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Old 10-09-2019, 11:13 AM   #757
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I'm fine with Kerr (or any NBA player) being called a douche bag, its no skin off my back. I'm just saying if you apply the above standard to every company or individual in the public sphere, you're going to find it hard to find anyone who's not a douchebag.

In general I'm trying to get away from the internet thing of calling out hypocrisy of individuals on issues like this. I think the fear to be caught in a contradiction from prior statements or positions has a chilling effect on people trying to express their ideas. (Ironically the only people who won't be afraid of being called out as hypocrites are genuine trolls who don't care, which just means they get more of the market share on takes being spewed.)

BTW you're already seeing something similar with the Chinese nationalist tweeting about the NBA. "Oh, so when a GM says something bad about China's government and country it's free speech and needs to be protected, but Donald Sterling says that he doesn't like black culture and he needs to be banned for life." It's hilarious how this mindset is being weaponized.
Also note that I said I'm willing to give "individuals" a pass on this stuff. Not so much corporations.

A lib/conservative trying to muddle through how they feel about topics by expressing themselves and occasionally contradicting themselves or being cowardly in a particular setting = Usually good. Everyone does this.

Nike/Disney trying to commoditize human rights = Satan
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Old 10-09-2019, 11:52 AM   #758
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I'm fine with Kerr (or any NBA player) being called a douche bag, its no skin off my back. I'm just saying if you apply the above standard to every company or individual in the public sphere, you're going to find it hard to find anyone who's not a douchebag.

In general I'm trying to get away from the internet thing of calling out hypocrisy of individuals on issues like this. I think the fear to be caught in a contradiction from prior statements or positions has a chilling effect on people trying to express their ideas. (Ironically the only people who won't be afraid of being called out as hypocrites are genuine trolls who don't care, which just means they get more of the market share on takes being spewed.)

BTW you're already seeing something similar with the Chinese nationalist tweeting about the NBA. "Oh, so when a GM says something bad about China's government and country it's free speech and needs to be protected, but Donald Sterling says that he doesn't like black culture and he needs to be banned for life." It's hilarious how this mindset is being weaponized.
I think the point w/ Kerr is that he goes out of his way in a very proud manner to rant about gun control, Trump is racist, etc. That’s fine & is his right but don’t insult the public’s intelligence by playing dumb about China. There may not be consensus in America about gun control or Trump but I bet you can get a large majority of Americans to agree that China is a consistent violator of human rights for generations and there’s little hope that will change.

Is everyone a hypocrite at some point? Sure. But not everyone gets on national television to use their platform to go off subject about something they want to weigh in on. It’s one thing to grab the “trump is racist” low hanging fruit...but he looks like a coward now when he goes all Helen Keller when asked about an obvious topic that he knew would be coming.

As far as the players...meh...they’ll all pretty predictable when it comes to social issues so I’m not surprised on their silence. But Kerr & Popovich come off as bitches.

Jemele Hill had a good take on this topic IMO on Jake Tapper’s show last night. I’m not tech savvy enough to post the video but it’s out there for all to see. She agrees it’s a fair point to point to all the American companies doing the same thing...but again, they're not shooting their mouth off on “feel good” topics that are still devisive so the issue w/ the NBA is more nuanced.

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Time to start an NBA boycott. Remember when we used to stand for freedom in this country?
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The NBA dipped their toe into politics when they had the fiasco over the All Star game and Carolina with the LGBT protests and now they want to tip toe.

We all know it's about the money. The NBA has an opportunity here to place themselves above all other pro sports and take a stand on humanitarian rights, but they won't. Can you imagine the great publicity they would get? How much is that worth? Imagine the public pressure China would feel from the rest of the world. The NBA needs to pull out of China and let them squirm.

LeBron, Kerr, Popovich, how come you're being quiet?
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