed me more. Wagoner was the only defensive back able to check Johntay Cook throughout the weekend showing speed and tight coverage on the Desoto four-star. Wagoner was in the conversation as the best overall player in attendance helping to lead Heir 7v7 to the finals. Wagoner embraced the challenge of following his opponent's best receiver on every play and stood out in a setting that isn't advantageous to defensive backs. He holds 13 early offers, but those numbers should go up this spring as Wagoner looks like a guy who could be one of the top defensive backs in the country.
 

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Looking at Notre Dame’s receivers targets/commits: James, Greathouse, Flores, Gallagher, Elzy, Hanafin. It made me wonder which one(s) could do damage in the slot.

The obvious top choice would be Gallagher, imo, because of his speed and what he can do in space. I also keep going back to Greathouse. He’s a bigger body, but he could definitely be a “bully” slot. JuJu Smith a great bully slot in Pittsburgh and Claypool had a lot of success lining up in the slot at Notre Dame.

Between James, Flores, Hanafin, and Elzy, Stuckey has a lot of good options for possession receivers. Greathouse seems to have the flexibility to play multiple receiver positions.
 

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Looking at Notre Dame’s receivers targets/commits: James, Greathouse, Flores, Gallagher, Elzy, Hanafin. It made me wonder which one(s) could do damage in the slot.

The obvious top choice would be Gallagher, imo, because of his speed and what he can do in space. I also keep going back to Greathouse. He’s a bigger body, but he could definitely be a “bully” slot. JuJu Smith a great bully slot in Pittsburgh and Claypool had a lot of success lining up in the slot at Notre Dame.

Between James, Flores, Hanafin, and Elzy, Stuckey has a lot of good options for possession receivers. Greathouse seems to have the flexibility to play multiple receiver positions.
Yes. Agree 100%. Gallagher is your YAC type. Greathouse is the "I can't believe he just picked up 8 yards and 3rd and 7" receiver. I would also look at Tease at a YAC slot if we recruit him there. Some of our TEs could be big slots as well. Thinking Raridon
 

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Just listening to the 247 football recruiting podcast, and they were discussing the QBs in the '23 class. One of the interesting parts was them talking about all the dominoes left to fall, and it goes way beyond Dante Moore and Jaden Rashada. These are the guys they mentioned are uncommitted and visiting big schools, committed but looking elsewhere, or committed though the team is still looking for another. So basically all are guys who aren't set.

Chris Parson - Committed to FSU, but FSU is bringing in Rickie Collins and Brock Glenn for visits.

Rickie Collins - Committed to Purdue, but took an OV to FSU.

Brock Glenn - Considered an Auburn lean, but took OVs to Ohio State and FSU.

Austin Novosad - Committed to Baylor, but took an OV to Ohio State and might flip.

Emory Williams - Took an OV to Miami and they gave him the green light to commit, but he wants to throw for some other schools.

Also, from earlier in the podcast, talking about the OT7 League 7-on-7 tournament they mentioned that Malachi Nelson actually wasn't great and was benched. His replacement was Collin Hurst, who led them to winning the tournament and was named Tournament MVP. Collin Hurst has a single FCS offer even though, as a junior, he completed "over 70 percent of his passes for 3,267 yards with 35 touchdowns to go against just two interceptions."
 

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What do we know of Emory Williams.. Posted this in the DM thread, but better here. Miami now has 2 committed QBs
 

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Per Loy, here’s a name to watch. Possibly as a 5th DB, 3rd S.

 

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Bryan Driskell and Shaun seemed to think yesterday on a podcast that we are done at CB recruiting after getting Gray and i don't see us taking another safety unless his name is Downs from Georgia
 

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Bryan Driskell and Shaun seemed to think yesterday on a podcast that we are done at CB recruiting after getting Gray and i don't see us taking another safety unless his name is Downs from Georgia
If he runs a 10.47 then you just take him as an athlete if you have room.
 

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If he runs a 10.47 then you just take him as an athlete if you have room.
Yeah, if he has film that shows natural football skills that complement that speed then I agree.

ATH, then he can play secondary, WR or return kicks/punts for us. I wonder what his 3 cone is or his shuttle or anything that shows short yardage acceleration....that's the most important speed test for me.
 

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Tom Zbikowski and Kyle McCarthy reincarnated.

Offers from Duke, Stanford, Harvard, Army, Navy. It isn't a reach by any stretch.
 

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Loy said it’s not so there’s that, lol. I think they’re crazy if they don’t recruit more than 4 DB’s so this makes sense from purely that perspective.

I would love this offer, if they end up moving, BTW. Speed, speed, and MOAR speed.
 

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Really hope they're not looking at him because they're worried about Bowen...

It’d be shocked if they didn’t have a backup plan to Bowen. Maybe not out in the open but it seems like poor planning to expect him in the class at this stage
 

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That 10.47 was wind aided, unfortunately. His best time is 10.77, which is good but not blazing like 10.47. Also, Oklahoma offered last week.
 

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Bryan Driskell and Shaun seemed to think yesterday on a podcast that we are done at CB recruiting after getting Gray and i don't see us taking another safety unless his name is

It’d be shocked if they didn’t have a backup plan to Bowen. Maybe not out in the open but it seems like poor planning to expect him in the class at this stage
I'd say flip King Mack
Jamie U at ISD mentioned him too. He’s pretty high on him.
His film is very good for a safety prospect.
 

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In Loy’s Who’s Next article below he mentions Minich again. Says that he’s expected to be offered and he likes ND to win it.

 

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In Loy’s Who’s Next article below he mentions Minich again. Says that he’s expected to be offered and he likes ND to win it.


You have some room to take a project. Especially since it looks like Jason Moore, Downs, M'Pemba are going elsewhere.
 

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In Loy’s Who’s Next article below he mentions Minich again. Says that he’s expected to be offered and he likes ND to win it.

Anyone else new?
 

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You have some room to take a project. Especially since it looks like Jason Moore, Downs, M'Pemba are going elsewhere.
I don't know how much of a project I think he is. If rankings are to be deemed accurate then I think a low ranking can sometimes mean 1. raw and unrefined talent, a project. 2. Lack of projectable trait/s. Like lack of size, length, speed, etc. Or, 3. a combination of both.

I think Ben fits in at #2. While he has elite football speed, a 10.77 would be one of the fastest guys on our entire roster, he lacks size. Obviously, at 5'10-11, that doesn't profile as an NFL S. So, if he's not an NFL S what is he? I think 247 has this right as they have him as a low 4 star. In the right system, this is a guy that can be a quality addition to a defense. In fact, Jarrell White ended his collegiate career at 5'9-10, 200-205 and was the leading tackler from his Sniper position on Marcus Freeman's 2020 defense. Best tackler on an incredible defense but no NFL future. Hey, sign me up for that, if that is Ben's ceiling.
 

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I don't know how much of a project I think he is. If rankings are to be deemed accurate then I think a low ranking can sometimes mean 1. raw and unrefined talent, a project. 2. Lack of projectable trait/s. Like lack of size, length, speed, etc. Or, 3. a combination of both.

I think Ben fits in at #2. While he has elite football speed, a 10.77 would be one of the fastest guys on our entire roster, he lacks size. Obviously, at 5'10-11, that doesn't profile as an NFL S. So, if he's not an NFL S what is he? I think 247 has this right as they have him as a low 4 star. In the right system, this is a guy that can be a quality addition to a defense. In fact, Jarrell White ended his collegiate career at 5'9-10, 200-205 and was the leading tackler from his Sniper position on Marcus Freeman's 2020 defense. Best tackler on an incredible defense but no NFL future. Hey, sign me up for that, if that is Ben's ceiling.

Even when we are doing such a good job getting high end talent you still need guys that project to be solid program guys peppered throughout the depth chart that can do lots of things and help build your culture. This kid appears to be a perfect example of that.
 

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I don't know how much of a project I think he is. If rankings are to be deemed accurate then I think a low ranking can sometimes mean 1. raw and unrefined talent, a project. 2. Lack of projectable trait/s. Like lack of size, length, speed, etc. Or, 3. a combination of both.

I think Ben fits in at #2. While he has elite football speed, a 10.77 would be one of the fastest guys on our entire roster, he lacks size. Obviously, at 5'10-11, that doesn't profile as an NFL S. So, if he's not an NFL S what is he? I think 247 has this right as they have him as a low 4 star. In the right system, this is a guy that can be a quality addition to a defense. In fact, Jarrell White ended his collegiate career at 5'9-10, 200-205 and was the leading tackler from his Sniper position on Marcus Freeman's 2020 defense. Best tackler on an incredible defense but no NFL future. Hey, sign me up for that, if that is Ben's ceiling.

Work in progress more like it than project.
 
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