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ulukinatme 09-04-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks (Post 1583673)
he should have neva been a 3/4 dt in nfl to begin with. he was just fat not really big and powerful for the position, was always blown up 1v1 constantly. Always only played good when he wanted to or got mad. he should have been told to slim down for combine and agent work the 4/3 teams. hes got shiftiness for a 300lber when he wants to show it, 340ish meh its not for him.

Wat? I agree that he probably would have made a better 4-3 DT than 3-4 in the NFL, and he did have some bad weight through his college career. Aside from that, he consistently ate up double teams in 2012 and in 2013 when he was healthy, and that is the whole role of a 3-4 NT. He did actually slim down quite a bit after the 2013 season once his knee was better. When he was healthy, Lou was a force in the middle of our defense. A big reason we were so successful in 2012 was due to Lou and Manti controlling the middle of the field, those are the two most important positions in the 3-4.

PANDFAN 09-04-2015 03:26 PM

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not surprised Louis Nix would frustrate an NFL staff, but stunned he got himself cut in just two years. <a href="https://t.co/AYkbY86ps7">https://t.co/AYkbY86ps7</a></p>&mdash; Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/639881848273924096">September 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Sherm Sticky 09-04-2015 03:30 PM

Darnel Docket got cut by the 49ers today also. Bad day for DT's


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#1rish 09-04-2015 03:32 PM

Yeesh, I guess I didn't really realize how big his ethic/attitude issues were.

Sherm Sticky 09-04-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by #1rish (Post 1583678)
Yeesh, I guess I didn't really realize how big his ethic/attitude issues were.


Main reason he didn't play his freshman year and the reason he dropped to the third round of the draft.


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sportallyr 09-04-2015 03:58 PM

Well, now you'll likely get to see him on Hard Knocks next week. I bet they give this one some extra attention since he was a fairly high profile draft pick.

Bummed for Lou. Boy could we use him on this year's team (one can dream)!

Bogtrotter07 09-04-2015 05:16 PM

I am not surprised. At all. Like the guy. Have trouble with the personality in the context of football. We saw it at ND. That is why he dipped after Manti was gone. The stories are legend from `10 and `13.

GATTACA! 09-04-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherm Sticky (Post 1583677)
Darnel Docket got cut by the 49ers today also. Bad day for DT's


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Phil Taylor the other day too

phgreek 09-04-2015 06:04 PM

If Lou wants it, he'll get it. Would not be shocked to see him cross over to commentary. Great personality, and if that is where his heart is...he'll do that.

The kid has a ton of potential, he just needs to decide where he wants to be.

ulukinatme 09-04-2015 06:23 PM

Was he that bad behind the scenes? I never really heard anything. I know he made liberal use of his social media, but he generally seemed like a nice guy on camera and in interviews.

yankeehater 09-04-2015 08:37 PM

Sounds like it was a work ethic issue. Beat out by an undersized rookie from Rice.


The Louis Nix III saga with the Texans ends
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Louis Nix started all of the Texans' preseason games, but it wasn't enough to earn a roster spot. Bob Levey/AP

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HOUSTON -- When a coach talks about the player the way Texans coach Bill O'Brien has talked about Louis Nix III, that player is on notice.

Apparently, the Texans did not like how Nix responded to that challenge. Nix was released Friday a source confirmed, just two years after the Texans traded up to draft him in the third round.

Today's move was another blow to the Texans' third-round drafting history. They drafted seven players since 2012 in the third round, a round that can produce starters. Only three of those seven still remain with the team -- starting right guard Brandon Brooks (2012), tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz (2014) and receiver Jaelen Strong (2015). The players drafted in the third round who are no longer with the team are DeVier Posey (2012), Brennan Williams and Sam Montgomery (2013) and Nix (2014).

Nix started all of the Texans' preseason games, including their fourth preseason game in which most of the starters rested. He was starting in place of Vince Wilfork, whom the Texans rested in their exhibition games. The Texans gave him every chance to keep his job, but liked what they got out of rookie Christian Covington more.

As recently as last week, defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel was moderately complimentary of Nix.

"I think Louis has improved," Crennel said. "He’s working. We didn’t get a chance to see him work a whole lot last year, but he’s working hard. He’s shown improvement on the field. We still have a ways to go, but he’s working at it and improving."

O'Brien, too, had praised Nix's improvement this offseason in his work ethic and focus. That was a shift from before the Texans' offseason program began. In March, O'Brien had some cutting words about Nix.

"I have not seen Louis Nix," O'Brien said at the league meetings. "I don't know. He’s working out somewhere in Florida I guess. Haven’t seen him. But that’s their prerogative, so don’t read anything into that. When they show back up here for the offseason program, especially the younger players, the younger players need to be ready to roll. So hopefully he’s ready to go."

Some other confirmed cuts include running back Kenny Hilliard, outside linebacker Kourtnei Brown, safety Corey Moore, receiver Damaris Johnson and outside linebacker Max Bullough. Moore and Hilliard are two I expect to return to the practice squad.

Sherm Sticky 09-04-2015 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ulukinatme (Post 1583743)
Was he that bad behind the scenes? I never really heard anything. I know he made liberal use of his social media, but he generally seemed like a nice guy on camera and in interviews.


Kelly always brought up worth ethic with Lou, especially his freshman year. They had to really ride him to get maximum effort. In the NFL coaches won't ride a player to give effort. The coaches expect effort.


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NDRock 09-04-2015 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherm Sticky (Post 1583804)
Kelly always brought up worth ethic with Lou, especially his freshman year. They had to really ride him to get maximum effort. In the NFL coaches won't ride a player to give effort. The coaches expect effort.


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Yep, as Lou says. "Motivation is simple, you eliminate those that aren't motivated."

irishfan 09-04-2015 11:34 PM

His RS Frosh year, they talked about having him on a snap count and then that was dropped after he played well. From just about every report, he wasn't much of a practice player, but obviously would bring it on game days. Can't really do that in the NFL. Between that, his laid-back demeanor, and the fact he can't stay off social media, it shouldn't be too shocking he's cut already I guess. Hopefully, he turns it around wherever he heads to next.

SaltyND24 09-05-2015 02:15 AM

Strange, I had just spoken to his gf as recently as last week and from the sound of it, it seemed like he was doing well and was slated to be the next man in after Wilfork. What I got was that his health was not an issue at all. Hopefully it'll all work out for him and he uses this as the motivation he needs to get it going.

IrishSteelhead 09-05-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltyND24 (Post 1583986)
Strange, I had just spoken to his gf as recently as last week and from the sound of it, it seemed like he was doing well and was slated to be the next man in after Wilfork. What I got was that his health was not an issue at all. Hopefully it'll all work out for him and he uses this as the motivation he needs to get it going.


If you can't get reliable information from a woman, where can you.....

Irish#1 09-05-2015 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SaltyND24 (Post 1583986)
Strange, I had just spoken to his gf as recently as last week and from the sound of it, it seemed like he was doing well and was slated to be the next man in after Wilfork. What I got was that his health was not an issue at all. Hopefully it'll all work out for him and he uses this as the motivation he needs to get it going.

She's probably just relaying what he tells her. Hope they best for Big Lou, but if he's had a motivation issue for a number of years, I doubt he's going to change now.

FightingIrishLover7 09-05-2015 10:50 AM

Hate to say I saw this coming, but I can say I wouldn't have drafted him for sure.

He's always been a little to silly, and very inconsistent with motivation.

Louis would make a great TV personality, but a less than great player.

IrishSteelhead 09-05-2015 11:43 AM

'10 FL DT Louis Nix (Notre Dame Man)
 
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Originally Posted by FightingIrishLover7 (Post 1584076)
Hate to say I saw this coming, but I can say I wouldn't have drafted him for sure.

He's always been a little to silly, and very inconsistent with motivation.

Louis would make a great TV personality, but a less than great player.


I feel like this is the case for most ND players. Call them soft, entitled, whatever, but IMO it's because it takes more than athletic ability to get into ND in the first place, and a lot of the players aren't the "NFL or sell insurance in my hometown as a token to get clients" type of player the SEC recruits.

It's harder to be motivated to do something that destroys your body for money when you could do something much easier for more than enough money instead. If Lou was 100% committed to playing in the NFL and had no other goals, he would have stayed with a Florida school IMO.

* I have no idea what his motivation in life is, and he is still plenty young enough to forge out a career in the NFL if that is what he truly wants.

GoldenToTheGrave 09-05-2015 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishSteelhead (Post 1584095)
I feel like this is the case for most ND players. Call them soft, entitled, whatever, but IMO it's because it takes more than athletic ability to get into ND in the first place, and a lot of the players aren't the "NFL or sell insurance in my hometown as a token to get clients" type of player the SEC recruits.

It's harder to be motivated to do something that destroys your body for money when you could do something much easier for more than enough money instead. If Lou was 100% committed to playing in the NFL and had no other goals, he would have stayed with a Florida school IMO.

* I have no idea what his motivation in life is, and he is still plenty young enough to forge out a career in the NFL if that is what he truly wants.

I also always wondered how much the work load at ND limits the amount of time most players can focus on football.

irishfan 09-05-2015 12:44 PM

I also thought it was a red flag how he got into shape for the NFL combine but couldn't get into shape for his senior year ND. That's going to make pro guys think you're only going to go all out in a contract season. Nix was the man, but there were a lot more red flags for him looking back on it than I realized.

Bogtrotter07 09-05-2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by irishfan (Post 1584117)
I also thought it was a red flag how he got into shape for the NFL combine but couldn't get into shape for his senior year ND. That's going to make pro guys think you're only going to go all out in a contract season. Nix was the man, but there were a lot more red flags for him looking back on it than I realized.

You are a lot more "right on track" that most. Not that Nix was a bad guy, but he could never get out of his own way, and his compliance with what he needed to do for his "program" was ancillary at best.

As you stated his actions, however subtle, spoke louder than words, his or anyone else's!

#1rish 09-06-2015 12:53 PM

Claimed by the Giants. Hope he can put it together.

PLACforever 09-06-2015 06:00 PM

Super excited about this. I hope we see the Irish Chocolate that the Texans expect to see when they used a 3rd rounder on him.

KPENN 09-06-2015 06:58 PM

Happy for him, but yuck.

tadman95 09-06-2015 07:04 PM

I hope getting cut served as a wake up call for him. There's more to being a DT in the NFL than weighing 350#'s. Dig in Louis!!

GBdomer 09-06-2015 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyND24 (Post 1583986)
Strange, I had just spoken to his gf as recently as last week and from the sound of it, it seemed like he was doing well and was slated to be the next man in after Wilfork. What I got was that his health was not an issue at all. Hopefully it'll all work out for him and he uses this as the motivation he needs to get it going.

Do you work with his girlfriend or what?

SaltyND24 09-07-2015 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GBdomer (Post 1585863)
Do you work with his girlfriend or what?

Naw we're friends...she graduated from ND as well...same fantasy football league as well

ND NYC 09-07-2015 11:37 AM

Go Nix!
Go G-Men!

kmoose 09-07-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyND24 (Post 1585963)
Naw we're friends...she graduated from ND as well...same fantasy football league as well

Stay away from her feet. We don't want you developing a speech impediment or anything.

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Huntr 09-08-2015 05:25 PM

Failed physical w/Giants. On waivers now.

Booslum31 09-08-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Huntr (Post 1587102)
Failed physical w/Giants. On waivers now.

Man, that stinks! Good luck Louis!

stlnd01 09-08-2015 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishSteelhead (Post 1584095)
I feel like this is the case for most ND players. Call them soft, entitled, whatever, but IMO it's because it takes more than athletic ability to get into ND in the first place, and a lot of the players aren't the "NFL or sell insurance in my hometown as a token to get clients" type of player the SEC recruits.

It's harder to be motivated to do something that destroys your body for money when you could do something much easier for more than enough money instead. If Lou was 100% committed to playing in the NFL and had no other goals, he would have stayed with a Florida school IMO.

* I have no idea what his motivation in life is, and he is still plenty young enough to forge out a career in the NFL if that is what he truly wants.

I don't think it's a matter of soft or entitled (though we do get some of those). Just that there's a big difference between being a college football player and a pro football player, and for several reasons you see that dichotomy more at Notre Dame than most places.
But if a player gives what he can to Notre Dame (as Nix certainly did), and Notre Dame holds up its end of the deal with a serious education (as it usually does), I can't get that worked up about what happens afterward, especially if - as in Nix' case, there's a solid rookie contract. Long run, I figure he'll be OK even if football ends earlier than expected.

NDPhilly 09-08-2015 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishSteelhead (Post 1584095)
I feel like this is the case for most ND players. Call them soft, entitled, whatever, but IMO it's because it takes more than athletic ability to get into ND in the first place, and a lot of the players aren't the "NFL or sell insurance in my hometown as a token to get clients" type of player the SEC recruits.

It's harder to be motivated to do something that destroys your body for money when you could do something much easier for more than enough money instead. If Lou was 100% committed to playing in the NFL and had no other goals, he would have stayed with a Florida school IMO.

* I have no idea what his motivation in life is, and he is still plenty young enough to forge out a career in the NFL if that is what he truly wants.

Agree with this 100% ND recruits on average seem to be much better off then your average SEC recruit judging by the type of Catholic and Prep schools we recruit from. And then on top of that you are getting one of the best degrees in the country where you can make 100,000+ easy. Shit we heard that Max Redfield, a former 5 star safety, needed to focus MORE on football. There isn't that feeling of "football is my only way out" that exists at other football factories.

stlnd01 09-08-2015 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NDPhilly (Post 1587242)
Agree with this 100% ND recruits on average seem to be much better off then your average SEC recruit judging by the type of Catholic and Prep schools we recruit from. And then on top of that you are getting one of the best degrees in the country where you can make 100,000+ easy. Shit we heard that Max Redfield, a former 5 star safety, needed to focus MORE on football. There isn't that feeling of "football is my only way out" that exists at other football factories.

Yeah.

It always strikes me how many pro athletes' kids we get. I take that as a sign of parents who know what the pro athlete game is about and want their son to get a good education in the process.

It also strikes me how different those kids are. Some are entitled whiners who piss away their opportunity (won't name names but we all know who they are). Some come to make the most of it. Parenting matters.

Two quibbles: Notre Dame's not a "football factory." And even with a Notre Dame degree, it's not "easy" to make $100K a year in this world. You've still got to work for it, just like that NFL job.

Sherm Sticky 09-08-2015 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stlnd01 (Post 1587284)
Yeah.

It always strikes me how many pro athletes' kids we get. I take that as a sign of parents who know what the pro athlete game is about and want their son to get a good education in the process.

It also strikes me how different those kids are. Some are entitled whiners who piss away their opportunity (won't name names but we all know who they are). Some come to make the most of it. Parenting matters.

Two quibbles: Notre Dame's not a "football factory." And even with a Notre Dame degree, it's not "easy" to make $100K a year in this world. You've still got to work for it, just like that NFL job.


I've also noticed Stanford gets there fair share of pro athletes' children.


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ulukinatme 09-08-2015 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Huntr (Post 1587102)
Failed physical w/Giants. On waivers now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/1irishchocolate">@1irishchocolate</a> You and I had a &quot;few&quot; of those talks huh? Lol. How is it with the Giants and T-Mac?</p>&mdash; Coach Tony Alford (@CoachTonyAlford) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachTonyAlford/status/641413107122872320">September 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/CoachTonyAlford">@CoachTonyAlford</a> we def did. Things are going well. I'm just ready to get things rolling. Tomorrow it begins!!! 😁</p>&mdash; lOUIS NIX III (@1irishchocolate) <a href="https://twitter.com/1irishchocolate/status/641416605684006913">September 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/1irishchocolate">@1irishchocolate</a> You're gonna do great Lou</p>&mdash; Coach Tony Alford (@CoachTonyAlford) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachTonyAlford/status/641440606770872320">September 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Wait, so is he on the Giants or no? I'm confused...and drunk.

yankeehater 09-09-2015 12:22 AM

The transaction wire today shows him being waved.

Da Raiders added Atkinson III to their practice squad.

Henges24 09-09-2015 05:48 PM

Passed physical with Giants today. Must have given him another shot.

pumpdog20 09-09-2015 09:31 PM

What goes on for a typical NFL physical where one can fail one day and pass the next?

GBdomer 09-09-2015 10:06 PM

Hopefully Nix gets it together and starts taking it seriously. As much as I love him he's been a disappointment IMO besides for the National Title run.

CanadalovesND 11-08-2015 09:11 AM

Waived by Giants

IrishJayhawk 11-08-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadalovesND (Post 1632830)
Waived by Giants

Dang. I can't believe he's not sticking anywhere.

CanadalovesND 11-08-2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishJayhawk (Post 1632832)
Dang. I can't believe he's not sticking anywhere.

Ya, some players just are college players only. It's where they succeed and peak. Nix looks to be one of those players.

dublinirish 11-09-2015 04:46 AM

Nix's whole motivation to play football was borne from signing a rookie contract to buy a house for his family. Not that that is done its easy to see why the NFL is not working out for him

PANDFAN 11-09-2015 09:22 AM

And he was just asking on Twitter what luxury car he should purchase.....

BleedBlueGold 11-09-2015 09:37 AM

If he's blowing that rookie contract money (and it seems that he is), he'll be broke in a couple years (like the majority of professional athletes) and will need to fall back on that ND degree. I'm not sure one in film, television and theatre will help him any unless the ND alumni network can help land him an analyst gig.

Hopefully things work out for him in his life. He overcame a lot. But his NFL career (or lack thereof) is wildly disappointing.

dublinirish 11-09-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedBlueGold (Post 1633397)
If he's blowing that rookie contract money (and it seems that he is), he'll be broke in a couple years (like the majority of professional athletes) and will need to fall back on that ND degree. I'm not sure one in film, television and theatre will help him any unless the ND alumni network can help land him an analyst gig.

Hopefully things work out for him in his life. He overcame a lot. But his NFL career (or lack thereof) is wildly disappointing.

i dont think he even graduated during his time at ND. Obviously he could come back any time and finish though. Dude had a large family with a lot of mouths to feed, hope he has a good financial advisor..

rocket66 11-09-2015 09:48 AM

'10 FL DT Louis Nix (Notre Dame Man)
 
Man. I really wanted him to use his final year of eligibility. Really felt like he needed to refine his game before moving on. I'll be bummed if he doesn't make a name for himself in the NFL.


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BleedBlueGold 11-09-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dublinirish (Post 1633404)
i dont think he even graduated during his time at ND. Obviously he could come back any time and finish though. Dude had a large family with a lot of mouths to feed, hope he has a good financial advisor..

UND site says

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will graduate in May 2014 with a degree in film, television and theatre from the College of Arts and Letters.
Unless that's wrong...


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