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Old 10-25-2018, 12:26 PM   #1310
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Think about this crazy fact from the Kelly era... the LT for his entire tenure has been an *ELITE* NFL caliber lineman.

ZMart -> Ronnie Stanley -> Mike McGlinchey. Nothing but top NFL draft picks. We have been absolutely spoiled at that position. I'm not sure if there is an "heir apparent" on the current roster... do we have anyone of that quality/upside to be a top 10ish NFL draft pick?
Whoi really knows. Did anyone think that McG was going to be Top 10 pick? He had early (and even a few late) struggles.

Patterson's highlights were really really good against well coached and talented programs. He's got a shot but he's "just" 6-5.

The one that confuses me is Lugg. A LOT of guys who know their stuff thought he was the #2 or #3 OL the week of The Opening behind Walker Little and swapping spots with Foster Sarrell... some days he was the standout. But HH moved him inside just like he did Bars who HAD a prototype OT body before they retooled him for inside duty.

HH was great but in all his time he landed 2 guys who were, and remained OT's... McG and Bivin. The offers Quinn has out shows he likes high end 6-6/6-7/6-8 OT's. He also knows the value of athletic, big TE's who so often transform into high caliber OT's as he was the OL coach for Joe Staley's college development.
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Old 10-25-2018, 12:31 PM   #1311
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Think about this crazy fact from the Kelly era... the LT for his entire tenure has been an *ELITE* NFL caliber lineman.

ZMart -> Ronnie Stanley -> Mike McGlinchey. Nothing but top NFL draft picks. We have been absolutely spoiled at that position. I'm not sure if there is an "heir apparent" on the current roster... do we have anyone of that quality/upside to be a top 10ish NFL draft pick?
Top 10? Too early to tell, but Eichenberg has looked better and better each week. He's got huge upside too.
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2 Florida
3 Wisconsin
4 Oklahoma
5 Arizona
6 Missouri
7 Clemson
8 Iowa
9 Purdue
10 Mississippi State
11 Pittsburgh
12 Wake Forest
13 Georgia
14 Washington State
15 Texas
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43 Miami-FL
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50 Notre Dame
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52 Michigan State
53 Maryland
54 LSU
55 Colorado
56 Kansas State
57 Texas A&M
58 USC
59 Louisville
60 Northwestern
61 Stanford
62 Oregon State
63 Kansas
64 Florida State
65 Tennessee

Just as an FYI, here are the 9 remaining playoff contenders and their OLine rankings...

1 Alabama
4 Oklahoma
7 Clemson
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14 Washington St
24 Ohio State
28 West Virginia
39 Michigan
50 Notre Dame

ND needs to improve in a hurry because a lot of these teams are winning in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
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1 Alabama
2 Florida
3 Wisconsin
4 Oklahoma
5 Arizona
6 Missouri
7 Clemson
8 Iowa
9 Purdue
10 Mississippi State
11 Pittsburgh
12 Wake Forest
13 Georgia
14 Washington State
15 Texas
16 Arkansas
17 TCU
18 Nebraska
19 Ole Miss
20 California
21 Syracuse
22 Kentucky
23 Penn State
24 Ohio State
25 Minnesota
26 Oregon
27 Virginia
28 West Virginia
29 Indiana
30 Baylor
31 South Carolina
32 Georgia Tech
33 Washington
34 Arizona State
35 Rutgers
36 Illinois
37 Utah
38 UCLA
39 Michigan
40 Virginia Tech
41 Auburn
42 NC State
43 Miami-FL
44 Boston College
45 Vanderbilt
46 Texas Tech
47 Duke
48 Iowa State
49 Oklahoma State
50 Notre Dame
51 North Carolina
52 Michigan State
53 Maryland
54 LSU
55 Colorado
56 Kansas State
57 Texas A&M
58 USC
59 Louisville
60 Northwestern
61 Stanford
62 Oregon State
63 Kansas
64 Florida State
65 Tennessee

Just as an FYI, here are the 9 remaining playoff contenders and their OLine rankings...

1 Alabama
4 Oklahoma
7 Clemson
13 Georgia
14 Washington St
24 Ohio State
28 West Virginia
39 Michigan
50 Notre Dame

ND needs to improve in a hurry because a lot of these teams are winning in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
These "advanced stats" thingies are great and all but I promise you if you give Kevin Sumlin the option of keeping his "#5 ranked" OL or trading straight up for Quinn and ND's "#50 OL", he picks Quinn and the gold lids 11 times out of 10. The same goes for Odom, Brohm, Leach and the majority of the teams ranked above them.
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Two ND guys at the top... and #3 somehow got away.

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#3 got away because he wanted to play tackle. I can't remember if he played much at Auburn or if they stuck him at guard
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1 Alabama
2 Florida
3 Wisconsin
4 Oklahoma
5 Arizona
6 Missouri
7 Clemson
8 Iowa
9 Purdue
10 Mississippi State
11 Pittsburgh
12 Wake Forest
13 Georgia
14 Washington State
15 Texas
16 Arkansas
17 TCU
18 Nebraska
19 Ole Miss
20 California
21 Syracuse
22 Kentucky
23 Penn State
24 Ohio State
25 Minnesota
26 Oregon
27 Virginia
28 West Virginia
29 Indiana
30 Baylor
31 South Carolina
32 Georgia Tech
33 Washington
34 Arizona State
35 Rutgers
36 Illinois
37 Utah
38 UCLA
39 Michigan
40 Virginia Tech
41 Auburn
42 NC State
43 Miami-FL
44 Boston College
45 Vanderbilt
46 Texas Tech
47 Duke
48 Iowa State
49 Oklahoma State
50 Notre Dame
51 North Carolina
52 Michigan State
53 Maryland
54 LSU
55 Colorado
56 Kansas State
57 Texas A&M
58 USC
59 Louisville
60 Northwestern
61 Stanford
62 Oregon State
63 Kansas
64 Florida State
65 Tennessee

Just as an FYI, here are the 9 remaining playoff contenders and their OLine rankings...

1 Alabama
4 Oklahoma
7 Clemson
13 Georgia
14 Washington St
24 Ohio State
28 West Virginia
39 Michigan
50 Notre Dame

ND needs to improve in a hurry because a lot of these teams are winning in the trenches on both sides of the ball.
Sorry, but Football Outsiders should stay outside. That list is a joke.

Also, IMO Liam Eichenberg will end up a high NFL pick....maybe not first round...but definitely no later than 2nd day if he stays healthy.

McG goes in the top ten, but does anyone remember his 2016 season. He wished he was as good as Liam was this year

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