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Old 01-10-2019, 11:27 AM   #57
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I have an open position I'm filling. I posted the job on Indeed. While I'm getting my share of resumes from those that don't qualify (I don't blame them for trying) what surprised me the most is how little time people stay in their job. Even those that meet the qualifications have only stayed in a job for a year before moving on. I would venture to say 90% of the resumes are like this.

By looking at the education dates and previous jobs, almost everyone that has responded is a millennial. What the hell is wrong with these kids?
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:44 AM   #58
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I have an open position I'm filling. I posted the job on Indeed. While I'm getting my share of resumes from those that don't qualify (I don't blame them for trying) what surprised me the most is how little time people stay in their job. Even those that meet the qualifications have only stayed in a job for a year before moving on. I would venture to say 90% of the resumes are like this.

By looking at the education dates and previous jobs, almost everyone that has responded is a millennial. What the hell is wrong with these kids?
Speaking from my experience, companies don't do much to retain employees anymore. Ever since I was in high school, my parents were telling me that the days of people being a "lifer" are pretty much done. If your company does a good job of paying their employees well, you'll probably do decently. But many don't, for instance my company. It's basically "if you want to get paid more, you better leave or find a new job in the company, otherwise you'll be paid this much forever." The only way many young'ns find to actually improve their pay is to move from company to company.

So nothing is at all wrong with these kids.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:04 PM   #59
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Speaking from my experience, companies don't do much to retain employees anymore. Ever since I was in high school, my parents were telling me that the days of people being a "lifer" are pretty much done. If your company does a good job of paying their employees well, you'll probably do decently. But many don't, for instance my company. It's basically "if you want to get paid more, you better leave or find a new job in the company, otherwise you'll be paid this much forever." The only way many young'ns find to actually improve their pay is to move from company to company.

So nothing is at all wrong with these kids.
Most companies aren't loyal to their employees so they don't deserve, nor should they expect, loyalty in return.

The other issue is that millennials, at least a large number of them in urban areas, do not have mortgages or car payments so they are far more mobile than previous generations.
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Some of that can be explained by their youth and inexperience, but millennials have other problems. Many graduated into a recession, which research has shown is likely to be a lifetime drain on their average earnings. Despite being the largest generation in the U.S. workforce, they make on average 20% less than boomers did at the same age.
http://fortune.com/2017/03/29/millennials-income-chart/
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Speaking from my experience, companies don't do much to retain employees anymore. Ever since I was in high school, my parents were telling me that the days of people being a "lifer" are pretty much done. If your company does a good job of paying their employees well, you'll probably do decently. But many don't, for instance my company. It's basically "if you want to get paid more, you better leave or find a new job in the company, otherwise you'll be paid this much forever." The only way many young'ns find to actually improve their pay is to move from company to company.

So nothing is at all wrong with these kids.

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Most companies aren't loyal to their employees so they don't deserve, nor should they expect, loyalty in return.

The other issue is that millennials, at least a large number of them in urban areas, do not have mortgages or car payments so they are far more mobile than previous generations.

Trust me, I understand there is no loyalty either way. Everyone has to lookout for themselves. Nothing wrong with these kids? I don't buy it totally. Not sure how old your parents are, but people haven't been lifers for a long long time. They've moved from company to company to get a better salary for as long as I can remember, but they weren't leaving after just a year which is my point. If you keep moving every year the amount of salary you gain isn't going to be that great and at some point the hiring manager won't want to hire you knowing they will have to go through the hiring process again in just a year. At least give it 2-3 years to let something develop.
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Just to give my personal experience, it took some time to find a job after graduation. In my interview with my first company, I was told that it was dead-end and that the pay increase would only be marginal, if at all. I was desperate so I took the opportunity and stayed for a year. At my current job, I've been here for over 2 years, and was expecting a merit increase, because I'd heard this company likes to reward their employees. Well that changed, and my increase was for less than inflation, in addition to me being given 2.5 to 3 times more work for the rest of the year. It was also fairly plainly stated that if I wanted to make more money, I'd need to move and switch to a different part of the company, requiring me to learn new skills. Meaning that I effectively would be needing a new job. Not everybody has a job like this, but I'm far from the only guy with this kinda personal experience.

Does your company do a good job of retaining employees? I know that you've mentioned your troublesome employee many times in the Rant Thread, but how about everybody else? Do people tend to stay for a long time? On my first day at my current place, the median number of years people had been working here was 10 or more. But my company has cheaped out and has been slowly losing more and more of their veterans. Millennials DO watch this stuff, we're not all dog-crazed wandering travel junkies.
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I have an open position I'm filling. I posted the job on Indeed. While I'm getting my share of resumes from those that don't qualify (I don't blame them for trying) what surprised me the most is how little time people stay in their job. Even those that meet the qualifications have only stayed in a job for a year before moving on. I would venture to say 90% of the resumes are like this.

By looking at the education dates and previous jobs, almost everyone that has responded is a millennial. What the hell is wrong with these kids?


This isn't a millennial thing. Pew compared back to Gen X and millennials, especially college educated, are sticking around more.

I also think an understanding of the job-hopping is essential. I think the chart below is really important. You can view this as an employee or as the employer. I think we know there are many, many, employers who treat their employment base like the left side of the table. Employees are often searching for the right.

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