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Old 08-10-2015, 12:33 AM   #22
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Kids say things like "education is huge", but then they go and rank Michigan ahead of Duke, sooooooooo yeah. Is it really that huge?
Well I think education can be huge without it being the only factor. Why couldnt education be #1 but he chooses a school that isn't the best at #1 but is at 2,3,4 etc. on his list. He has to take all the criteria into account. I'd say having this group shows the kid is at the very least serious about academics.
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You can get all the education you want from Michigan. Does the program and school expect as much of its players? No. Would a Joe Schmidt get a world class education at Michigan? Absolutely. I took a quick look and was shocked to see how many fields that Michigan is ranked higher than ND at the undergraduate level.
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Old 08-10-2015, 03:05 AM   #24
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But when the football program systematically pushes these kids to earn cupcake degrees, does any of that matter?
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In many cases the illusion of education based on a school's reputation is enough. The country is so diluted with education that a bachelors degree is the new high school diploma. There's always an exception to every rule.. it boils down to effort and dedication. On a Jonathon Jones note, give me all the FL recruits.
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But when the football program systematically pushes these kids to earn cupcake degrees, does any of that matter?
Families don't know that though. They don't follow recruiting and college football and closely as us addicts do.

So they go these visits and they get sold a bill of goods. And these coaches and recruiting directors are VERY good at what they do. How could you NOT get swayed when you don't know the game like we do?

And Michigan is an excellent school academically speaking. Excellent. It's an easy sell. So while what you state above is correct, families don't know that, and that's all that matters, really.
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That's where the coaches have to show the recruit and the family the difference between the schools education.
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Can someone tell me Jonathan Jones test scores? GPA? His Mother's educational background?

While I think it's common knowledge Michigan has some paths to a bachelors that are easier than any at ND, it's silly to think that exceptional student athletes capable of competing in the classroom are forcibly being dumbed down because the football program leads them that way.


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