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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    The Clayton Kershaw narrative might not have had Covid, but it died last night.
    As much as the haters want to argue otherwise, Kershaw is a first ballot Hall-of-Famer regardless of the WS outcome.

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  • ACamp1900
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    The Clayton Kershaw narrative might not have had Covid, but it died last night.
    Who says money can’t buy happiness (and titles)???

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  • NDdomer2
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    Originally posted by ab2cmiller View Post
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the second inning tonight, the lab doing COVID tests informed MLB that Justin Turner’s test from yesterday came back inconclusive. The samples from today had just arrived and were run. It showed up positive. The league immediately called the Dodgers and said to pull Turner.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1321303445136171008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    i dont think this answers it. if it was inconclusive he shouldnt have been playing

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  • ab2cmiller
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    Originally posted by IHateMarkMay View Post
    Can anyone tell me how they just realized in the 8th inning that Justin Turner tested positive for Covid? I thought they took the test and got results back prior to the game and, if positive, sat out.
    Last edited by ab2cmiller; 03-20-2021, 09:01 AM.

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  • Rogue219
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    The Clayton Kershaw narrative might not have had Covid, but it died last night.

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  • IHateMarkMay
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    Can anyone tell me how they just realized in the 8th inning that Justin Turner tested positive for Covid? I thought they took the test and got results back prior to the game and, if positive, sat out.

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by Irishize View Post
    I need to read the book. One of my favorite non-fiction books is “The Big Short” and as great as that movie is (better than “Moneyball” IMO), the book blows it away.

    The daughter angle makes sense. I just remember him bitching to Oakland’s owner about money and wanting to win it all. Then when he gets the offer to do just that for another organization, he turns it down...left me headscractching. Money wise he still made out like a bandit. Doesn’t he now have part ownership in the A’s and a couple of soccer teams?
    I have read the Big Short and The Blind Side as well, but you have to read Moneyball if you haven't already.

    I think initially, he was pissed that they could never keep their talent. That's when he realized he needed to figure out a way to do more with less. He wanted to win with Oakland, and Boston is way more high profile than Oakland, especially at the time when they still hadn't won anything since 1918.

    The guy is doing fine, ultimately. Paul DePodesta (who was portrayed by Jonah Hill as Peter Brand) got a GM gig with the Dodgers, worked for Sandy Alderson wih the Mets and his now with the Cleveland Browns. They all did fine.

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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    Read the book, if you haven't. Movie is great, don't get me wrong, but the book is leaps and bounds superior.

    His ex wife and early teenaged daughter lived in L.A. at the time. That puts him on the other side of the country if he goes to Boston, and if you saw the movie, you saw his daughter visiting him in Oakland often during the summer. That angle wasn't as played up in the book, but that was very real.

    There was some interest from and with the Dodgers, but it never materialized, obviously. I think above all else he wanted to win in Oakland using their model. 20 years later, everyone is doing the same damn things and some are doing it better with more money. Book may have been the worst thing they could have done, but it was likely inevitable regardless of the book.

    He says he has no regrets. Most don't believe him. I do, based on all I have ever read about him.
    I need to read the book. One of my favorite non-fiction books is “The Big Short” and as great as that movie is (better than “Moneyball” IMO), the book blows it away.

    The daughter angle makes sense. I just remember him bitching to Oakland’s owner about money and wanting to win it all. Then when he gets the offer to do just that for another organization, he turns it down...left me headscractching. Money wise he still made out like a bandit. Doesn’t he now have part ownership in the A’s and a couple of soccer teams?

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by Irishize View Post
    Since Netflix just added it, I decided to re-watch “Moneyball”. I never understood by Beane turned down Boston. He was pretty clear that he had one goal....win it all. He finally gets a Blue Blood to offer him that opportunity plus the fact that BoSox bought in to Sabermetrics when they hired Bill James...so why turn it down?
    Read the book, if you haven't. Movie is great, don't get me wrong, but the book is leaps and bounds superior.

    His ex wife and early teenaged daughter lived in L.A. at the time. That puts him on the other side of the country if he goes to Boston, and if you saw the movie, you saw his daughter visiting him in Oakland often during the summer. That angle wasn't as played up in the book, but that was very real.

    There was some interest from and with the Dodgers, but it never materialized, obviously. I think above all else he wanted to win in Oakland using their model. 20 years later, everyone is doing the same damn things and some are doing it better with more money. Book may have been the worst thing they could have done, but it was likely inevitable regardless of the book.

    He says he has no regrets. Most don't believe him. I do, based on all I have ever read about him.

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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    Rays are nothing if not resilient, but the Dodgers should win the Andrew Friedman Bowl.
    Since Netflix just added it, I decided to re-watch “Moneyball”. I never understood by Beane turned down Boston. He was pretty clear that he had one goal....win it all. He finally gets a Blue Blood to offer him that opportunity plus the fact that BoSox bought in to Sabermetrics when they hired Bill James...so why turn it down?

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by Irishize View Post
    My two favorite sports teams are ND & the Dodgers. Ironically, the last time either won a championship was 1988 when I was a senior in HS. Obviously, I want the Dodgers to win but it won’t be easy.

    I suspect the Rays rebound tonight for a win and the series goes 6-7 games. Hoping for the best. Kershaw had a great outing last night but no one remembers Game 1 pitching performances (see Game 1 of 2017 WS).
    Rays are nothing if not resilient, but the Dodgers should win the Andrew Friedman Bowl.

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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    Best possible outcome of the four teams remaining. Friedman's Dodgers vs the Rays. Awesome stuff and a good story line there.

    Hoping the Rays win it, but wouldn't be bent out of shape to see Friedman win one. I think he belongs up there with the top execs. Doesn't get a lot of credit compared to some of the other guys out there, particularly those who have more financial resources at their disposal.

    Hopefully a competitive series like the LCS both were. Two Game 7s doesn't get any better.
    My two favorite sports teams are ND & the Dodgers. Ironically, the last time either won a championship was 1988 when I was a senior in HS. Obviously, I want the Dodgers to win but it won’t be easy.

    I suspect the Rays rebound tonight for a win and the series goes 6-7 games. Hoping for the best. Kershaw had a great outing last night but no one remembers Game 1 pitching performances (see Game 1 of 2017 WS).

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  • Rogue219
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    Imagine having this Mookie Betts guy and trading him.

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  • Rogue219
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    Best possible outcome of the four teams remaining. Friedman's Dodgers vs the Rays. Awesome stuff and a good story line there.

    Hoping the Rays win it, but wouldn't be bent out of shape to see Friedman win one. I think he belongs up there with the top execs. Doesn't get a lot of credit compared to some of the other guys out there, particularly those who have more financial resources at their disposal.

    Hopefully a competitive series like the LCS both were. Two Game 7s doesn't get any better.

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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    Plenty of blame to go around. There always is. It is a familiar story all the way around.

    One thing I have discovered during this shortened season and expanded postseason is that there are quite a few pitchers I have never heard of that all seem to throw high 90s to 100 MPH with filthy disgusting breaking stuff. That being said, if you can get a walk, just take the fucker and be happy because the idea of "just making contact" is our grandpa and dad's baseball. Off speed pitches are in the low 90s now. YOU go make contact with that filth.

    The manager has control of the pitching staff. This is the second time now in the post season that Roberts has failed to lift Kershaw at a critical time when even my nine year old daughter knew he had to take him out. He let Ozuna have a third look at Kershaw and the game was hanging on by the skin of their teeth. That's systemic failure on his part and it isn't the first time.

    The Dodgers are not done, but they're hanging onto the side of the building.
    I agree. Roberts may be too much of a “player’s coach” to get them over the hump. It was inexcusable last season when Roberts brought Kershaw in for a perfect inning of relief & then mistakenly trotted him back out there to give up back-to-back bombs that lost the game. He would’ve looked like a maestro had he just kept Kershaw in the dugout & thanked him for doing his “job” on short notice.

    Last night was not as bad when you consider Graterol got lit up worse than Kershaw but I still agree w/ your point. Still, my biggest complaint is two recent MVPs & a slew of accomplished hitters couldn’t swat a fly last night or in Games 1-2.

    Lastly, not that they’ll need him to save any wins today or tomorrow but Kenley Jansen should never be a closer again. His cutter doesn’t cut half the time & he has zero velocity. Graterol is the future closer.

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by Irishize View Post
    I felt like that last year after the Nats eliminated them but now I’m not so sure. He can’t go to bat for those stiffs who all the sudden couldn’t hit sand if they fell off a camel. Their only way on base is a walk. If not, they’re striking out or popping out. Pitiful.
    Plenty of blame to go around. There always is. It is a familiar story all the way around.

    One thing I have discovered during this shortened season and expanded postseason is that there are quite a few pitchers I have never heard of that all seem to throw high 90s to 100 MPH with filthy disgusting breaking stuff. That being said, if you can get a walk, just take the fucker and be happy because the idea of "just making contact" is our grandpa and dad's baseball. Off speed pitches are in the low 90s now. YOU go make contact with that filth.

    The manager has control of the pitching staff. This is the second time now in the post season that Roberts has failed to lift Kershaw at a critical time when even my nine year old daughter knew he had to take him out. He let Ozuna have a third look at Kershaw and the game was hanging on by the skin of their teeth. That's systemic failure on his part and it isn't the first time.

    The Dodgers are not done, but they're hanging onto the side of the building.

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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    Dave Roberts is like a kid who put BOTH hands on the burning stove once only to not learn his lesson and do it again.

    I am thinking he's going to be on the market once the Dodger season is over.


    And Chicago should hire him instead of Tony LaRussa, yes.
    I felt like that last year after the Nats eliminated them but now I’m not so sure. He can’t go to bat for those stiffs who all the sudden couldn’t hit sand if they fell off a camel. Their only way on base is a walk. If not, they’re striking out or popping out. Pitiful.

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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by Irishize View Post
    When I tuned in, it was 11-0 in top of first inning. Unreal. I suspect it was LA’s last gasp before they implode today & tomorrow. Hope I’m wrong.
    I was not wrong. It’s over.

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  • Rogue219
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    Dave Roberts is like a kid who put BOTH hands on the burning stove once only to not learn his lesson and do it again.

    I am thinking he's going to be on the market once the Dodger season is over.


    And Chicago should hire him instead of Tony LaRussa, yes.

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by ACamp1900 View Post
    Hard to believe it’s taking Washington this long to get another crack,...
    I agree, and he wants one, too.

    He's 68 years old but he's with it as far as what front offices want, which is to believe in math.

    He admitted the extramarital affair he was having in 2014 and he's battled substance abuse as well, but was a finalist for the Braves job when it last opened. They were smart and hired him to coach third to replace Bo Porter when he moved to the front office.

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  • ACamp1900
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    Hard to believe it’s taking Washington this long to get another crack,...

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  • Rogue219
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    The Braves assistant GM is probably going to be a good candidate for the Angels or Phillies job. Perry Minasian is his name, I believe.

    Ron Washington and Matt Quartaro are two guys the White Sox should have a look at, though they appear interested in dragging Tony LaRussa's old, drinky bones out for an interview for whatever reason.

    Ron Washington managing that White Sox team would make them even more of a compelling team to track in the next few years.

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  • ACamp1900
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    Originally posted by Irishize View Post
    When I tuned in, it was 11-0 in top of first inning. Unreal. I suspect it was LA’s last gasp before they implode today & tomorrow. Hope I’m wrong.
    I actually get the opposite vibe, hope I’m wrong...

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by Irishize View Post
    When I tuned in, it was 11-0 in top of first inning. Unreal. I suspect it was LA’s last gasp before they implode today & tomorrow. Hope I’m wrong.
    Kershaw is going next, and after digging into ATL's bullpen like they just did, that's a good scenario for the Dodgers.

    Would have liked to have seen the Astros swept, though I have never appreciatede Dusty Baker more until now.

    Still, the Rays last five years worth of payrolls are about as much as what the Yankees gave Gerit Cole. Sign me up for them to win this thing.

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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    So they both finally lost. The Braves in rather spectacular fashion.
    When I tuned in, it was 11-0 in top of first inning. Unreal. I suspect it was LA’s last gasp before they implode today & tomorrow. Hope I’m wrong.

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    The Braves and Rays are playing like they won't lose again. So when they face off it should be fun.
    So they both finally lost. The Braves in rather spectacular fashion.

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  • Rogue219
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    The Braves and Rays are playing like they won't lose again. So when they face off it should be fun.

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  • ACamp1900
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    Loving this game right now,...

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  • Rogue219
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    The first two games of the ALCS have been utterly crazy. I have no idea what the ratings look like, and frankly I could be the only person on Earth watching and I wouldn't care.

    Look at the numbers and then ask yourself how the Rays have scored more runs and are up 2-0. Simple answer is ball go far, team go far.

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  • ACamp1900
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    The amount of home runs in the Astros series,... Good. Lord. It’s only game four and they already broke the all time record.

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  • Rogue219
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    People need to stop trading with the Tampa Rays.

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  • zelezo vlk
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    Lol cubs

    Sent from my SM-J337U using Tapatalk

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  • ACamp1900
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    Marlins just broke the streak,... starting with the first round of the the Stanley Cup playoffs (not the play in the actual first round) every single team I rooted for in either first round lost. Every. Single. One. I was starting to get pretty down on myself,.......

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  • Rogue219
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    Love the game right now. The talent is staggering. So many games, so many pitchers I have never heard of throwing 100 MPH. Happy to have baseball in October and looking forward to what comes next.

    As a Pirates fan, I have to live vicariously through everyone and everything else. At least the Twins have gotten a few bites at the apple compared to the Bucs.

    Fernando Tatis Jr., Luis Robert....wow.

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  • ACamp1900
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    Just had a mic’d up player backfire in the Oakland/Sox game,... not sure if it was the mic’d player or what but a clear, ‘stop fucking around!!’ Live in air. Lol

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  • Irishize
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    Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
    I'm done. I dont see a point in watching another game until they win a playoff game. At this point its just bizarre. Even a terrible baseball team wins like 40% of the time, unless you are the Minnesota Twins and you are in the playoffs.
    Perspective: the Twins have a more recent WS championship than the following teams:


    Los Angeles Dodgers
    San Diego Padres
    Oakland A’s
    Seattle Mariners
    New York Mets
    Milwaukee Brewers
    Texas Rangers
    Detroit Tigers
    Baltimore Orioles
    Tampa Bay Rays
    Colorado Rockies
    Pittsburgh Pirates
    Cincinnati Reds
    Cleveland Indians

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  • mango4
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    Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
    I'm done. I dont see a point in watching another game until they win a playoff game. At this point its just bizarre. Even a terrible baseball team wins like 40% of the time, unless you are the Minnesota Twins and you are in the playoffs.
    From the Athletic:
    The Twins have now lost 18 postseason games in a row. Yeah, 18. You know how hard it is to do that, for a team good enough to make the playoffs? Let’s put it this way. In the past 100 years, only nine teams have lost 18 or more in a row in the regular season. And every one of those teams was brutal. They averaged 103 losses. So you can understand how teams like that lose 18 in a row.
    They had the best record in baseball in September and the best home record. They still got swept.

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  • NorthDakota
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    Originally posted by mango4 View Post
    Baseball is stupid, I give up. 18 straight playoff losses? Come on.
    I'm done. I dont see a point in watching another game until they win a playoff game. At this point its just bizarre. Even a terrible baseball team wins like 40% of the time, unless you are the Minnesota Twins and you are in the playoffs.

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  • mango4
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    Baseball is stupid, I give up. 18 straight playoff losses? Come on.

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  • IrishLion
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    Cincinnati had runners on 1st and 3rd with no outs in the first inning... got nothing out of it, with Trevor Bauer on the mound.

    Getting big "A Cincinnati Team Is Playing In The Playoffs" vibes right now.

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  • Irish#1
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    Originally posted by Irish2155 View Post
    To add a little more context on how long it's been for the Twins....I believe their last playoff win was the same year that the Sox rallied back from 0-3 against the Yanks. And there is already an ESPN 30 for 30 out on that...

    Your boys wanted no piece of Papi and the self proclaimed "idiots", NY had to learn the hard way. :)
    You Red Sox fans are so insufferable!

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  • Irish#1
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    Originally posted by NDdomer2 View Post
    So is this the first and last year of the expanded playoff? I know it's a shortened season but seeing a team with a sub .500 record in is crazy. Also seeing on division get 4/5 teams in doesn't sit right either.
    I think the intent was to ensure the better teams that might get off to a slow start would still have a chance to make the playoffs.

    I wouldn't be surprised if MLB expands the number of teams permanently.

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  • Irish2155
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    Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
    I think their last playoff series win was against the money-ball A's. That alone is forever.
    To add a little more context on how long it's been for the Twins....I believe their last playoff win was the same year that the Sox rallied back from 0-3 against the Yanks. And there is already an ESPN 30 for 30 out on that...

    Your boys wanted no piece of Papi and the self proclaimed "idiots", NY had to learn the hard way. :)

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  • NorthDakota
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    Originally posted by ACamp1900 View Post
    Crazy, considering they’ve been in the playoffs quite a bit this century and their last win was when my Halos were defending champs or some such,... ouch.
    I think their last playoff series win was against the money-ball A's. That alone is forever.

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  • ACamp1900
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    Crazy, considering they’ve been in the playoffs quite a bit this century and their last win was when my Halos were defending champs or some such,... ouch.

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  • NorthDakota
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    Twins appear on their way to losing their SEVENTEENTH CONSECUTIVE PLAYOFF GAME

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by NDdomer2 View Post
    id have to go back and look at past seasons but I fee like two more playoff teams is always going to be pushing close to that .500 mark
    I don't think this is going to stay come 2021. I hope it doesn't, anyway. I would agree that seeing .500 teams in the postseason is not ideal in terms of consumption.

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  • NorthDakota
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    Originally posted by NDCrusader View Post
    I'm so glad the Sox went from a guaranteed showdown with the Dodgers to the 7th seed in a week. I would've had egg on my face if they got to the Series a year early.

    That said, they have to beat the A's. Somehow, two of my best friends are rabid A's fans (70's kids) and my best friend is a Cubs fan with the A's as his back up team.

    Oddly enough, I grew up 2 miles from Charlie Finley's house in LaPorte, IN and played for the Springfield Twp A's.
    Twins are the only team that matter.

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  • NDdomer2
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    Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    You won't have to worry about it for another 100 years when the next pandemic hits. I, for one, am thankful we even got to see baseball this year.
    id have to go back and look at past seasons but I fee like two more playoff teams is always going to be pushing close to that .500 mark

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  • Rogue219
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    Originally posted by NDdomer2 View Post
    So is this the first and last year of the expanded playoff? I know it's a shortened season but seeing a team with a sub .500 record in is crazy. Also seeing on division get 4/5 teams in doesn't sit right either.
    You won't have to worry about it for another 100 years when the next pandemic hits. I, for one, am thankful we even got to see baseball this year.

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