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Old 04-14-2019, 05:48 AM   #967
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Bro she didn't just "use the Force." She 1v1ed Ben Solo.
Ben Solo was also a relatively new force user, severely wounded, and not trying to kill her.
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:55 AM   #968
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Ben Solo was also a relatively new force user, severely wounded, and not trying to kill her.
Sorry, I wasn't talking about the fight on Starkiller Base. I'm talking about her resisting him in the interrogation room.
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:07 AM   #969
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I'll also add that from a writing perspective, it's quite a bit more preposterous to have a character strapped in a chair in a military facility, have her need to 1v1 a trained Sith, and then jedi mind trick an individual flawlessly on her first attempt, than it is to hand wave away a mild film contrivance like Anakin winning a pod race because he has some natural "luck" that comes with being a force user.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:02 AM   #970
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We don't know how strong Rey's connection to the Force is. She could have Yoda level Force powers that are still developing. Not every Force user has the same connection to the Force, some are stronger than others. I agree that it's a bit far fetched that she was able to resist Kylo's mind probe, but she may have far stronger a connection to the Force than Kylo. We don't know her backstory, and it's possible she had prior Jedi training that we don't know about. She could have been mind wiped like Revan in the Old Republic (Although unlikely since she was on Jakku from a young age).

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A mind probe was a Force power which allowed the user to search the thoughts of others.[5][6] It was possible to resist this ability using the Force, and if the one resisting was powerful enough, one could turn the effects of the probe around and manage a look into the mind of the user.

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I'll also add that from a writing perspective, it's quite a bit more preposterous to have a character strapped in a chair in a military facility, have her need to 1v1 a trained Sith, and then jedi mind trick an individual flawlessly on her first attempt, than it is to hand wave away a mild film contrivance like Anakin winning a pod race because he has some natural "luck" that comes with being a force user.
That could be the first force sensitive person Kylo ever tried that one. There aren't many left. Maybe it's much tougher than doing it to a regular joe, or to stormtroopers who are basically high functioning mentally challenged people.
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One of the theories going around that I kind of like is that Luke really was The Last Jedi, and now Rey will *become* a 'skywalker,' aka someone who travels across the galaxy (walks the skies) to use/teach the Force in a balanced manner, rather than in the white-and-black of Jedi-vs-Sith.

I like it because:

1. This is still the Skywalker saga, and Luke has a part to finish playing

2. Rey is a 'skywalker' in the proper sense, answering the shortcomings of the true Skywalkers

3. It backs up the idea that in the entire universe, the battle for balancing the Force shouldn't keep coming back to the same elite but flawed bloodline... a relative nobody can rise and generate balance in ways that the old masters/apprentices could not
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One of the theories going around that I kind of like is that Luke really was The Last Jedi, and now Rey will *become* a 'skywalker,' aka someone who travels across the galaxy (walks the skies) to use/teach the Force in a balanced manner, rather than in the white-and-black of Jedi-vs-Sith.

I like it because:

1. This is still the Skywalker saga, and Luke has a part to finish playing

2. Rey is a 'skywalker' in the proper sense, answering the shortcomings of the true Skywalkers

3. It backs up the idea that in the entire universe, the battle for balancing the Force shouldn't keep coming back to the same elite but flawed bloodline... a relative nobody can rise and generate balance in ways that the old masters/apprentices could not
Thanks, I hate it. This is the flipside of the "Everyone important is a secret Targ" fan theory from ASoS.
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