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  • 2021 NFL Draft

    2020 NFL Draft - Boooooooo
    2021 NFL Draft - Probably not via Zoom!!!*


    * May be conducted via Zoom

    Location: Cleveland Rocks!
    Dates: 29 APR - 1 MAY 2021

    You want action? We already have action.

    Trades reported via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_NFL_Draft

    Round 1
    Houston → Miami (PD). Houston traded first- and second-round selections, a 2020 first-round selection, as well as offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi to Miami in exchange for wide receiver Kenny Stills, offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil, and 2020 fourth- and sixth-round selections.

    L.A. Rams → Jacksonville (PD). The Los Angeles Rams traded their first- and fourth-round selections and a 2020 first-round selection to Jacksonville in exchange for cornerback Jalen Ramsey.

    Round 2

    Houston → Miami (PD). See Round 1: Houston → Miami

    Round 3

    New Orleans → Cleveland (PD). New Orleans traded a third-round and 2020 third-round selections to Cleveland in exchange for Cleveland's 2020 third- and seventh-round selections.

    San Francisco → Washington (PD). San Francisco traded a third-round and 2020 fifth-round selections to Washington in exchange for offensive tackle Trent Williams.

    Round 4

    Arizona → Houston (PD). Arizona traded fourth-round and 2020 second-round selections as well as running back David Johnson to Houston in exchange for wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins and a 2020 fourth-round selection.

    Buffalo → Minnesota (PD). Buffalo traded a fourth-round selection as well as 2020 first-, fifth-, and sixth-round selections to Minnesota in exchange for wide receiver Stefon Diggs and a 2020 seventh-round selection.

    Chicago → Minnesota (PD). Chicago traded a fourth-round selection to Minnesota in exchange for a 2020 fifth-round selection.

    L.A. Rams → Jacksonville (PD). See Round 1: L. A. Rams → Jacksonville.

    Philadelphia → Cleveland (PD). Philadelphia traded a fourth round selection to Cleveland in exchange for edge Genard Avery.

    Round 5

    Dallas → Philadelphia (PD). Dallas traded 2020 and 2021 fifth-round selections to Philadelphia in exchange for a 2020 fourth-round selection.

    L.A. Rams → Cleveland (PD) The Los Angeles Rams traded a fifth-round selection to Cleveland in exchange for offensive lineman Austin Corbett.

    Las Vegas → Buffalo (PD). Las Vegas traded a fifth-round selection to Buffalo in exchange for wide receiver Zay Jones.

    Multiple trades:
    Pittsburgh → Baltimore (PD). Pittsburgh traded a fifth-round selection to Baltimore in exchange for defensive end Chris Wormley and a seventh-round selection.

    Baltimore → Minnesota (PD). Baltimore traded fifth-round, originally from Pittsburgh, and 2020 seventh-round selections to Minnesota in exchange for 2020 sixth- and seventh-round selections.

    Round 6

    Kansas City → Tennessee (PD). Kansas City traded a sixth-round selection to Tennessee in exchange for a 2020 seventh-round selection originally acquired from New England via Denver.

    Miami → Houston (PD). See Round 1: Houston → Miami.

    N.Y. Jets → New England (PD). New York traded a sixth-round selection to New England in exchange for wide receiver Demaryius Thomas.

    New England → N.Y. Jets (PD). New England traded a sixth-round selection and two 2020 fourth-round selections to the New York Jets in exchange for a 2020 third-round selection.

    Pittsburgh → Miami (PD). Pittsburgh traded a sixth-round selection and 2020 first- and fifth-round selections to Miami in exchange for a seventh-round selection, a 2020 fourth-round selection, and safety Minkah Fitzpatrick.

    Seattle → Miami (PD). Seattle traded a sixth-round selection to Miami in exchange for a 2020 seventh-round selection.

    Round 7

    Atlanta → Miami (PD). Atlanta traded a seventh-round selection to Miami in exchange for defensive end Charles Harris.

    Baltimore → Pittsburgh (PD). See Round 5: Pittsburgh → Baltimore.

    Buffalo → Cleveland (PD). Buffalo traded a seventh-round selection and guard Wyatt Teller to the Cleveland in exchange for a 2020 fifth- and sixth-round selections.

    Carolina → Buffalo (PD). Carolina traded a conditional seventh-round selection to Buffalo in exchange for offensive tackle Marshall Newhouse.

    Chicago → Las Vegas (PD). Chicago traded a conditional seventh-round selection to Las Vegas, based in Oakland at the time of trade, in exchange for kicker Eddy Piñeiro.

    Cleveland → Denver (PD). Cleveland traded a seventh-round selection to Denver in exchange for fullback Andy Janovich.

    Detroit → Seattle (PD). Detroit traded safety Quandre Diggs and a seventh-round selection to Seattle in exchange for Seattle's 2020 fifth-round selection.

    Miami → Pittsburgh (PD). See Round 6: Pittsburgh → Miami.

    Unresolved

    N.Y. Giants → N.Y. Jets (PD). The New York Giants traded their fifth-round and 2020 third-round selections to the New York Jets in exchange for defensive end Leonard Williams. This will become a fourth-round selection should Williams sign a contract extension with the Giants prior to the start of the 2020 season.


    We are mocking with you, not at you.

    Todd McShay's Way Too Early Top 32 from the ESPN.com Insider section https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...rospects-class

    # 17: JOK

    Mel Kiper also has an early big board behind the paywall https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...iper-big-board

    Outside Linebacker # 2: JOK

    ESPN Early Look at QB https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/s...-landing-spots


    *Others section*
    Notre Dame's Ian Book has above-average athleticism and good accuracy, particularly in short and intermediate throws, but his downfield work and height (6-foot) don't project as well to the next level.

  • #2
    The NFL has not only expanded the Rooney rule for hiring minority coaches, but now will grant teams that lose a minority coach (non-head coach) or executive to a head coach or general manager job with another team will receive a third-round compensatory pick for two consecutive years.. If a team loses a minority coach and an executive to HC and GM roles, that club will receive a third-round compensatory pick for three consecutive years.

    Good site for following compensatory picks for the upcoming draft.
    Compensatory Draft Picks Cancellation Chart

    Counting Comp picks, Dallas will have ten picks. Their comp picks will be a third, fourth, fifth and seventh.

    New England will have twelve picks, including comp picks in the 3rd, 4th, and 2 sixes.

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    • #3
      Good time for an update on THE Mel Kipers Big Board. Great success has some familiar names rising, though I would guess more will start popping up as the season moves along. Below is a link to the ESPN.com Insider article and carefully curated snippets as teasers. Subscribe now!

      https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...-new-big-board

      1st Round talent:

      #16 JOK - continues his steady climb up draft boards


      Best of the rest, top 10 lists by position:

      Offensive Tackle:
      # 5 Liam Eichenberg

      Defensive End:
      # 8 Ade Ogundeji
      # 10 Daelin Hayes

      Outside Linebacker:
      # 1 JOK

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      • #4
        There are only three black head coaches - Mike Tomlin of the Steelers, Anthony Lynn with the Chargers and Brian Flores with the Dolphins. Among the 32 teams this season, there were two African-American offensive coordinators and 10 defensive coordinators.

        The two Black offensive coordinators in the league, Kansas City’s Eric Bieniemy and Tampa Bay’s Byron Leftwich. Bieniemy helped engineer the potent offense behind Patrick Mahomes that led the Chiefs to last season’s Super Bowl title. Tampa Bay had the No. 1 passing offense in the league in 2019 and now have Tom Brady.

        Comp picks for their or other black coaches hiring are rewards for an organization that develops minority coaches.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Armyirish47 View Post
          Good time for an update on THE Mel Kipers Big Board. Great success has some familiar names rising, though I would guess more will start popping up as the season moves along. Below is a link to the ESPN.com Insider article and carefully curated snippets as teasers. Subscribe now!

          https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...-new-big-board

          1st Round talent:

          #16 JOK - continues his steady climb up draft boards


          Best of the rest, top 10 lists by position:

          Offensive Tackle:
          # 5 Liam Eichenberg

          Defensive End:
          # 8 Ade Ogundeji
          # 10 Daelin Hayes

          Outside Linebacker:
          # 1 JOK

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Armyirish47 View Post
            Good time for an update on THE Mel Kipers Big Board. Great success has some familiar names rising, though I would guess more will start popping up as the season moves along. Below is a link to the ESPN.com Insider article and carefully curated snippets as teasers. Subscribe now!

            https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...-new-big-board

            1st Round talent:

            #16 JOK - continues his steady climb up draft boards


            Best of the rest, top 10 lists by position:

            Offensive Tackle:
            # 5 Liam Eichenberg

            Defensive End:
            # 8 Ade Ogundeji
            # 10 Daelin Hayes

            Outside Linebacker:
            # 1 JOK

            In addition to this Todd McShay releases his updated top 32 board. JOK is listed at #20 overall.

            I think it’s safe to say at this point in time JOK should go off the board middle of the first round to late first round at worse.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Legacy View Post
              The NFL has not only expanded the Rooney rule for hiring minority coaches, but now will grant teams that lose a minority coach (non-head coach) or executive to a head coach or general manager job with another team will receive a third-round compensatory pick for two consecutive years.. If a team loses a minority coach and an executive to HC and GM roles, that club will receive a third-round compensatory pick for three consecutive years.

              Good site for following compensatory picks for the upcoming draft.
              Compensatory Draft Picks Cancellation Chart

              Counting Comp picks, Dallas will have ten picks. Their comp picks will be a third, fourth, fifth and seventh.

              New England will have twelve picks, including comp picks in the 3rd, 4th, and 2 sixes.
              Does this make sense logistically? If you want to hire Eric Belliamy to be the new HC in Denver or LAC, since both coaches are on the hot seat, do you really want to benefit your divisional rival? That coach would have to be here and shoulders better than any other coach you interview because if so things are even you prob don't help out the team you're chasing

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Irish8248 View Post
                Does this make sense logistically? If you want to hire Eric Belliamy to be the new HC in Denver or LAC, since both coaches are on the hot seat, do you really want to benefit your divisional rival? That coach would have to be here and shoulders better than any other coach you interview because if so things are even you prob don't help out the team you're chasing
                True. But the bigger picture of facilitating hiring minority was evidently worth it. Eric Bieniemy will be hired for his experience and qualifications. KC would not have gotten comp picks if he was hired last year for any of the five openings. Under the expansion of the Rooney Rule, teams will be required to interview two external minority candidates for a head coaching position and one for a coordinator position. From KC's perspective, I doubt Bieniemy will bring his offensive mind to a division rival, especially with the Chargers having a minority head coach and Denver and Las Vegas having relatively new coaches anyway whose teams seem to be headed in the right direction.

                Currently KC is expected with comp picks (2) to have nine picks - a 1st Rd, 2nd, 3rd, two 4ths (theirs and a comp), two 5ths (theirs and a comp), and two 7ths (theirs and one from Minn).

                Andy Reid has built an organization that supports diversity in the coaching and personnel ranks. Ryan Poles, who is black, is looked at as a soon-to-be GM too. Their front office will be a stream for future GM gigs.

                The Chargers have one coordinator and six assistant coaches who are AA. Down the road a few of those may be hired for head coaching gigs.
                Last edited by Legacy; 11-12-2020, 10:56 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                  True. But the bigger picture of facilitating hiring minority was evidently worth it. Eric Bieniemy will be hired for his experience and qualifications. KC would not have gotten comp picks if he was hired last year for any of the five openings. Under the expansion of the Rooney Rule, teams will be required to interview two external minority candidates for a head coaching position and one for a coordinator position. From KC's perspective, I doubt Bieniemy will bring his offensive mind to a division rival, especially with the Chargers having a minority head coach and Denver and Las Vegas having relatively new coaches anyway whose teams seem to be headed in the right direction.

                  Currently KC is expected with comp picks (2) to have nine picks - a 1st Rd, 2nd, 3rd, two 4ths (theirs and a comp), two 5ths (theirs and a comp), and two 7ths (theirs and one from Minn).

                  Andy Reid has built an organization that supports diversity in the coaching and personnel ranks. Ryan Poles, who is black, is looked at as a soon-to-be GM too. Their front office will be a stream for future GM gigs.

                  The Chargers have one coordinator and six assistant coaches who are AA. Down the road a few of those may be hired for head coaching gigs.
                  This is less about the Chiefs and more about the hypothetical. If Team A has a quality minority coach/exec then certainly 3 other teams in that division and maybe 1 or 2 in the conference would be disenfranchised to hire said person solely because if they do they help the team they're expressly chasing.

                  I get the rationale just don't think it's well thought out. The team hiring should receive comp picks if anything

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Irish8248 View Post
                    This is less about the Chiefs and more about the hypothetical. If Team A has a quality minority coach/exec then certainly 3 other teams in that division and maybe 1 or 2 in the conference would be disenfranchised to hire said person solely because if they do they help the team they're expressly chasing.

                    I get the rationale just don't think it's well thought out. The team hiring should receive comp picks if anything
                    In which case a division rival would hire a minority coach within their division to not only get the experience, scheme, and the third round comp picks....

                    In addition to the Chargers and Chiefs, the Steelers have a number of minority assistant coaches and one long-time coordinator. This is also about minority hiring in the front office, too.

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                    • #11
                      Fifty-five players who are underclassmen have opted out (and did not opt back in) and declared for the NFL draft. Last year 115 undergrad players declared for the draft.

                      https://athlonsports.com/college-foo...ving-early-nfl

                      The 247 site has the list with their star ranking on recruitment.

                      https://247sports.com/Article/2021-N...rly-150516516/

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                      • #12
                        ESPN.com had an Insider only Top 10 Draft PickOff between Mel Kiper Jr and his love child Todd McShay.

                        https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...in-fields-more

                        Not the greatest gabfest back and forth but the interesting thing is entering the Top 10....at #10 to the Denver Broncos.......Oh My God!!! That's JOK's MUSICK!!!!!!!

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                        • #13
                          Draft content is heating up and that means it's time for the Draft Daddy of them all to update his big board on an Insider ESPN.COM article.

                          https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...-new-big-board

                          Got some nice movement here for the squad.

                          Overall Draft Pick of Note:

                          #9 = JOK, up 7 spots as he continues to demonstrate he is the perfect modern NFL linebacker. Hype train is real.

                          By position:

                          QB - Ian Book at #9, say what?

                          OT - Liam down a spot to #6

                          G - Banksy makes his first appearance at #5...uncomfortable

                          DE - Ade up to #5, and Daelin stays strong at #10

                          OLB - King stay the King



                          Pretty good showing with some excellent opportunities for some other guys to get some big time tape laid down in the coming weeks.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Armyirish47 View Post
                            Draft content is heating up and that means it's time for the Draft Daddy of them all to update his big board on an Insider ESPN.COM article.

                            https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...-new-big-board

                            Got some nice movement here for the squad.

                            Overall Draft Pick of Note:

                            #9 = JOK, up 7 spots as he continues to demonstrate he is the perfect modern NFL linebacker. Hype train is real.

                            By position:

                            QB - Ian Book at #9, say what?

                            OT - Liam down a spot to #6

                            G - Banksy makes his first appearance at #5...uncomfortable

                            DE - Ade up to #5, and Daelin stays strong at #10

                            OLB - King stay the King



                            Pretty good showing with some excellent opportunities for some other guys to get some big time tape laid down in the coming weeks.
                            I've actually recently seen some mocks with Ade going later first...just saying.

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                            • #15
                              CBS's big board / top 150

                              28 JOK
                              87 Ade
                              102 Liam

                              PFF

                              17 JOK
                              45 Liam
                              154 Daelin
                              185 Kramer
                              186 Hainsey
                              The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
                              Of the big lake they called Gitche Gumee

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                              • #16
                                Some prime names to follow for Senior Bowl stuff so far:

                                @BillyM_91
                                @ChiefinCarolina

                                There’s others but each have have had multiple ND clips

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                                • #17
                                  Hayes has positive mentions from a lot of guys so far

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                                  • #18
                                    Sorry don’t know how to embed twitter but love this

                                    https://twitter.com/the33rdteamfb/st...947189760?s=21

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                                    • #19
                                      Mel Kiper has updated his mockery pre-Senior Bowl on a the ESPN.com insider article linked below. The only interesting thing was the number of QBs he has going early, that will really push some other players down the board...including the lone ND entry, JOK falling all the way to #18 and the Dolphins.

                                      https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...-devonta-smith

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                                      • #20
                                        QBs and the draft

                                        FAs - Dak Prescott (31% snaps) and Andy Dalton (54%) w. the Cowboys.
                                        Trubisky, Tyrod Taylor, Cam Newton are possibilities.

                                        QB needy teams
                                        1. Jax - Lawrence
                                        2. NYJ - Fields or Zach Wilson
                                        4. Atlanta - the one the Jets don't take to sit for a year behind Ryan
                                        7. Detroit - Stafford's replacement
                                        9. Denver - Lock regressed
                                        12. San Fran - 49ers would save $26 mill by cutting or trading Garopollo
                                        15. New England - has 10 draft picks including one in each of the first three rounds
                                        19. Washington - perhaps they stay with Haskins and A. Smith combo
                                        20. Chicago - only five draft picks
                                        21. Indy - seven draft picks. One in each round
                                        28. New Orleans - who replaces Brees? Saints have the worst cap space in the NFL (-$112 mill)

                                        Possibly on the market - Stafford, Watson, Wentz?

                                        Dak (Cowboys will reach a deal)
                                        Taylor has been mentioned as bridge QB for Detroit due to familiarity with the new HC and playbook
                                        Last edited by Legacy; 01-26-2021, 05:12 PM.

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                                          FAs - Dak Prescott (31% snaps) and Andy Dalton (54%) w. the Cowboys.
                                          Trubisky, Tyrod Taylor, Cam Newton are possibilities.

                                          QB needy teams
                                          1. Jax - Lawrence
                                          2. NYJ - Fields or Zach Wilson
                                          4. Atlanta - the one the Jets don't take to sit for a year behind Ryan
                                          7. Detroit - Stafford's replacement
                                          9. Denver - Lock regressed
                                          12. San Fran - 49ers would save $26 mill by cutting or trading Garopollo
                                          15. New England - has 10 draft picks including one in each of the first three rounds
                                          19. Washington - perhaps they stay with Haskins and A. Smith combo
                                          20. Chicago - only five draft picks
                                          21. Indy - seven draft picks. One in each round
                                          28. New Orleans - who replaces Brees? Saints have the worst cap space in the NFL (-$112 mill)

                                          Possibly on the market - Stafford, Watson, Wentz?

                                          Dak (Cowboys will reach a deal)
                                          Taylor has been mentioned as bridge QB for Detroit due to familiarity with the new HC and playbook
                                          He is now a Steeler.

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                                          • #22
                                            How Mac Jones performs in the months ahead leading up to the draft is something a lot of people are going to be watching closely.
                                            It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                            • #23
                                              Senior Bowl starting now on NFL Network

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                                              • #24
                                                Ogundeji out there on D first drive. Looks like no Hayes and McCloud initially

                                                Both a QB hurry and drew a hold as Mond scrambled
                                                Last edited by Dale; 01-30-2021, 02:43 PM.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Hainsey at RG and Banks at LG first. Ehlinger got first QB shot.

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                                                  • #26
                                                    Sack for Hayes. Book will start 2H

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                                                    • #27
                                                      Hainsey has been at RG most of the day from what I noticed but now is at C

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                                                      • #28
                                                        Hainsey and Banks carry Carter (UNC) into the end zone! Commenters raining down praise on Hainsey and NL OL work ethic

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                                                        • #29
                                                          BK getting some love on player development from Daniel Jeremiah.

                                                          Book had a nice TD drive w/ Hainey getting props for pushing Carter into EZ.

                                                          Ade looks good today. Had a sack of Jamie Newman who looked really rusty.

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                                                          • #30
                                                            Books 3rd drive was good. The rest pretty meh. ND OL was pretty decent. I like Hainsey playing C and G. That should help him in the draft. Without stunting being allowed, everything was pretty bland and hard to really grade. ND DL same.

                                                            I loved Quinn Meinerz and the stuff they showed about him in Canada. Funny dude, and love him dunking and working out in the woods. Dude made himself some money this week.
                                                            The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
                                                            Of the big lake they called Gitche Gumee

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                                                            • #31
                                                              I have decided to add "Alabama Pro Day" to my bucket list. I need to see one in person before Saban retires.
                                                              It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                              • #32
                                                                Draft daddy Kiper has again updated his draft rankings this morning via an ESPN.com Insider article as we quickly approach draft weekend. We got some risers!

                                                                https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...-new-big-board

                                                                JOK is actually down to #19 overall, which seems to be more in line with where he is projected to be drafted. Our dreams of a top 10 pick have pretty much fizzled out especially as QB appears to be absorbing all the oxygen at the top of the draft. Other ND players of note:

                                                                Tight end: # 4 Tremble
                                                                Offensive Tackle: # 5 Liam
                                                                Guard: # 3 Banks; # 7 Hainsey
                                                                Outside Linebacker: # 1 JOK

                                                                Gotta admit I'm surprised neither of the ends made the top 10 at their position this go around, but we shall see what other buzz shakes out over the next month. I think ultimately Notre Dame has 7 - 8 players picked which would be strong to quite strong.

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                                                                • #33


                                                                  This is gonna have me doubting the next couple recruit profiles

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                                                                  • #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Armyirish47 View Post
                                                                    Draft daddy Kiper has again updated his draft rankings this morning via an ESPN.com Insider article as we quickly approach draft weekend. We got some risers!

                                                                    https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...-new-big-board

                                                                    JOK is actually down to #19 overall, which seems to be more in line with where he is projected to be drafted. Our dreams of a top 10 pick have pretty much fizzled out especially as QB appears to be absorbing all the oxygen at the top of the draft. Other ND players of note:

                                                                    Tight end: # 4 Tremble
                                                                    Offensive Tackle: # 5 Liam
                                                                    Guard: # 3 Banks; # 7 Hainsey
                                                                    Outside Linebacker: # 1 JOK

                                                                    Gotta admit I'm surprised neither of the ends made the top 10 at their position this go around, but we shall see what other buzz shakes out over the next month. I think ultimately Notre Dame has 7 - 8 players picked which would be strong to quite strong.
                                                                    I actually think 9-10 guys will get drafted. All 4 OL, Tremble, 2 DE’s, JOK and borderline guys McCloud, Wright and Book.


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                                                                    • #35
                                                                      We are officially in the stretch run for the greatest non competitive event of the year! Todd McShay in an Espn.com Insider EXCLUSIVE has blown out his big board with updates through the top million or so prospects.

                                                                      https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...ition-ranks#de

                                                                      So where do our guys stand?

                                                                      # 12 JOK (# 1 Inside Linebacker) - 91 Grade
                                                                      # 33 Liam (# 5 OT) - 88 Grade
                                                                      # 92 Banksy (# 6 OG) - 73 Grade
                                                                      # 93 Tremble (# 4 TE) - 73 Grade
                                                                      # 134 Hayes (# 12 DE) - 65 Grade
                                                                      # 175 Hainsey (# 15 OT) - 57 Grade
                                                                      # 181 Ade (# 18 DE) - 55 Grade
                                                                      # 195 Javon (# 33 WR) - 52 Grade
                                                                      # 210 Skowronek (# 36 WR) - 48 Grade
                                                                      # 221 Book (# 10 QB) - 43 Grade
                                                                      # 258 Kraemer (# 20 OG) - 36 Grade

                                                                      Surprised no McCloud, but should be a fantastic weekend!

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                                                                      • #36
                                                                        With Castanzo retiring, the Colts will most likely look at taking an LOT to pair with Q. The kid out of VT seems to be something of a consensus with a lot of analysis. Read where Liam doesn't have the skill set to play that in the NFL and will have to move to the right side.

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                                                                        • #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
                                                                          With Castanzo retiring, the Colts will most likely look at taking an LOT to pair with Q. The kid out of VT seems to be something of a consensus with a lot of analysis. Read where Liam doesn't have the skill set to play that in the NFL and will have to move to the right side.
                                                                          I'm hopeful he still sneaks in the first round, almost every mock draft has a LOT of teams snapping him up with the first few picks of the second round, but hopefully that demand gets somebody to make a move and keep the Kelly LT streak alive.

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                                                                          • #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Armyirish47 View Post
                                                                            We are officially in the stretch run for the greatest non competitive event of the year! Todd McShay in an Espn.com Insider EXCLUSIVE has blown out his big board with updates through the top million or so prospects.

                                                                            https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/i...ition-ranks#de

                                                                            So where do our guys stand?

                                                                            # 12 JOK (# 1 Inside Linebacker) - 91 Grade
                                                                            # 33 Liam (# 5 OT) - 88 Grade
                                                                            # 92 Banksy (# 6 OG) - 73 Grade
                                                                            # 93 Tremble (# 4 TE) - 73 Grade
                                                                            # 134 Hayes (# 12 DE) - 65 Grade
                                                                            # 175 Hainsey (# 15 OT) - 57 Grade
                                                                            # 181 Ade (# 18 DE) - 55 Grade
                                                                            # 195 Javon (# 33 WR) - 52 Grade
                                                                            # 210 Skowronek (# 36 WR) - 48 Grade
                                                                            # 221 Book (# 10 QB) - 43 Grade
                                                                            # 258 Kraemer (# 20 OG) - 36 Grade

                                                                            Surprised no McCloud, but should be a fantastic weekend!
                                                                            Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
                                                                            With Castanzo retiring, the Colts will most likely look at taking an LOT to pair with Q. The kid out of VT seems to be something of a consensus with a lot of analysis. Read where Liam doesn't have the skill set to play that in the NFL and will have to move to the right side.
                                                                            Originally posted by Armyirish47 View Post

                                                                            I'm hopeful he still sneaks in the first round, almost every mock draft has a LOT of teams snapping him up with the first few picks of the second round, but hopefully that demand gets somebody to make a move and keep the Kelly LT streak alive.
                                                                            If the Bengals take Jamarr Chase at #5, they're going best OL available in round #2.

                                                                            It would be cool if it were Liam, but I doubt that's who they'll view as 'best available' based on his skill set.

                                                                            REALLY hoping they target Banks in round 3. That's an instant upgrade at OG, even with his testing issues.

                                                                            If they go WR - OL - OL in an OL-deep draft, I'll be satisfied.

                                                                            Honestly just hope they draft Sewell and figure out WR later on, though. Protecting Burrow is more important than getting him the pass-catcher that he wants.

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                                                                            • #39
                                                                              Originally posted by IrishLion View Post





                                                                              If the Bengals take Jamarr Chase at #5, they're going best OL available in round #2.

                                                                              It would be cool if it were Liam, but I doubt that's who they'll view as 'best available' based on his skill set.

                                                                              REALLY hoping they target Banks in round 3. That's an instant upgrade at OG, even with his testing issues.

                                                                              If they go WR - OL - OL in an OL-deep draft, I'll be satisfied.

                                                                              Honestly just hope they draft Sewell and figure out WR later on, though. Protecting Burrow is more important than getting him the pass-catcher that he wants.
                                                                              It's supposed to be a deep draft for O-line and the Bengals would be wise to get some protection in place for Burrows.

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                                                                              • #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post

                                                                                It's supposed to be a deep draft for O-line and the Bengals would be wise to get some protection in place for Burrows.
                                                                                That's why I'm conflicted about the #5 pick. All signs point to them drafting Chase if he's there, which would be stupid.

                                                                                BUT.

                                                                                The draft is so deep at OL, that they can still grab starters on the OL in the 2nd (OT) and 3rd (OG) if they draft Chase at #5.

                                                                                But Sewell is so good, that he's probably Burrow's LT for the next 10+ years, so I would prefer they take him, and rely on getting a speedster at WR later on.

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                                                                                • #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by IrishLion View Post

                                                                                  That's why I'm conflicted about the #5 pick. All signs point to them drafting Chase if he's there, which would be stupid.

                                                                                  BUT.

                                                                                  The draft is so deep at OL, that they can still grab starters on the OL in the 2nd (OT) and 3rd (OG) if they draft Chase at #5.

                                                                                  But Sewell is so good, that he's probably Burrow's LT for the next 10+ years, so I would prefer they take him, and rely on getting a speedster at WR later on.
                                                                                  Take the protection. Look what Q did for Indy. Castanzo became instantly better. Heard on the radio the difference in quality and performance was much greater between 1st and 2nd round O-line picks than it is for receivers. Also mentioned that if you took Chase, they'd be like Texas Tech. Put up a lot of yardage between the 20's, glossy numbers and a .500 record.

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                                                                                  • #42
                                                                                    I look forward to this every single year. I really contemplated taking off Friday from work, but since it's at night I held off.
                                                                                    Love You JB 64.....RIP.....AI720....4EVER

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                                                                                    • #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post

                                                                                      Take the protection. Look what Q did for Indy. Castanzo became instantly better. Heard on the radio the difference in quality and performance was much greater between 1st and 2nd round O-line picks than it is for receivers. Also mentioned that if you took Chase, they'd be like Texas Tech. Put up a lot of yardage between the 20's, glossy numbers and a .500 record.
                                                                                      This all the way. Protect your future and give the QB time to find the open guy. You can find playmakers in the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th round.

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                                                                                      • #44
                                                                                        I would not be mad if the Chiefs used every single one of their picks on OL.
                                                                                        It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                                        • #45
                                                                                          Interesting discussions on Fields. Now I'm hearing he may drop down to around the tenth pick.

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                                                                                          • #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                                                                            I would not be mad if the Chiefs used every single one of their picks on OL.
                                                                                            Didn't they already make moves to upgrade half the line or more? I am very curious to see where Liam ends up - I think he is a future pro-bowler.

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                                                                                            • #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by RDU Irish View Post

                                                                                              Didn't they already make moves to upgrade half the line or more? I am very curious to see where Liam ends up - I think he is a future pro-bowler.
                                                                                              yep traded for Orlando Brown from Ravens, signed Kyle Long from retirement, resigned Mike Remmers and Joe Thuney
                                                                                              What did Davonte do?

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                                                                                              • #48
                                                                                                I'm not sure that signing Kyle Long should be considered anything other than depth. He was pretty well beaten up his last year in the League, and spent a year retired before coming back. Thuney should be a great signing though, and trading for Brown is great.

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                                                                                                • #49
                                                                                                  Panthers traded Bridgewater to Broncos and will still eat most of his salary.
                                                                                                  Last edited by Irish#1; 04-28-2021, 03:50 PM.

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                                                                                                  • #50
                                                                                                    It sounds more and more like the Bengals are locked in on Ja’Marr Chase at no. 5.

                                                                                                    Rd 1: Chase
                                                                                                    Rd 2: OT
                                                                                                    Rd 3: OG
                                                                                                    Rd 4: EDGE
                                                                                                    Rd 5: Robert Hainsey
                                                                                                    Rd 6: ???
                                                                                                    Rd 7: ???

                                                                                                    Hainsey is gonna be a steal for some team that realizes he can plug-and-play anywhere and still operate efficiently with whoever is next to him. I hope it’s the Bengals, and I hope they plug him in at guard and somehow steal three starting OL from the same draft even AFTER passing on Sewell in rd. 1

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