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Old 07-23-2019, 06:37 PM   #85
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I just looked at 247's TE rankings and guys who I had on the board 18 months ago... who didn't have profiles - have now pushed Bauman down to "3* status" and are 4*'s. 247, with all of their resources are slow AF and when they do get around to rating the guys and have no rhyme or reason on who they bust down if they don't go to their camps or camps they are covering.

Also, how do you throw a QB/WR/OLB in as the #1 TE when you have Mayer, Gilbert and Henderson in the class and all just balled out at The Opening??? He's NEVER played TE. He's an ATH that is best suited to play 3-4 OLB / Drop and next the Eifert WR role because there is NO true TE in his future. At this point Conyers is a less athletic Chase Claypool.

I could not ask for a better TE combo for ND than Mayer and Bauman.
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Old 07-23-2019, 08:29 PM   #86
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Classic 247. The site is trash.
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Classic 247. The site is trash.
Seriously. Other than the composite rankings, site is garbage.
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If you watch his film vs others in the top 10 they are all faster than him, BUT they are all smaller than him. Most of them outside Mayer are around 6'3 ish and weigh almost 20 lbs. less. This kid is a legit 6'5, 240. He is not as athletic as the others but in their film, none of them block either. The rankings are baffling. I bet they just ranked on athleticism instead of film.
Even funnier, he has literally not played a snap of padded football between when he was #150 overall in their rankings and their #3 TE to now. I think he did one 7on7 tournament at Rutgers where he was the top performer.

I understand if you want to bump people up based on camp performances, etc. but moving people down when they haven't given you any new information? That's incredibly suspect. 247's rating system has been wonky ever since they started trying to measure players by "pro potential."
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247's rating system has been wonky ever since they started trying to measure players by "pro potential."
Totally agree. Think Major Applewhite or Troy Smith. Or "Dexter Williams is not fast."

This is by no means perfect, but it should be something like:

5 star = projected first team all American level talent (about 25 kids)
high 4 star = all conference talent
4 star = watch list talent/ 2-3 year Power 5 starter
high 3 star = Potential Power 5 starter
3 star = expected Power 5 contributor
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Totally agree. Think Major Applewhite or Troy Smith. Or "Dexter Williams is not fast."

This is by no means perfect, but it should be something like:

5 star = projected first team all American level talent (about 25 kids)
high 4 star = all conference talent
4 star = watch list talent/ 2-3 year Power 5 starter
high 3 star = Potential Power 5 starter
3 star = expected Power 5 contributor
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