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Old 01-13-2019, 09:06 PM   #22
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Unless there is someone on the board that can provide behind the scenes unbiased info, I can't begin to be upset over this. Long tenure these days is a rarity if it's not a union type situation. Might be a good thing for him, and/or for ND. Might not. Sometimes things don't work out, and people need to go on to new things. This doesn't scream to me of anything that bad. Not always a fan of JS, but it's a job, and sometimes changes happen. I wish him luck and success. An I truly appreciate all he's done. I'm sure he can do great things elsewhere if that's what he desires.
i am upset. I had an employee who worked at my plant for 40 years. This person had medical issues, but also was just not that good at his job. I could have very easily fired him for not being able to do the job, but I didn't because the man WORKED 40 YEARS AT THE SAME PLACE! He passed away this fall. At his funeral over half of the eulogy was about how he felt at worked. Sometimes you have to do what is right - not just what you have to do to make money.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:47 PM   #23
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Long tenures are quite common at ND, and not only among faculty..
Long tenures can be good and bad. When they are good, it's great to embrace. When it's not so good or bad, it's just a tough situation. Overall, unions, schools, and other areas where long tenure is common place, are not the norm in today's work place. We talk all the time about embracing change, and using competition to bring out peak performance. How can we use those analogies one place, and discount them in another.

Again, I don't know the situation, but without detail, I can't get cast a stone one way or another.

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i am upset. I had an employee who worked at my plant for 40 years. This person had medical issues, but also was just not that good at his job. I could have very easily fired him for not being able to do the job, but I didn't because the man WORKED 40 YEARS AT THE SAME PLACE! He passed away this fall. At his funeral over half of the eulogy was about how he felt at worked. Sometimes you have to do what is right - not just what you have to do to make money.
I've had many bosses, and thousands of employees in my 25 years of working. I don't know his situation or why the decision was made. I'm guessing, no one on the board does either. I do know, I've had many situations where employees with many years became complacent, didn't like new direction, didn't perform well when duties changed, etc.. And, I've had many employees with long years change for the better with new duties, or new leadership, or new direction. I just think it's unfair to judge a situation when we don't have facts.

The situation you speak of above is very different. I've rewarded loyalty and service over the years a plenty. I've also had to make some very tough decisions to go in a different direction. Just about every situation is unique. And I'm sure this one is not as simple as a crappy AD cutting a long time employee.
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i am upset. I had an employee who worked at my plant for 40 years. This person had medical issues, but also was just not that good at his job. I could have very easily fired him for not being able to do the job, but I didn't because the man WORKED 40 YEARS AT THE SAME PLACE! He passed away this fall. At his funeral over half of the eulogy was about how he felt at worked. Sometimes you have to do what is right - not just what you have to do to make money.
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There weren't a variety of feelings about him, nor was he polarizing. He wrote articles like this and this and this. Interesting, inoffensive, etc., items about ND athletics. He was an ND institution and Swarbrick mishandled this badly.



Long tenures are quite common at ND, and not only among faculty.



SEC ties? Because he went to Mizzou? "Rid ourselves of something"? Appallingly cheap way of discussing an older man who has worked for ND for a long time.
If you know, then please explain. Cheap, Is the ridiculous manner our program has been infiltrated and takin advantage of. I hope he had nothing to do with the bad publicity.... But he seems to be the one who gave the publicity.....

People do get fired for frivolous reasons. Corporations do get sued for frivolous firings. I'm sure JS had enough, and his interview told me this much a few weeks ago.
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I just want to know if he got to keep his red stapler.

The pro side is plenty vocal - I wouldn't doubt he has been a leaker for years which has led to more an more marginalization. Can be hard to prove leading to a long dance. To say it is about money is comical. Also to say he "is not of retirement age" is silly for someone finishing 41 years on the job. One year at Mizzou prior to ND would put him at minimum 22+42 = 64
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It's my understanding he kept a lot of people on the fence or pulled them back to the fence when Declan Sullivan died tragically. He had a way of keeping people in check with regards to ND. Did a lot for the image of the athletic program, athletic department, school, etc.

I have a lot of ND books where he has written the forward or contributed in some way. I'm sure he'll be missed by those closer to the school and athletic offices. Ultimately, as fans, do we miss this terribly?

I don't really know what to make of how or why he was let go, but after some checking, I really have not seen a bad word about him thus far.

Comes as a shock, especially for a fan base that doesn't exactly handle change well.
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