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vBookie Event: CFP National Championship: #3 Clemson Tigers vs #1 LSU Tigers (NCAAF)
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CFP National Championship: #3 Clemson Tigers vs #1 LSU Tigers (NCAAF)

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Outcome Odds Total Bets Total Staked
Clemson +5.5 1/1 (1.00) 2 5000400000000113  
LSU -5.5 1/1 (1.00) 8 9223372036854775807 WIN!
Over 69.5 Total Points 1/1 (1.00) 1 100000000000000  
Under 69.5 Total Points 1/1 (1.00) 2 2000000020000000 WIN!
Clemson Wins 188/100 (1.88) 0 0  
LSU Wins 100/225 F (0.44) 4 150100500050001013 WIN!
1st Half Clemson +3.5 1/1 (1.00) 0 0  
1st Half LSU -3.5 1/1 (1.00) 2 100400000000000 WIN!
1st Half Over 34.5 Total Points 1/1 (1.00) 0 0 WIN!
1st Half Under 34.5 Total Points 1/1 (1.00) 1 100000000000000  
1st Half Clemson Leads 170/100 (1.70) 0 0  
1st Half LSU Leads 100/200 (0.50) 2 101000000000000 WIN!
1st TD Scored:Clyde Edwards-Helaire 500/100 (5.00) 0 0  
1st TD Scored: Travis Etienne 500/100 (5.00) 1 3000000000000000  
1st TD Scored: Ja'Marr Chase 650/100 (6.50) 0 0  
1st TD Scored: Tee Higgins 700/100 (7.00) 0 0  
1st TD Scored: Justin Jefferson 900/100 (9.00) 0 0  
1st TD Scored: Trevor Lawerence 900/100 (9.00) 1 100000000000000 WIN!
1st TD Scored: Justyn Ross 1200/100 (12.00) 2 422000000000  
1st TD Scored: Joe Burrow 1250/100 (12.50) 3 200125000000000  
1st TD Scored: Terrace Marshall Jr. 1300/100 (13.00) 0 0  
1st TD Scored: Field 1400/100 (14.00) 0 0  

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Old 01-14-2020, 08:26 AM   #148
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It's funny. I was looking at LSU's recruiting rankings last night and thinking about this.

The LSU team that played last night was - on paper anyway - no more talented than the LSU team we beat in 2017. Actually the exact same average recruiting ranking, per 247.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Fo...lentComposite/
https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Fo...lentComposite/

Obvs recruiting rankings aren't everything. But it's remarkable what a QB and some good coaching can mean for a team.
Ok but look at 5 stars.
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Old 01-14-2020, 08:32 AM   #149
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Obvs recruiting rankings aren't everything. But it's remarkable what a QB and some good coaching can mean for a team.
That's pretty much my point. This LSU team is basically the same team we played and beat (roughly same quality recruits, same HC, same DC) but made two key changes (great QB, forward-thinking OC) and now they are a juggernaut. That doesn't mean it's going to be that simple for ND but it's a good illustration of how fast a change can occur.
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Best 2 years in the past 20 years for ND Football. Which is fantastic. Don't get me wrong. However other programs are just better. No matter how good ND gets. If you think we are close to what was on TV tonight.. Well. I guess I can't help you.
No one is saying we are close to their level of play right now. They have Joe Burrow and a great OC. We don't. But that's the point. Change can happen fast and its not like a team needs to completely change everything to go from top 12 to NC.
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Ok but look at 5 stars.
LSU two more five-stars this year than they did in 2017. So, better. But I'm not sure two five stars account for six more wins.

To be clear, my point is not that we have equal talent to LSU. Clearly we don't. My point is that LSU found a better QB (on the scrap heap) and improved their coaching (without changing head coach or coordinators) enough to go from 9-4 to national champions in 24 months. Aside from those two things I'm not sure their team is all that different than the one that played us in the Citrus Bowl two years ago.
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Boy Lawrence looks pissed.

I feel sorry for whoever has to play him next year.
Joe Klatt was talking about Lawrence and the Clemson O. He felt their easy schedule hurt them, because they run a pretty vanilla O where Lawrence just waits on the receiver to come open. Not having to face much pressure from the D line he just waited and hit the open receiver. LSU's D (pressure and coverage) forced him to move around and make quicker decisions. Clemson's OC didn't have an answer.

This was something of a "perfect storm" LSU team. LSU will remain good, but it will be difficult to replicate this year, especially without Burrow.
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This was something of a "perfect storm" LSU team. LSU will remain good, but it will be difficult to replicate this year, especially without Burrow.
This is the definitely going to be interesting to see, because there's a good chance that LSU goes back to being a 10 win-ish team in the future since they don't have Burrow and he played out of his mind down the stretch. But there's also a decent chance that Coach O pulls a Dabo and successfully applies his "culture" approach to the incoming classes and contends for the immediate future.
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