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Old 12-27-2018, 06:35 PM   #1359
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JP has his wheelhouse: clean your room, dress nice, etc. He's a good introduction to very basic right wing thinking and philosophy and is very useful for like a slovenly weeaboo gamer looking to improve his life but once he gets past his limitations.

I'm sorry, but this overly pretentious tedium:


Like imagine if the Church Fathers were formulating the Creed in the manner of Jordan Peterson, they'd still be formulating it to this day.

"Credo in unum Deum"

"Whoa, whoa, whoa there guy. I mean first of all we have to determine what we mean by "I" like who am I? Who are you? Who are we? Then we have to think about what we mean by believe. And really, what does 'B-E-L-I-E-V-E' mean? I mean then we have to break down each letter. Where does 'b' come from? I mean these are complex issues. Wash your benis bucko."

I mean he won't answer if he's a Christian or not but only that he probably thinks of God in a Christian way because he's a Westerner and the West is drenched in "Judeo-Christian" thinking and ethics (sidenote: 'Judeo-Christian' is a coward's term, the West was built on Christianity and Christian ethics).

I suspect that he's a some sort of 'cultural Christian' with overly wrought deistic, humanistic conceptions of God. Imagine trying to listen to him explain the Blessed Trinity! I can't even fathom it, I'm already bored and my head hurts.

Does JP believe in the Trinitarian conception of God? Does he believe in the Immaculate Conception? The Virgin Birth? The death and resurrection of Christ? I strongly suspect the answers to that are really long form versions of "no." Thus his theological musings are just sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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Old 12-27-2018, 06:40 PM   #1360
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It's like this scene was shot after watching Jordan Peterson try to answer a theological question:
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:59 PM   #1361
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I wouldn't classify him as a theist. I would expect devout theists to find his answers lacking because he doesn't fully identify as a Judeo-Christian or Catholic Christian.

But he has a lot more to offer than self help for lost young men. The insinuation of anything less shows a lack of understanding or that you haven't given time to his works.

Your insinuation that you're too smart for Peterson is also amusing, but carry on icky, I hope you find the material that challenges you.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:18 PM   #1362
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I don't think I'm "too smart" for JP, I just don't find he has much value for people looking for something beyond basic life advice. I certainly wouldn't turn to him for spiritual, theological, or religious advice or guidance.

I don't think he's stupid, he's obviously very sharp. I have no doubt he's more read and smarter than I am. But I find his overly complex, overly wordy explanations for things to be pretentious and often unnecessary.

I put in the same tier as someone like Ben Shapiro: really good for introduction in to basic life philosophy and deconstructing basic leftist talking points but ultimately getting too attached to them and their philosophies is counterproductive because they are just rabbit holes that lead back into the greater globalist, neoliberal world order. Peterson did work for the United Nations report on "Sustainable Development."
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I will give credit to JP for this: he is extremely adept at cultivating a strong fan base. Any mild criticism of JP is often met with swift and fierce resistance.
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I will give credit to JP for this: he is extremely adept at cultivating a strong fan base. Any mild criticism of JP is often met with swift and fierce resistance.
The criticism that I object to is that he's a "faux" intellectual. Agree or disagree with him, I don't think there's any arguing that he's an honest-to-goodness ACTUAL intellectual.

I don't turn to him for theology, but the way he connects anthropology and psychology really resonates with me. It's given me a greater appreciation of how we're meant to understand and utilize the mythological portions of the Bible that I've never gotten in my catechism outside of a few excellent professors at Notre Dame.
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:56 PM   #1365
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JP takes on Burger King!
Really funny parody.

https://youtu.be/_-tlZY9NEMk

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