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  • Originally posted by Pops Freshenmeyer View Post

    He wasn't really a big name as a position coach prior to his stint with Notre Dame.

    So I think there was more than just Harry Hiestand behind that success.
    He was hated while at Tennessee which made me a little worried when he came to ND. Tennessee was a shitshow during those years so not sure he had a chance.
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    • Originally posted by BoredIrish View Post

      Do we know that they "were going to him" or was it that they "went to him"? IIRC, one visit was confirmed but I'm not sure where the notion of going multiple times comes from?

      Furthermore... Harry is an Ex-NFL coach. I'm not sure why it is so strange that aspiring NFL O-Linemen would go visit an Ex-NFL O-Line coach who happens to live a stones throw from campus and who they have a long history with.

      Lastly, isnt it well documented that Eichenberg was not a fan of Harry and that his development was stunted until Harry left?

      On another note... for all the people calling for Chris Watt to come back, wasn't it reported that there was tension between Chip Long and Jeff Quinn? Presumably the fact that Watt went to work for Long would indicate that he was on Chip Long's side... and presumably Tommy and Lance Taylor were on the Quinn side. Not sure how that relationship would work?
      Maybe, but it could be that Watt was simply still on good terms with Long, unlike Long and Quinn.

      And he used his prior relationship to get a promotion. Can't say I blame him.
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      • Originally posted by BoredIrish View Post

        Do we know that they "were going to him" or was it that they "went to him"? IIRC, one visit was confirmed but I'm not sure where the notion of going multiple times comes from?

        Furthermore... Harry is an Ex-NFL coach. I'm not sure why it is so strange that aspiring NFL O-Linemen would go visit an Ex-NFL O-Line coach who happens to live a stones throw from campus and who they have a long history with.

        Lastly, isnt it well documented that Eichenberg was not a fan of Harry and that his development was stunted until Harry left?

        On another note... for all the people calling for Chris Watt to come back, wasn't it reported that there was tension between Chip Long and Jeff Quinn? Presumably the fact that Watt went to work for Long would indicate that he was on Chip Long's side... and presumably Tommy and Lance Taylor were on the Quinn side. Not sure how that relationship would work?
        Yeah, it's not abnormal to get extra work in with a specialist or expert. Almost all players do it. A lot of people think it's a total nothingburger, but I think it's a weird look to have one of your current coaches taking you to a former coach in order to get additional training.

        On the tension thing -- to oversimplify this, Quinn and Long did not see eye-to-eye. I do not think that necessarily means that there were battle lines drawn with various assistants. I think when you're a GA you're looking for whatever job you can get and that's often with guys you have connections to.


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        • Originally posted by Crazy Balki View Post

          Same people who spread this rumor also said Quinn didn't do film study.

          This has since been proven false.
          Didn't hear about the film study, but Watt confirmed the players were going to Harry.

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          • Originally posted by ulukinatme View Post

            Didn't hear about the film study, but Watt confirmed the players were going to Harry.
            I don't doubt that players were going to Harry for instruction.

            I do question the level of instruction and it's overall impact. I have no doubts that they were going to him during the offseason and maybe occasional trips during the season for supplementary instruction. Anything beyond that is very difficult to believe, given how much of a workload these guys have to begin with.
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            • Originally posted by NDRock View Post

              Seems like it but is there any nuance to this story? Was Quinn and Kelly aware of this? As I wrote on another thread, QBs have been doing this for awhile. If it was only during the off-season when Quinn couldn’t have contact, then it’s a positive. If it was done under the table because Quinn is an idiot then that’s another story. I probably believe the latter is true. Unfortunately for us.
              There are a lot of threads out there talking about this so I may have missed it but Prister said that he couldn't confirm whether they knew or not.

              It's hard for me to say whether I think this really is something big or something small because of some of the information we don't have.

              On a side note, what I find interesting about this is. Apparently Eichenberg was one of the guys that HH really had it out for. There was a rumor that we might lose him to transfer if HH stuck around. Well, it doesn't seem like both can be true, does it?

              He despises the coach so much that he didn't want to play for him. Yet, searches the coach out once gone for help. That is unless Quinn is just that bad at his job.

              FWIW, Longo used to a be very good S&C coach revered by his players including pivotal players on the 2011 and 2012 squads. We see how that turned out.

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              • Originally posted by Pops Freshenmeyer View Post

                He wasn't really a big name as a position coach prior to his stint with Notre Dame.

                So I think there was more than just Harry Hiestand behind that success.
                He was very highly regarded after his stints with Illinois and The Bears.

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                • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post

                  BK mentioned it was fatigue for Austin. They aren't getting him enough rest during the first half to be fresher in the second half. Styles and Colzie should see the field more in the first half.
                  Then what does that say about his strength and positioning plan or coaching?

                  I thought S&C program was doing better.
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                  • Bottom line is that you should never ever have an OL that ranks damn near last at ND. Bad should be middle of the pack. Every single offensive line we have gone against has had a better OL play, and maybe only Wisconsin recruits it better. Cain Madden was an all american last year. Who the hell cares if he played at Marshall. Even if he was way overrated, what does that mean, worst case scenario starting on a shitty Big Ten team? Well with us he's the worst one on the worst line in the country.

                    Even ND's recruiting back up plans should be a team full of individuals better than every team we've gone against outside of Wisconsin. This is on Quinn. With all that said, it can still be somewhat negated by playing Pyne over Coan.

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                    • Originally posted by irishff1014 View Post

                      Then what does that say about his strength and positioning plan or coaching?

                      I thought S&C program was doing better.
                      Reading between the lines physical and mental exhaustion of getting your butt kicked by a NFL CB all day is not a S&C issue

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                      • The Cain Madden was an All American stuff is something I’m sure Quinn and coaches around the country are learning from this season. OL play is a unit. You in many cases cannot simply take out and plug in a offensive lineman. Texas A&M and OU are getting burned by this too. Not to our extent but their OL issues are in part because expectations of a plug and play OT. The programs can do it, there are success stories too but I always remember there’s a reason a kid is transferring in most cases. Nobody may want to hear that BK, Quinn, Rees etc may have made the same mistake others, others we think are really smart guys, did but it’s true

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                        • Originally posted by irishff1014 View Post

                          Then what does that say about his strength and positioning plan or coaching?

                          I thought S&C program was doing better.
                          Nothing really.

                          Have to factor in that Austin, despite being a senior, has yet to play major snaps since he's been here up until this season. So, this increased workload of being a starter is new to him. He's yet to experience starter reps and the grind of a regular season.

                          Also had to go up against one of the top corners in the country a lot last week. Not an easy assignment.
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                          • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                            The Cain Madden was an All American stuff is something I’m sure Quinn and coaches around the country are learning from this season. OL play is a unit. You in many cases cannot simply take out and plug in a offensive lineman. Texas A&M and OU are getting burned by this too. Not to our extent but their OL issues are in part because expectations of a plug and play OT. The programs can do it, there are success stories too but I always remember there’s a reason a kid is transferring in most cases. Nobody may want to hear that BK, Quinn, Rees etc may have made the same mistake others, others we think are really smart guys, did but it’s true
                            ND OL zone blocks correct? Did Madden’s OL at Marshall use the same concepts?

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                            • Originally posted by BoredIrish View Post

                              On another note... for all the people calling for Chris Watt to come back, wasn't it reported that there was tension between Chip Long and Jeff Quinn? Presumably the fact that Watt went to work for Long would indicate that he was on Chip Long's side... and presumably Tommy and Lance Taylor were on the Quinn side. Not sure how that relationship would work?
                              There was tension between Long and darn near everyone, but I remember reading that Quinn wanted to utilize one blocking scheme where Long insisted on the other. IIRC, I think Quinn wanted to use zone.

                              Not sure Watts followed Long out of loyalty or more for advancement. GA's aren't well known, so they have to grab what's available to get a staff coaching position.

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                              • I thought Long and Hiestand had a good working relationship.
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                                • Originally posted by pumpdog20 View Post
                                  Bottom line is that you should never ever have an OL that ranks damn near last at ND. Bad should be middle of the pack. Every single offensive line we have gone against has had a better OL play, and maybe only Wisconsin recruits it better. Cain Madden was an all american last year. Who the hell cares if he played at Marshall. Even if he was way overrated, what does that mean, worst case scenario starting on a shitty Big Ten team? Well with us he's the worst one on the worst line in the country.

                                  Even ND's recruiting back up plans should be a team full of individuals better than every team we've gone against outside of Wisconsin. This is on Quinn. With all that said, it can still be somewhat negated by playing Pyne over Coan.
                                  ^^^^THIS^^^^ I don't give a RATS A$$ if we lost all 5 guys from the OL to the NFL. We/EVERYONE expected a bit of a step back losing the guys/experience that we did, that goes without saying. However it is 1BAGILLION % on JQuinn that the guys behind him are not anywhere near ready to play and compete. Are these guys getting Zero instruction as 2nd/3rd team guys? It could be said that BK has some responsibility too. Why are we not getting guys some game experience then? I had more to say, but I had to work and forgot. Either way, Quinn has a lot of egg on his face for the play of the OL. These are top end guys out of HS, no excuses what so ever
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                                  • Originally posted by pumpdog20 View Post
                                    Bottom line is that you should never ever have an OL that ranks damn near last at ND. Bad should be middle of the pack. Every single offensive line we have gone against has had a better OL play, and maybe only Wisconsin recruits it better. Cain Madden was an all american last year. Who the hell cares if he played at Marshall. Even if he was way overrated, what does that mean, worst case scenario starting on a shitty Big Ten team? Well with us he's the worst one on the worst line in the country.

                                    Even ND's recruiting back up plans should be a team full of individuals better than every team we've gone against outside of Wisconsin. This is on Quinn. With all that said, it can still be somewhat negated by playing Pyne over Coan.
                                    I have seen several posters write about the failures of Madden being on Quinn. Not sure if that is what you are saying here, but I really don't get that thought process. The guy played three years in another program and was an All-American. Do we really think that Quinn has somehow destroyed everything that he has learned and made him play poorly? Maybe Madden is just in over his head and he was very good for the level he was playing but didn't expect the jump up to big boy football to be as big as it has been.

                                    That being said, it is time for Quinn to go. I just don't think you can blame him for Madden.

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                                    • Originally posted by NDohio View Post

                                      I have seen several posters write about the failures of Madden being on Quinn. Not sure if that is what you are saying here, but I really don't get that thought process. The guy played three years in another program and was an All-American. Do we really think that Quinn has somehow destroyed everything that he has learned and made him play poorly? Maybe Madden is just in over his head and he was very good for the level he was playing but didn't expect the jump up to big boy football to be as big as it has been.

                                      That being said, it is time for Quinn to go. I just don't think you can blame him for Madden.

                                      Explain his play vs Toledo. Comparable level of play to Marshall right?
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                                      • Originally posted by StPaul_Irish View Post


                                        Explain his play vs Toledo. Comparable level of play to Marshall right?
                                        But one of the biggest issues he has had is being pushed around. a fourth year guy of being in college football weight rooms shouldn't be getting pushed around like he is. That's not on Quinn.

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                                        • Originally posted by NDohio View Post

                                          But one of the biggest issues he has had is being pushed around. a fourth year guy of being in college football weight rooms shouldn't be getting pushed around like he is. That's not on Quinn.
                                          Maybe not, but it also could be. It could be/likely is one or some of the following.

                                          - He is either really bad in general, and that is a scouting/evaluating mistake (on Quinn).
                                          - He is being asked to do things he has never done/can't do (Quinn).
                                          - He is being poorly taught/prepared (Quinn).
                                          - He is covering mistakes of the other lineman thus slacking on his responsibilities (Quinn).
                                          - He is the best we have, and we did a bad job of recurting/evaluating (Quinn)
                                          - He is fat/slow/lazy and doesn't work hard (Madden)
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                                          • Originally posted by StPaul_Irish View Post

                                            Maybe not, but it also could be. It could be/likely is one or some of the following.

                                            - He is either really bad in general, and that is a scouting/evaluating mistake (on Quinn).
                                            - He is being asked to do things he has never done/can't do (Quinn).
                                            - He is being poorly taught/prepared (Quinn).
                                            - He is covering mistakes of the other lineman thus slacking on his responsibilities (Quinn).
                                            - He is the best we have, and we did a bad job of recurting/evaluating (Quinn)
                                            - He is fat/slow/lazy and doesn't work hard (Madden)
                                            To add on, it's also possible he developed a technique flaw that isn't being seen or addressed. Or worse, his technique was fine and Quinn changed it, and now it's not fine.
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                                            • Topical.

                                              A shame to because Kyren embodies what Staley is talking about and can’t show it

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                                              • Originally posted by StPaul_Irish View Post


                                                Explain his play vs Toledo. Comparable level of play to Marshall right?
                                                Not a bad point at all. It reminded me that before HH got here, we were all up in arms (and rightly so) about how passive the o-line was, while blaming Kelly and his system. HH put a stop to that. We're back where we started with BK and his o-line.

                                                I wasn't an o-lineman, CB and WR (throwing crack blocks back when they were legal, bye-bye brain cells), but if I saw a defender spending too much time on my QB or RB after the play was dead, I wouldn't just mill about like these guys.

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                                                • Originally posted by NDohio View Post

                                                  I have seen several posters write about the failures of Madden being on Quinn. Not sure if that is what you are saying here, but I really don't get that thought process. The guy played three years in another program and was an All-American. Do we really think that Quinn has somehow destroyed everything that he has learned and made him play poorly? Maybe Madden is just in over his head and he was very good for the level he was playing but didn't expect the jump up to big boy football to be as big as it has been.

                                                  That being said, it is time for Quinn to go. I just don't think you can blame him for Madden.
                                                  In over his head, very good for the level he was playing, big boy football... my dude, outside of Cincinnati the teams we have been playing are at the same level or not that much better than the level he came from where he was an All Amercian, not just All MAC. It's not unreasonable to expect maybe a bit of a downgrade from all american when he came here, but All American to down right bad ain't it. If it's not on Quinn, then it might be injury related. The fact that the entire line sucks, I'll go with Quinn.

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                                                  • Originally posted by Dale View Post


                                                    Topical.

                                                    A shame to because Kyren embodies what Staley is talking about and can’t show it
                                                    I saw this earlier this morning. It's excellent. He's 38 years old and has coached 4 NFL games as an HC. He doesn't look like or sound your neanderthal meathead guy but he's smart and he's saying something that not only makes total sense but is something that so many of his counterparts making millions either don't know or seem to forget.

                                                    The job his defense did last year with the Rams was very impressive.

                                                    Started at QB for Dayton for two years and most of his coaching career has been on defense.
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                                                    • Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post

                                                      I saw this earlier this morning. It's excellent. He's 38 years old and has coached 4 NFL games as an HC. He doesn't look like or sound your neanderthal meathead guy but he's smart and he's saying something that not only makes total sense but is something that so many of his counterparts making millions either don't know or seem to forget.

                                                      The job his defense did last year with the Rams was very impressive.

                                                      Started at QB for Dayton for two years and most of his coaching career has been on defense.
                                                      There's a guy called Chris Vasseur aka Coach Vass who is popular on the podcast circuit and hes been a Staley guy since he was at John Carroll. Thinks he world of him as a coach and a person.
                                                      What did Davonte do?

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                                                      • At the bare minimum the Cain Madden saga is a failed evaluation. Miserable fail. And with so much film to watch, I don't get how they could get it so wrong. Seems very bizarre to me.

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                                                        • Read somewhere that Madden's lateral mobility is not what you expect from a guy playing on a top team. He's good when taking on the guy at the first level, but if he has to get to the second level he struggles to get there if his man isn't in front of him. TBH, I don't know how valid that is because I have spent time watching his play to validate or not. I think the level of play is a step up from the MAC for Madden, but I think this is more on Quinn and building confidence and better communication between the line.

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                                                            • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                                              That's a pretty disingenuous recollection of what was actually said. BK made it seem like these were guys moving on to the NFL after the season and before the draft.

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                                                              • Everything Brian Kelly Said Thursday Ahead of Notre Dame-Virginia Tech (247sports.com)

                                                                "Regarding our former players, yeah, Harry obviously still lives in town and those guys needed somebody because they stayed locally. Harry, obviously with his his availability, trained those guys. We can't do it here. Our offensive line coach, Jeff Quinn's not available to train, nor is any offensive staff or defensive staff training guys that are moving on to the NFL. So, it was really fortunate that with these guys having apartments that are still under lease through the draft, that they were able to come back here. With Harry being in town, it worked out great that they were able to hook up with him and get some work with an experienced offensive line coach that coached in the NFL and here at Notre Dame to get some work. We're all for it. We're happy for them that they were able to get that kind of training, but it's not something that college coaches can do for guys that move on after they've graduated. We're doing recruiting and doing other things. It's just a good situation all around that he's still in town here and he was available to work with those guys."

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                                                                • I don't know if we'll actually see this but Kelly commented today that it's a 5 for 2 situation at OT. Carmody, Alt, Baker, Carroll, and Lugg. Of note, that's the first we're hearing of Carroll being involved or potentially getting on the field. I'd love to see them take Lugg off the field. I don't know if anyone is better but I think it's insane to think he should be playing every snap.

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                                                                  • Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
                                                                    I don't know if we'll actually see this but Kelly commented today that it's a 5 for 2 situation at OT. Carmody, Alt, Baker, Carroll, and Lugg. Of note, that's the first we're hearing of Carroll being involved or potentially getting on the field. I'd love to see them take Lugg off the field. I don't know if anyone is better but I think it's insane to think he should be playing every snap.
                                                                    It would be hard to do worse.

                                                                    It's a situation where you just have to put someone out there and hope they improve, because as of now, there's no hope that Lugg is going to get any better than he is now. He's just not the same player he once was (and that player was just fairly solid).
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                                                                    • Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
                                                                      At the bare minimum the Cain Madden saga is a failed evaluation. Miserable fail. And with so much film to watch, I don't get how they could get it so wrong. Seems very bizarre to me.
                                                                      Well Marshall is not even close to the the talent ND plays.
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                                                                      • Is this 5th year transfer stuff really panning out for us? It worked alright with Ben last year at WR, but that was because the bar was really low for that position group. 5th year transfers can do alright at smaller schools because they're often going from a big school with a higher level of competition to a smaller G5. I'm not sure it works in reverse where a Sun Belt type guy is stepping up to a Top 25 team. It's not like we're getting Heisman hopefuls.

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                                                                        • Originally posted by ulukinatme View Post
                                                                          Is this 5th year transfer stuff really panning out for us? It worked alright with Ben last year at WR, but that was because the bar was really low for that position group. 5th year transfers can do alright at smaller schools because they're often going from a big school with a higher level of competition to a smaller G5. I'm not sure it works in reverse where a Sun Belt type guy is stepping up to a Top 25 team. It's not like we're getting Heisman hopefuls.
                                                                          I don't think it has worked well at the receiver position which is where ND needs transfers for next season.
                                                                          So they might need to work out how to recruit WRs that are good from smaller schools.
                                                                          No doubt Bama will snap up the best of those but ND should be looking at the next best at least.

                                                                          I bet they dump recruiting 5th year olinemen.

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                                                                          • Originally posted by T-Boone View Post

                                                                            I don't think it has worked well at the receiver position which is where ND needs transfers for next season.
                                                                            So they might need to work out how to recruit WRs that are good from smaller schools.
                                                                            No doubt Bama will snap up the best of those but ND should be looking at the next best at least.

                                                                            I bet they dump recruiting 5th year olinemen.
                                                                            They to start getting some straight up dogs.

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                                                                            • Originally posted by Sea Turtle View Post

                                                                              They to start getting some straight up dogs.
                                                                              CJ, Merriwether, Styles and Colzie are all studs. ND has to get young guns on the field before they transfer. It’s a brave new world with the transfer portal, and these young talented players are going to find new homes if they languish on the sidelines watching Austin and Lenzie drop passes and/or fail to get any separation.

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                                                                              • Originally posted by GoIrish41 View Post

                                                                                CJ, Merriwether, Styles and Colzie are all studs. ND has to get young guns on the field before they transfer. It’s a brave new world with the transfer portal, and these young talented players are going to find new homes if they languish on the sidelines watching Austin and Lenzie drop passes and/or fail to get any separation.
                                                                                I agree. The current starters aren't a consistent threat at WR. Normally I wouldn't advocate getting younger guys reps when there's still something to lose, but in this case I'm not sure we're losing anything for the present season by swapping guys or at the very least getting them more reps. We can't go two years without at least one legit playmaker at WR.

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                                                                                • Originally posted by ulukinatme View Post

                                                                                  I agree. The current starters aren't a consistent threat at WR. Normally I wouldn't advocate getting younger guys reps when there's still something to lose, but in this case I'm not sure we're losing anything for the present season by swapping guys or at the very least getting them more reps. We can't go two years without at least one legit playmaker at WR.
                                                                                  And the same goes for Buchner at QB!

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                                                                                  • Originally posted by GoIrish41 View Post

                                                                                    CJ, Merriwether, Styles and Colzie are all studs. ND has to get young guns on the field before they transfer. It’s a brave new world with the transfer portal, and these young talented players are going to find new homes if they languish on the sidelines watching Austin and Lenzie drop passes and/or fail to get any separation.
                                                                                    It's definitely a good start. We need to recruit studs at every position. We need studs at every coaching position.

                                                                                    We are trying to win a championship here.

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                                                                                    • Certainly one of the better performances for the OL of the season as we got the running game going finally. Protection was still pretty bad at times, but mostly when Coan was in. Guess the guys were really happy that Buckner and Kyren had good nights.

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                                                                                      • Originally posted by ulukinatme View Post
                                                                                        Certainly one of the better performances for the OL of the season as we got the running game going finally. Protection was still pretty bad at times, but mostly when Coan was in. Guess the guys were really happy that Buckner and Kyren had good nights.
                                                                                        Not one of the better, it was absolutely the best of the season so far, by far.

                                                                                        Honestly, I felt the coverage was good almost all game, minus the time Alt got worked early on. Most of the pressure Coan got was self-inflicted. That dude just could not sense pressure to save his life.

                                                                                        But getting Correll out and replacing him with Kristofic was a huge boon for the OL.

                                                                                        It wasn't great, but it was passable.
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                                                                                        • The narrative will change if they continue to develop and the offense puts up numbers against the lackluster defenses that Notre Dame will see through the rest of the season. They could be a lot of "after the bye week, Kelly and Co really put up some points!" when the reality is that ND was developing a new bunch of guys against some pretty solid defenses. Most teams don't see that in the front of the season.

                                                                                          I'm back to being optimistic for this OL.

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                                                                                          • I hope you are right and think it is a real possibility if we do not lose anymore OL to injury.

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                                                                                            • Probably seeing Alt and Kristofic earn starting jobs here.

                                                                                              Assuming Fisher and Alt are the starting tackles next season, I wonder what the interior looks like. Correll back at center? Maybe Kristofic at center with Carmody shifting to guard? Will be interesting to see.

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                                                                                              • Anyone watch enough Michigan St to hear an explanation for their OL? They’ve obviously been pretty good and was just looking through stuff and from LT - RG they shuffle in a 2nd group for like a third of the snaps every week. Very interesting.

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                                                                                                • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                                                                                  Anyone watch enough Michigan St to hear an explanation for their OL? They’ve obviously been pretty good and was just looking through stuff and from LT - RG they shuffle in a 2nd group for like a third of the snaps every week. Very interesting.
                                                                                                  What's good for the defensive line is good for the offensive line?

                                                                                                  IMO the line looked much better Saturday night. I think we'll know how big of a step they took after the USC game.

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                                                                                                  • Originally posted by Riddickulous View Post
                                                                                                    Probably seeing Alt and Kristofic earn starting jobs here.

                                                                                                    Assuming Fisher and Alt are the starting tackles next season, I wonder what the interior looks like. Correll back at center? Maybe Kristofic at center with Carmody shifting to guard? Will be interesting to see.
                                                                                                    Maybe? I was thinking about this, as I obviously want Spindler to be a beast and anchor the LG spot. I also want Carmody in there as well, then I remembered that Carmody was seen taking some reps at Center. If JP goes to the league, I thought running this group out there might be fun.

                                                                                                    LT: Fisher
                                                                                                    LG: Spindler
                                                                                                    C: Carmody/Kristofic
                                                                                                    RG: Kristofic/Carmody
                                                                                                    RT: Alt

                                                                                                    However I would like to figure out how to get Baker in there as well, he is improving and is a monster. Only problem for me, he seems like a pure tackle.
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                                                                                                    • Originally posted by StPaul_Irish View Post

                                                                                                      Maybe? I was thinking about this, as I obviously want Spindler to be a beast and anchor the LG spot. I also want Carmody in there as well, then I remembered that Carmody was seen taking some reps at Center. If JP goes to the league, I thought running this group out there might be fun.

                                                                                                      LT: Fisher
                                                                                                      LG: Spindler
                                                                                                      C: Carmody/Kristofic
                                                                                                      RG: Kristofic/Carmody
                                                                                                      RT: Alt

                                                                                                      However I would like to figure out how to get Baker in there as well, he is improving and is a monster. Only problem for me, he seems like a pure tackle.
                                                                                                      Given the circumstances, I've been a little surprised that Spindler hasn't seen any playing time yet. Maybe he's not developing as quickly as we thought?

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