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Old 03-04-2019, 10:14 AM   #2416
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It was one of the knocks against Josh Rosen last year
Harbaugh's new pitch... "look, ND guys are too smart for the draft. come to scUM and you'll never have that problem"
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Old 03-04-2019, 02:25 PM   #2417
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They talked about how teams shouldn't hold it against him for having interests outside of football. Perhaps he's too cerebral. Is there such a thing as being too smart in the combine interviews? lol
It’s a disgusting argument. The NFL is fine with guys who beat their girlfriends or whatever (as long as there’s no video), but if you’re smart and have interests in the world beyond football your “commitment” is “suspect.”
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Old 03-04-2019, 02:32 PM   #2418
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It’s a disgusting argument. The NFL is fine with guys who beat their girlfriends or whatever (as long as there’s no video), but if you’re smart and have interests in the world beyond football your “commitment” is “suspect.”
yup. at least they no longer let bad behavior prospects into the combine.
read an article specifically about JT going out of his way to assert that football is his number one priority.
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Old 03-04-2019, 02:37 PM   #2419
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It’s a disgusting argument. The NFL is fine with guys who beat their girlfriends or whatever (as long as there’s no video), but if you’re smart and have interests in the world beyond football your “commitment” is “suspect.”
It's all about control. This has been going on with Notre Dame players forever... remember Buddy Ryan telling Duerson he didn't like Notre Dame grads because he didn't want any "smart n*ggers" on his team? The implication is that the ideal football player for organizations is one dumb enough to not think independently, dumb enough to be manipulated by coaches and not question authority, and dumb enough to not have any alternatives outside of football.

Unless you're a white QB*, then they rave about and celebrate your intelligence.

*Except Josh Rosen. For some reason (the money he came from?) that dude got hated on like crazy for having interests outside of football.
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It's all about control. This has been going on with Notre Dame players forever... remember Buddy Ryan telling Duerson he didn't like Notre Dame grads because he didn't want any "smart n*ggers" on his team? The implication is that the ideal football player for organizations is one dumb enough to not think independently, dumb enough to be manipulated by coaches and not question authority, and dumb enough to not have any alternatives outside of football.

Unless you're a white QB*, then they rave about and celebrate your intelligence.

*Except Josh Rosen. For some reason (the money he came from?) that dude got hated on like crazy for having interests outside of football.
Football fans outside of UCLA didn't like him because he's a golden boy... privileged kid that has it all, doesn't quite live up to the hype, but still gets the golden ticket to the NFL.

The Football Establishment didn't like him because he was brilliant and articulate when talking about the shortcomings and hypocrisy of the amateur model in college football. He wasn't biting the hand that feeds, but it was still too close for comfort for all the old-school dudes, I'm sure.
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It's all about control. This has been going on with Notre Dame players forever... remember Buddy Ryan telling Duerson he didn't like Notre Dame grads because he didn't want any "smart n*ggers" on his team? The implication is that the ideal football player for organizations is one dumb enough to not think independently, dumb enough to be manipulated by coaches and not question authority, and dumb enough to not have any alternatives outside of football.

Unless you're a white QB*, then they rave about and celebrate your intelligence.

*Except Josh Rosen. For some reason (the money he came from?) that dude got hated on like crazy for having interests outside of football.
He criticized the NCAA. From an NFL perspective a guy who's willing to go on the record about the hand that feeds him is an organizational risk.

EDIT: I guess I should have read all the posts in this thread before responding.
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