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  • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
    Boston was never considering anyone else. And the news dump might be one of the most epic in history.

    The White Sox hire went from embarrassing to worse.

    Meanwhile, the Tigers hired AJ Hinch and have immediately gone to hiring a field staff which includes Michigan pitching coach Chris Fetters.

    Let your front office people do their jobs. Simple concept.
    Is Chris Fetters related to former MLB (Brewers) pitcher Mike Fetters?

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    • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
      Is Chris Fetters related to former MLB (Brewers) pitcher Mike Fetters?
      Forgive me, his name is Chris Fetter. No S at the end.

      So I am guessing no.

      Here is his bio: https://mgoblue.com/sports/baseball/...is-fetter/5354

      White Sox were said to be targeting him, among other teams. He goes back a bit with Hinch.

      Tigers are making it happen.
      It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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      • Pirates General Manager Ben Cherington announced John Baker as our Director of Coaching and Player Development.

        The former catcher spent 7 seasons in the big leagues and most recently was the MLB Head Mental Skills Coach with the Cubs.
        Excellent. The club just got better today.
        It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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        • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
          The Braves assistant GM is probably going to be a good candidate for the Angels or Phillies job. Perry Minasian is his name, I believe..
          Keep your eyes peeled in the coming days.
          It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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          • Saw a meme w/ LaRussa’s ChiSox jersey w/ the # .8 as in alcohol level

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            • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
              Saw a meme w/ LaRussaís ChiSox jersey w/ the # .8 as in alcohol level
              He's in the Hall of Fame, though, so it's okay.

              The club tweeted a Thank You to veterans for Veteran's Day but have yet to make a statement about the DUI.

              Quite an interesting show they're running in Chicago.
              It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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              • Perry Minasian is the Angels’ new general manager, sources tell The Athletic.
                Ken Rosenthal.

                I really like this hire.
                It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                • Marlins hire Kim Ng as their General Manager.

                  Beyond qualified, well deserved at long last and historic. Another good hire.
                  It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                  • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                    He's in the Hall of Fame, though, so it's okay.

                    The club tweeted a Thank You to veterans for Veteran's Day but have yet to make a statement about the DUI.

                    Quite an interesting show they're running in Chicago.
                    May be the douchiest person of the month and thatís saying something. He needs to go away. Go dig up Al Lopez to coach them. At least he took them to a WS.

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                    • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
                      May be the douchiest person of the month and thatís saying something. He needs to go away. Go dig up Al Lopez to coach them. At least he took them to a WS.
                      I don't disagree. There were plenty of other candidates out there they could have hired.
                      It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                      • How long you been a Pirate fan Rogue?

                        I visited Pitt for the first time a little less than a year ago. Really loved the city...especially the stadiums...beautiful.

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                        • Awesome clip of Honus Wagner from 1933 when he was 59 years old.

                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1933: Honus Wagner talking about his career, taking some swings &amp; fielding ground balls. This is amazing! <a href="https://twitter.com/Pirates?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Pirates</a> <a href="https://t.co/sa1Hkwz0CS">pic.twitter.com/sa1Hkwz0CS</a></p>&mdash; Stirrups Now! (@uniformcritic) <a href="https://twitter.com/uniformcritic/status/1327782724594184202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                          • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
                            How long you been a Pirate fan Rogue?

                            I visited Pitt for the first time a little less than a year ago. Really loved the city...especially the stadiums...beautiful.
                            Feels like about 300 years.

                            I have been to 22 of the current ballparks and PNC is easily my favorite. SF Giants is a good second, though.
                            It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                            • Theo Epstein has resigned as president of baseball operations for the Chicago Cubs. Jed Hoyer is the new president of baseball operations.

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                              • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                Feels like about 300 years.

                                I have been to 22 of the current ballparks and PNC is easily my favorite. SF Giants is a good second, though.
                                Nice. Off the top of my head, Iíve been to the following (nowhere near your 22):

                                Dodger Stadium
                                Wrigley Field
                                Citi Field
                                Turner Field
                                Busch Stadium
                                Ballpark at Arlington
                                Kaufman Stadium
                                Camden Yards
                                Petco

                                PNC is beautiful. Iíve just driven by it & seen it on TV. Hope to visit soon.

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                                • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
                                  Theo Epstein has resigned as president of baseball operations for the Chicago Cubs. Jed Hoyer is the new president of baseball operations.
                                  if he's not a first ballot HOF'er there's no such thing. Broke two curses in a span of 15 years.
                                  Love You JB 64.....RIP.....AI720....4EVER

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                                  • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
                                    Theo Epstein has resigned as president of baseball operations for the Chicago Cubs. Jed Hoyer is the new president of baseball operations.
                                    He doesn't want to be the guy that has to trade Kris Bryant. Eternally grateful for what he did for the Cubs regardless of what the current roster looks like.
                                    60% of the time, it works every time.

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                                    • 2015-2020 was the most successful period of Cubs baseball since the 1930s, if not ever.

                                      Getting Dexter Fowler back in 2016 was a huge stroke of luck for them. He had the best year of his career and they won a World Series.

                                      Some trades and free agent money didn't work out for him, but overall, what he's done with Boston and Chicago seals the deal on Cooperstown for him. He can really do whatever he wants.
                                      It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                      • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
                                        Nice. Off the top of my head, I’ve been to the following (nowhere near your 22):

                                        Dodger Stadium
                                        Wrigley Field
                                        Citi Field
                                        Turner Field
                                        Busch Stadium
                                        Ballpark at Arlington
                                        Kaufman Stadium
                                        Camden Yards
                                        Petco

                                        PNC is beautiful. I’ve just driven by it & seen it on TV. Hope to visit soon.
                                        Do a night game in summer. You will not regret it. For my money, the best park in baseball. Really cool area around the park too with bars, restaurants, shops. Just a neat experience.

                                        PNC
                                        Fenway
                                        Wrigley
                                        Dodger
                                        Angel
                                        Oakland Coliseum
                                        Kaufman
                                        Skydome
                                        Tropicana
                                        White Sox
                                        Camden
                                        Progressive
                                        Coors
                                        Chase
                                        Comerica
                                        Minute Maid
                                        Oracle
                                        Miller
                                        Great American
                                        Busch
                                        Target
                                        Nationals
                                        It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                        • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                          2015-2020 was the most successful period of Cubs baseball since the 1930s, if not ever.

                                          Getting Dexter Fowler back in 2016 was a huge stroke of luck for them. He had the best year of his career and they won a World Series.

                                          Some trades and free agent money didn't work out for him, but overall, what he's done with Boston and Chicago seals the deal on Cooperstown for him. He can really do whatever he wants.
                                          Absolutely. I would never trade 2016 for anything but it does sting to see what we've traded away over the years, some of it for very little return.
                                          60% of the time, it works every time.

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                                          • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                            2015-2020 was the most successful period of Cubs baseball since the 1930s, if not ever.

                                            Getting Dexter Fowler back in 2016 was a huge stroke of luck for them. He had the best year of his career and they won a World Series.

                                            Some trades and free agent money didn't work out for him, but overall, what he's done with Boston and Chicago seals the deal on Cooperstown for him. He can really do whatever he wants.
                                            The ex and I flew out to Boston one year for her company's Xmas party. That just so happened to be the same year Indy was hosting the baseball winter meetings. On the flight out I was sitting in the seat over right behind Theo and, as a BoSox fan, digesting his laptop/big board of free agents and seeing how he had everyone ranked was like one of the coolest things ever.

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                                            • Coolest scenario I've seen so far is Theo is interested in becoming an owner and Jerry Reinsdorf is said to maybe want another one or two years as chairman of the White Sox and then he's calling it quits.

                                              You can connect the rest of the dots.
                                              It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                              • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                                Coolest scenario I've seen so far is Theo is interested in becoming an owner and Jerry Reinsdorf is said to maybe want another one or two years as chairman of the White Sox and then he's calling it quits.

                                                You can connect the rest of the dots.
                                                Where is Theo going to get enough money to buy a team? He's rich, but he makes just a bit more than the average MLB player.
                                                60% of the time, it works every time.

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                                                • Originally posted by Irishnuke View Post
                                                  Where is Theo going to get enough money to buy a team? He's rich, but he makes just a bit more than the average MLB player.
                                                  I assume he'd be the head of a group. He has a net worth of $25M according to the Google Machine.
                                                  It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                  • https://blogs.fangraphs.com/kim-ng-b...-two-ceilings/

                                                    Great Fangraphs piece on Kim Ng.

                                                    There is some mess to clean up but some good pieces to work with in the farm system. Someone with her amount of experience working for the White Sox, Yankees and Dodgers should be an interesting fit with a club like the Marlins.
                                                    It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                    • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                                      https://blogs.fangraphs.com/kim-ng-b...-two-ceilings/

                                                      Great Fangraphs piece on Kim Ng.

                                                      There is some mess to clean up but some good pieces to work with in the farm system. Someone with her amount of experience working for the White Sox, Yankees and Dodgers should be an interesting fit with a club like the Marlins.
                                                      That is exciting news, imo. Her experience will definitely be a plus imo, especially in a situation lilke MIA.

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                                                      • The KBO World Series trophy is significantly cooler than any trophy in North American sports. By a long shot.
                                                        It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                        • One third of non tendered players were right handed relievers.
                                                          It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                          • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                                            One third of non tendered players were right handed relievers.
                                                            Lots of former first rounders non tendered as well.

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                                                            • From Buster Olney:

                                                              Re: The universal DH:
                                                              1. NL teams have been told to work under the assumption they will have no DH next season.
                                                              2. Almost everyone you talk to at the team level assumes there WILL be a universal DH in 2021, after MLB-PA talks.
                                                              3. The lack of clarity is affecting early bidding.

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                                                              • Do it. Well past time.
                                                                It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                                                  Do it. Well past time.
                                                                  Probably a done deal after MLB-PA talks. You know the MLBPA is Ďall iní b/c thatís more job creation for them. Should be a win-win for all involved...owners, players & fans.

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                                                                  • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
                                                                    Probably a done deal after MLB-PA talks. You know the MLBPA is Ďall iní b/c thatís more job creation for them. Should be a win-win for all involved...owners, players & fans.
                                                                    I don't care to see pitchers at the plate. It isn't at the top of my baseball or sports consumption agenda.
                                                                    It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                    • What to nickname the Cleveland baseball team now....

                                                                      Flying Fellers
                                                                      Battered Bastards
                                                                      Rockers
                                                                      Flaming Cuyahogans
                                                                      Black Sox

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                                                                      • Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                                                                        What to nickname the Cleveland baseball team now....

                                                                        Flying Fellers
                                                                        Battered Bastards
                                                                        Rockers
                                                                        Flaming Cuyahogans
                                                                        Black Sox
                                                                        Spiders

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                                                                        • Cleveland River Fires

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                                                                          • Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                                                                            What to nickname the Cleveland baseball team now....

                                                                            Flying Fellers
                                                                            Battered Bastards
                                                                            Rockers
                                                                            Flaming Cuyahogans
                                                                            Black Sox
                                                                            Benders
                                                                            60% of the time, it works every time.

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                                                                            • Armpits

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                                                                              • Bone Thugs

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                                                                                • Originally posted by Irishize View Post
                                                                                  Spiders
                                                                                  YES!!
                                                                                  It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                                  • Cleveland:

                                                                                    1. Spiders
                                                                                    2. Buckeyes (Negro League team in Cleveland back in the day)
                                                                                    3. Blue Sox
                                                                                    It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                                    • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                                                                      Cleveland:

                                                                                      1. Spiders
                                                                                      2. Buckeyes (Negro League team in Cleveland back in the day)
                                                                                      3. Blue Sox
                                                                                      would they dare go double buckeyes on ohio?
                                                                                      Prehistoric

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                                                                                      • Originally posted by NDdomer2 View Post
                                                                                        would they dare go double buckeyes on ohio?
                                                                                        Merch sales would be crazy I'd assume, right?

                                                                                        Maybe Monarchs then, the KC Monarch of the Negro League. They were a top club.

                                                                                        Spiders would be cool, though. That's gotta be it. Richmond won't care. LOL
                                                                                        It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                                        • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
                                                                                          Merch sales would be crazy I'd assume, right?

                                                                                          Maybe Monarchs then, the KC Monarch of the Negro League. They were a top club.

                                                                                          Spiders would be cool, though. That's gotta be it. Richmond won't care. LOL
                                                                                          Spiders is so obvious. I think they already have logos and mock ups.

                                                                                          Monarchs is a good call. No other major pro sports team has that yet itís a pretty benign yet respectable name.

                                                                                          Iím not going to lie, when I was a kid growing up in the late 70s i thought the red tops with the crooked letters spelling Indians & the hat w/ the crooked ĎCí was hideous. Fast forward to today & they are fire when it comes to retro throwback. I remember big ole Boog Powell & Frank Robinson wearing the red tops w/ red bottoms....vomit inducing.

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                                                                                          • https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...d-chicago-cubs

                                                                                            My God. WTF is wrong with people?
                                                                                            It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                                            • With the loss of Hank Aaron, I mentioned on the RIP thread he was joining his younger brother Tommie in heaven. Tommie was a light hitting 1B w/ the Braves in the late 60s but pretty much a role player. Think of Chris Gwynn to Tony Gwynn as far as careers of brothers.

                                                                                              I flippantly included Ozzie Canseco who had a cup of coffee in the Majors but was not impressive other than being an identical twin to Jose. I think his career started as a pitcher TBH.

                                                                                              Anyways Ozzie & Jose being twins was always my basis that steroids/PEDs don’t equal major league success as both Ozzie & Jose ingested their fair share of PEDs. One was a superstar & the other was an afterthought.

                                                                                              Then I listened to a great Malcolm Gladwell podcast where he documented Andy Pettitte’s case of PED use. If you recall Andy’s case he stated that the time(s) he used PED was during stints on the DL to speed up his recovery so he could get back in the rotation and “help my team”. The positive tests & documentation backed this up according to Gladwell.

                                                                                              Gladwell then posited this question: “If PEDs to aid/hasten recovery are frowned upon, why isn’t UCL (Tommy John) surgery in injury situations?” Both treatments/procedure were used to get pitchers back to the game after injury.

                                                                                              Thought it was good food for thought so would love to hear everyone’s opinion on the matter. Yes, I realize that not all players accused or proven to have used PEDs used them during rehab assignments or DL stints. So assume for the sake of argument we are just talking about Pettitte’s situation since his was documented as have only used while injured.
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                                                                                              • Just about everyone was on the juice in the 90s and 2000s minus maybe Griffey Jr. Chicks dig the long ball, so the MLB looked the other way. Hell, half my college team were on the juice which kind of pissed me off competing for at bats. I’d use to drop off “the package” from our catcher in Fort Wayne to one of my U of Anderson buddies I played summer ball with...he went on to play centerfield for Team USA in slow pitch softball. Probably gained about 50 lbs of straight muscle too. Miken actually still makes a softball bat in his name.

                                                                                                I do think that Bonds and Clemens should be HofFers though because they cemented that legacy prior to getting huge. And bc the MLB looked the other way for so long. Had they not have done that then I might feel a little differently.
                                                                                                Last edited by Irish2155; 01-23-2021, 05:09 PM.

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                                                                                                • One of my roommates got on it over Xmas break our senior year (6 weeks about) and came back about 30 lbs heavier and just ripped. He wasn’t going to see much PT until he juiced up and ended being our starting catcher by the end of the year.

                                                                                                  On a side note, he was from Cincy and had Tommy John the year before too and rehabbed with then Reds closer Scott Williamson at the Reds complex. He said that Griffey Jr was lazy as shit. He wouldn’t even touch a weight let alone juice.

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                                                                                                  • Originally posted by Irish2155 View Post
                                                                                                    One of my roommates got on it over Xmas break our senior year (6 weeks about) and came back about 30 lbs heavier and just ripped. He wasnít going to see much PT until he juiced up and ended being our starting catcher by the end of the year.

                                                                                                    On a side note, he was from Cincy and had Tommy John the year before too and rehabbed with then Reds closer Scott Williamson at the Reds complex. He said that Griffey Jr was lazy as shit. He wouldnít even touch a weight let alone juice.
                                                                                                    LOL. Thatís great. I love Griffey but I always maintained that he was so gifted that he was able to get by on pure athleticism as until he hit his 30s. Once he got older, all those collisions w/ walls start to add up & if he wasnít staying fit in the training room, it probably cost him those last 4-5 years where he really struggled to be the Griffey of old...much less healthy for 162 games.

                                                                                                    I remember hearing stories about Griffey & Pete Rose, Jr going to HS together and competing on who could drive the coolest sports car. I believe they went to Moeller High. I also recall Griffey recounting a time when Bonds visited him at his house in Ď98 when the McGwire/Sosa HR race was captivating America. Griffey said the tv was on and the broadcast was really hyping the race. It was at that moment that Bonds said something to the effect of, ďokay, if thatís what they want...its onĒ. I wish I could remember where that Griffey interview is so I could link it but thatís what I remembered most.

                                                                                                    No way Griffey juiced.

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                                                                                                    • Originally posted by Irish2155 View Post
                                                                                                      Just about everyone was on the juice in the 90s and 2000s minus maybe Griffey Jr. Chicks dig the long ball, so the MLB looked the other way. Hell, half my college team were on the juice which kind of pissed me off competing for at bats. Iíd use to drop off ďthe packageĒ from our catcher in Fort Wayne to one of my U of Anderson buddies I played summer ball with...he went on to play centerfield for Team USA in slow pitch softball. Probably gained about 50 lbs of straight muscle too. Miken actually still makes a softball bat in his name.

                                                                                                      I do think that Bonds and Clemens should be HofFers though because they cemented that legacy prior to getting huge. And bc the MLB looked the other way for so long. Had they not have done that then I might feel a little differently.
                                                                                                      It wasnít illegal period. Iím not condoning it but I think itís impossible to weed out every user. We know there are likely users in the HOF already.

                                                                                                      Agreed with you on Bonds & Clemens. With Bonds, he was a great all-around player. He could do it all w/ a possible exception of his arm which wasnít the strongest. That said, I saw him having a Clemente or even Aaron type of career before he buffed up to Herculean size.

                                                                                                      If I had to bet when Clemens started it wouldíve been when Boston decided not to re-sign him. I think the GM Duquette even criticized him for being past his prime. This had to motivate Clemens b/c he reeled off two phenomenal seasons w/ the Blue Jays and continued to dominate through the end of his career. Maybe it was all about getting past injuries & staying healthy but he never seemed to stop using.

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