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Old 01-13-2020, 05:56 PM   #1849
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:00 PM   #1850
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Yes I'm willing to part with Hudson, though we should remember that he's still a good starter even if his peripherals show that he benefited more from the defense than a normal pitcher. Then again, the groundball is his game. It's also supposed to be a better fit for Coors field.

Dak, O'Neill, perhaps Car Mart and another guy. Definitely gonna be 3 or 4 players going to Coors, but it's intermittent whether Nolan Gorman or Liberatore are actually going to Colorado. I'm selfish and hoping that Cards keep Liberatore.
Sounds like Gorman may be off the table. I hope he isn't traded because Fowler isn't that far from being done and Gorman could step right into RF. I would be okay with giving up Liberatore because it's essentially trading Jose Martinez and Arozarena. But top 50 lefty starter prospects don't grow on trees. Arenado's opt out clause makes this deal complicated and definitely deflates the value the Rockies will get in return. But if Arenado has 2 amazing seasons and bolts in free agency, then it'll end up being a win for the Cards anyway. They'll get out of a huge financial commitment for 5 additional years and probably will be legit WS contenders during his 2 huge years.

If they trade Hudson, I hope they keep Carlos Martinez. He'll need to slot into the rotation unless they pick up a back-of-the-rotation arm in the deal. Flaherty-Mikolas-Martinez-Waino-Kim. Use a closer-by-committee approach until Hicks comes back.
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:11 PM   #1851
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Sounds like Gorman may be off the table. I hope he isn't traded because Fowler isn't that far from being done and Gorman could step right into RF. I would be okay with giving up Liberatore because it's essentially trading Jose Martinez and Arozarena. But top 50 lefty starter prospects don't grow on trees. Arenado's opt out clause makes this deal complicated and definitely deflates the value the Rockies will get in return. But if Arenado has 2 amazing seasons and bolts in free agency, then it'll end up being a win for the Cards anyway. They'll get out of a huge financial commitment for 5 additional years and probably will be legit WS contenders during his 2 huge years.

If they trade Hudson, I hope they keep Carlos Martinez. He'll need to slot into the rotation unless they pick up a back-of-the-rotation arm in the deal. Flaherty-Mikolas-Martinez-Waino-Kim. Use a closer-by-committee approach until Hicks comes back.
I think you're confusing Carlson for Gorman. Carlson is the AAA OF who will spend some time in St Louis this upcoming year. Gorman is in A or AA and the 3B power hitter.

Apparently the front office and staff are committed to making CarMart a starter again, so you're right that they'd need to immediately replace him. Dak could probably be switched with Austin Gomber.

According to Passan, the talks aren't going anywhere right now. Maybe this happens around spring training, but as of now it looks like it won't proceed.
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As much as I like seeing the Stros and Sux get hit,... I think it's kind of crazy. Sign stealing has been a thing forever. We tried to steal signs on every team I played on starting in little league. EVERY team steals signs if they can... there is no actual rule against it. Everyone is all indignant because a few teams went the extra mile with it... that's my two cents.
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As much as I like seeing the Stros and Sux get hit,... I think it's kind of crazy. Sign stealing has been a thing forever. We tried to steal signs on every team I played on starting in little league. EVERY team steals signs if they can... there is no actual rule against it. Everyone is all indignant because a few teams went the extra mile with it... that's my two cents.
The difference between a guy at second or a basecoach stealing signs and the Astros using the videos from the replay to decipher what the signs are, then warn their batters while in the box which pitches are coming is pretty massive. Plus teams were warned in 2017 not to do this, the Astros ignored that.
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