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Old 01-12-2019, 01:18 AM   #1387
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so stripping out the KofC, they are basically labeling the Catholic religion as extremists. how many other religions are now extremists in the eyes of the god-less Left..... I don't share the Vatican's stance on LGBT but I respect the right to believe whatever the hell you want without being labeled extreme. not sure how one could be Catholic and vote Dem....
Cardinal Dolan agrees with the last sentence
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:35 AM   #1388
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My opinion on Dolan went south after he tried to hide/protect assets. Didn't care for the 20k incentive payoffs either. They should have steamrolled those peds. If the church wants to protect assets, they need to actually do something to rid themselves of the evil plaguing the church.
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Old 01-12-2019, 02:18 AM   #1389
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so stripping out the KofC, they are basically labeling the Catholic religion as extremists. how many other religions are now extremists in the eyes of the god-less Left..... I don't share the Vatican's stance on LGBT but I respect the right to believe whatever the hell you want without being labeled extreme. not sure how one could be Catholic and vote Dem....
Complaining about others painting with a broad brush while doing the same. Interesting. Garrabrad who was taking Harris, Feinstein, ect... to task over this issue is also a member of the “god-less” left and the first sentence of the follow up article Whiskey posted reads “Democratic lawmakers are divided over questions some see as a religious litmus test applied to candidates for the federal bench.“

As to Catholics and their voting habits one could be equally dumbfounded as to why any Catholic would vote for the GOP based on things such as the death penalty, the blantant anti-Catholic/racist rhetoric aimed at Hispanics, the party’s fetishization of guns, the fact that they have eleveated the musings of the anti-God and anti religion Ayn Rand to God like status and on and on.

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Old 01-12-2019, 02:51 AM   #1390
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Complaining about others painting with a broad brush while doing the same. Interesting. Garrabrad who was taking Harris, Feinstein, ect... to task over this issue is also a member of the “god-less” left and the first sentence of the follow up article Whiskey posted reads “Democratic lawmakers are divided over questions some see as a religious litmus test applied to candidates for the federal bench.“

As to Catholics and their voting habits one could be equally dumbfounded as to why any Catholic would vote for the GOP based on things such as the death penalty, the blantant anti-Catholic/racist rhetoric aimed at Hispanics and the party’s fetishization of guns.
as to guns....

“Let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one” (Luke 22:36).

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as to the death penalty....

Pope Francis also says life imprisonment is as bad as the death penalty and likens it to torture or a hidden death penalty. As to capital punishment itself, the Church has gone back and forth. In 1911, 52, and 95 it was permissible. Now Francis say it isn't. Sorry, never believed in the infallibility of the Pope, and not starting now. If infallibility is true, why the waffling in the first place. They even had to modify the Catechism in 2018...

The Old Testament is pretty clear. The New Testament is not as clear, but did say this...

Romans 13:3-4
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

As far as Hispanics are concerned, I love them. I'm also for a wall and immigration reform. Has zero to do with Catholicism or anti Catholicism, or hate of any kind. I lock my doors at night and don't invite strangers into my house as do most people.

Not all Left are godless, but it's the way the party is moving. And it's been moving faster lately. Kudos to those on the Left calling out the crazy. Most however are adopting crazy as the norm.
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Complaining about others painting with a broad brush while doing the same. Interesting. Garrabrad who was taking Harris, Feinstein, ect... to task over this issue is also a member of the “god-less” left and the first sentence of the follow up article Whiskey posted reads “Democratic lawmakers are divided over questions some see as a religious litmus test applied to candidates for the federal bench.“

As to Catholics and their voting habits one could be equally dumbfounded as to why any Catholic would vote for the GOP based on things such as the death penalty, the blantant anti-Catholic/racist rhetoric aimed at Hispanics and the party’s fetishization of guns.
1. I am adamantly opposed to the death penalty, but from a quick Google search, the Church only announced in August of 2018 that the Catechism would be changed to reflect that view.

Regardless, we've had about 1500 executions in the last ~40 years. That many kids are aborted by noon on the 3rd day of each week.

2. We have five Catholics on the Supreme Court, the four of them appointed by the GOP are practicing Catholics no less, and if Ginsburg retires or kicks the bucket this year, it could be six Catholics. There might be fringe Anti-Catholic nonsense in the GOP, but Dems literally just took it fairly mainstream with this KoC stuff.
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:55 PM   #1392
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Complaining about others painting with a broad brush while doing the same. Interesting. Garrabrad who was taking Harris, Feinstein, ect... to task over this issue is also a member of the “god-less” left and the first sentence of the follow up article Whiskey posted reads “Democratic lawmakers are divided over questions some see as a religious litmus test applied to candidates for the federal bench.“

As to Catholics and their voting habits one could be equally dumbfounded as to why any Catholic would vote for the GOP based on things such as the death penalty, the blantant anti-Catholic/racist rhetoric aimed at Hispanics, the party’s fetishization of guns, the fact that they have eleveated the musings of the anti-God and anti religion Ayn Rand to God like status and on and on.
Worst theological take of all time.
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I mean, 100% of saints would oppose abortion. Going by Bluto's theology of Whatever Is Politically Correct In The Current Year I would wager that probably 3/4 or more of current saints would have not made the cut. You're confusing the current leftist paradigm with what the Church actually teaches.
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