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Old 07-11-2019, 03:47 PM   #8
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I like it. It doesn't take effect until 2023, which gives the NCAA three years to get their **** together in implementing some name/likeness benefits for athletes.

In turn, THIS WILL GIVE US THE NCAA FOOTBALL VIDEO GAME BACK.

DO IT TO IT. SHOUTOUTS TO CALI.
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:57 PM   #9
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The current system is total bullsh*t towards athletes in revenue sports. It is un-American that they cannot earn their free market value. It would be one thing if coaching staffs weren't making $10mil+ but there is a ton of money being allocated everywhere but into the pockets of the people who most deserve it.

The NCAA could have a legitimate amateurism model if they did away with corporate sponsorships, actually enforced uniform academic standards, etc. But they don't. So what you have is a cartel operating under a loophole to keep wages artificially suppressed for the labor.

Right now, the cheaters are the ones who persevere. The first step to fixing that is take all the money out of the shadows.
For some fraction it's about cost suppression. For the rest it's about some semblance of competitive balance. It will be interesting to see what the arms race does to the bottom half of the FBS.
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In turn, THIS WILL GIVE US THE NCAA FOOTBALL VIDEO GAME BACK.

DO IT TO IT. SHOUTOUTS TO CALI.
and prob kills ND football forever...
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Old 07-11-2019, 04:22 PM   #11
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For some fraction it's about cost suppression. For the rest it's about some semblance of competitive balance. It will be interesting to see what the arms race does to the bottom half of the FBS.
If there was a fair system, it would mandate the following:
-4 years to play, period. No 5th years.
-Must be a full time student each semester to be eligible.
-Independent NCAA auditors at each school reviewing coursework for players. Standardized punishments for plagiarism, cheating, etc. across all schools.
-Independent NCAA auditors at each school administering the same, standardized random drug tests using the NFL model or equivalent.
-Players are allowed to receive compensation put into a trust fund. They receive this compensation upon graduation. If they do not graduate within 5 years of being enrolled, the compensation is forfeited to the school's general scholarship fund.
-Players can take a monthly disbursement of a low amount (say, $2000) from their trust fund while a full time student.
-Players with a 3.0 GPA or better can transfer without having to sit out a year. Players with below a 3.0 must sit a year. NO WAIVERS, NO GRAD TRANSFERS.

This is how you get student athletes to be *real students* while also letting them get a share of the pie they earned. The cost would be roughly $100k per school to afford the auditors.
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These kids at major football factories are already playing "semi-pro" football. The good ones get money under the table and extra benefits. The ones that don't make the cut get pushed out. Education is an afterthought at best. Kids are essentially forced to take PEDs in order to keep up with their competition. Is there anything amateur about any of this? It is just one more nail in the coffin in major college sports.
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Whole thing is a fluster F that only opens the door for above table bagmen. Why do professional athletes need to be college material? Get a D-League for NFL and NBA and leave college for students first. Will never happen b/c would ruin the "product" not having Zion or pick a 5 star football recruit to juice ratings.
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If there was a fair system, it would mandate the following:
-4 years to play, period. No 5th years.
-Must be a full time student each semester to be eligible.
-Independent NCAA auditors at each school reviewing coursework for players. Standardized punishments for plagiarism, cheating, etc. across all schools.
-Independent NCAA auditors at each school administering the same, standardized random drug tests using the NFL model or equivalent.
-Players are allowed to receive compensation put into a trust fund. They receive this compensation upon graduation. If they do not graduate within 5 years of being enrolled, the compensation is forfeited to the school's general scholarship fund.
-Players can take a monthly disbursement of a low amount (say, $2000) from their trust fund while a full time student.
-Players with a 3.0 GPA or better can transfer without having to sit out a year. Players with below a 3.0 must sit a year. NO WAIVERS, NO GRAD TRANSFERS.

This is how you get student athletes to be *real students* while also letting them get a share of the pie they earned. The cost would be roughly $100k per school to afford the auditors.
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Whole thing is a fluster F that only opens the door for above table bagmen. Why do professional athletes need to be college material? Get a D-League for NFL and NBA and leave college for students first. Will never happen b/c would ruin the "product" not having Zion or pick a 5 star football recruit to juice ratings.
Bottom line... money. If they wanted to fix it they could. It's just like this stupid playoff... 'true champion' has nothing to do with it, fixing CFB has nothing to do with it, but the money sure looked good to the powers that be didn't it?
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