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Old 04-15-2019, 11:13 AM   #974
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Thanks, I hate it. This is the flipside of the "Everyone important is a secret Targ" fan theory from GRRM.
You hate the theory, or the idea that the Force and the fate of the galaxy should keep coming back to a single, flawed family?
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Old 04-15-2019, 11:20 AM   #975
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You hate the theory, or the idea that the Force and the fate of the galaxy should keep coming back to a single, flawed family?
Star Wars is thematically much more fantasy than science fiction, so genealogy has to matter. It can definitely be overemphasized (which the series may be guilty of); but the opposite extreme--no one is special, there's no Providence (f*cking midichorians), etc.--is a much quicker way to send your fantasy series directly into the dumpster.
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Old 04-15-2019, 11:31 AM   #976
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Star Wars is thematically much more fantasy than science fiction, so genealogy has to matter. It can definitely be overemphasized (which the series may be guilty of); but the opposite extreme--no one is special, there's no Providence (f*cking midichorians), etc.--is a much quicker way to send your fantasy series directly into the dumpster.
I don't think the theory is totally erasing the importance of genealogy, but it IS saying that you don't have to be a Skywalker to make a difference.

I think Luke's role as 'The One' could still be served by being the master that finally recognizes the flaw in the hard-line Jedi teachings... trying to ignore the dark side, and pushing fear/anger/hate deep down inside is flawed and dangerous in its own way.

I think he knows that, and TLJ was kind of hinting at that. He wasn't just a hermit running from his mistakes... he was running from the revelation that the Jedi order just doesn't work anymore.

I think he will teach Rey, probably with guidance/blessing from Yoda, that both sides of the Force, and all ranges of emotion, are necessary in achieving true balance (duh).

It maintains the importance of Luke and Vader, and maintains the idea that they had helped bring balance to the Force in a roundabout way.

If Rey ends up being a hidden member of the bloodline, I'll be kind of bummed just because it means there was some sort of mind-wipe or something, and that feels like a worse copout than anything, to me.
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If Rey ends up being a hidden member of the bloodline, I'll be kind of bummed just because it means there was some sort of mind-wipe or something, and that feels like a worse copout than anything, to me.
Why is a mind wipe necessary? Luke could have hidden her on Tatooine as baby, just as Obi-wan did for him. Fits with the lack-of-imagination, over-the-top fan service, and the "let's just remake the original trilogy" angles too.
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Why is a mind wipe necessary? Luke could have hidden her on Tatooine as baby, just as Obi-wan did for him. Fits with the lack-of-imagination, over-the-top fan service, and the "let's just remake the original trilogy" angles too.
She was shown crying for her family when they left, unless you mean she was left as an orphan even before that, in which case that would be better.

I still contend that it would be a weak revelation, though, or at least based on the way they've set it up.
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