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Old 01-02-2019, 08:04 PM   #946
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I agree about the best player playing, and I am looking forward to the best person earning the spot. Kelly should absolutely start that best person whether it be Book or Jurkovec. I'm sure Jurkovec envisioned the possibilities he could achieve when he was the first person to walk out on the field in Texas. It had to be symbolic for him as a competitor. But I'm also sure Book experienced those hard knocks on the field against Clemson, took them personally, and is determined to not let that performance be his last note at ND. Competition will hopefully create excellence from both.
Love Book... he had a tough last game... bad timing, that's all.

I am so hyped for PJ!! If he can beat Ian in camp that will only be great for The Irish. Book has set the bar pretty high. That's a compliment.

Regardless of who is starting QB, I have a lot of faith in the decision of the coaches. If PJ is the starter next year, he beat out one hell of a QB and more power to him. If IB starts, I have a lot of faith and PJ is waiting to show his skills.

I would think a lot of teams are envious of our situation/challenges at the position of QB.

Unlike some previous years (IMHO) I don't think this decision splits the team but really defines leadership and loyalty. The way I see it anyway.

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Old 01-02-2019, 08:29 PM   #947
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I do not believe it accurately rated ND’s offensive line last year and assumed there was a consensus that the 2017 unit was elite. Maybe you disagree and think that ND had a slightly below average offensive line for a P5 team in 2017.

If you use a lot of zone stretch runs that are high risk/reward and have a scrambling QB who generates a lot of short runs and extra sacks instead of a cement shoes guy who doesn’t extend plays and just throws it away then your OL is going to be systematically underrated by this algorithm.

Not going to take the time to make it pretty, but here are the numbers for 17 and 18. I got rid of the raw numbers, and just left ranking. Immediately below are the stat headers and delta from 2017 to 2018. Below that are the raw ranks from both years.

Adj. LY (-99) / Std. Downs Line Yards (-87) / Pass. Downs Line Yards (-97) / Opp. Rate (-105) / Power Success Rate (+14) / Stuff Rate (-94) / Adj Sack Rate (+22) / Std. Downs Sack Rate (-9) / Pass. Downs Sack Rate (+76)

5-11-20-11-38-22-65-58-88
104-98-117-116-24-118-33-67-12

I would agree that moving to Book from BW improved our Pass Down Sack Rate (+76) due to quick fire. However you want to look at it, Stuff Rate took a major hit (how many times our RBs were hit in the backfield). To me, it's simply one of the best indicators if your line sucks or not. Standard down too. 2017 may have underrated the line because of BW's lack of whatever, but there are plenty of teams that have DT QBs that put up much better numbers stat/productivity wise and OL advanced stat.

BW had 136 rushing attempts in 11.5 games (11.8 rushes per game)
IB had 78 rushing attempts in 9 games (8.7 rushes per game)

Book did not run near as much vs Cuse and USC due to the rib/kidney issue which dropped his average a a few pts. Point being not that much difference in QB rushing attempts.
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Florida - Tebow.
He had a great O-line. Urban Meyer style.
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In retrospect, the SI cover was the kiss of death.
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In retrospect, the SI cover was the kiss of death.
Sports Illustrated was like..



Hidden agenda was like..

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Tebow may be a poor traditional QB but he’s one of the best cfb players in history and was a hell of a QB for what Florida was doing... he wasn’t ‘mediocre’
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Tebow may be a poor traditional QB but he’s one of the best cfb players in history and was a hell of a QB for what Florida was doing... he wasn’t ‘mediocre’
i think of him as one of the baddest assed and most elite ballers of CFB
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