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  • clashmore_mike
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    Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
    Always note Driskell when posting his links. I don't want to be accidentally giving him clicks when I do not intend on reading anything he writes. Only half kidding.
    I thought the same thing as soon as the article loaded. :)

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  • Luckylucci
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    Always note Driskell when posting his links. I don't want to be accidentally giving him clicks when I do not intend on reading anything he writes. Only half kidding.

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  • Edge
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    [DRISKELL] Midweek Musings: Predicting All-American Breakouts for Notre Dame
    Last edited by Whiskeyjack; 05-20-2021, 12:06 PM.

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  • Trait Expectations
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    Just watched the game for the first time. Takeaways:
    • Kiser is sound at everything
    • Liufau is a wild man
    • Botelho is a walking felony
    • Lo Styles is going to play quite a bit for us
    • Kyren and Tyree are an incredible duo
    • DL is nasty
    • LBs are deeeeep
    • secondary played well
    • Coan > Buchner > Pyne
    • We really need Austin to play a full, healthy season. This will allow the other WRs to shine
    • TEs look poised to continue the tradition

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  • Luckylucci
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    Originally posted by Edge View Post

    everybody worried about the DBs....they may end up being a strength of the D. Nice having corners 6’1 and 6’2 205 Cam Hart
    Hamilton at 6’4 gives ND impressive length in DB land
    I don't know if it will be considered a strength this season as LB's and DL should be really good. But, it probably will eventually. To that point, 3 of our top 4 CB's have 3+ years of eligibility with some talented guys coming in behind them with Barnes and Riley. And that's not including Tucker and JoJo who are not yet on campus. Arrow up for sure, exciting times. Let's see them do it on Saturdays now.

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  • Edge
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    Originally posted by Irish du Nord View Post

    That recruitment came out of nowhere but all of a sudden we had a 6'2" DB with 10.6 speed, I was always hoping he'd be a diamond in the rough. He had some plays from the spring practice clips that looked pretty good too.
    everybody worried about the DBs....they may end up being a strength of the D. Nice having corners 6’1 and 6’2 205 Cam Hart
    Hamilton at 6’4 gives ND impressive length in DB land

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  • ThePiombino
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    Originally posted by clashmore_mike View Post

    Damn, I wonder if its just that version of the app. I just downloaded it on my phone and was able to pause and skip forward and backward and I remember pausing and rewinding a few times during the game.
    It's a replay now, I was watching it live. I don't wanna lo5ve in a world that I can't pause live tv anymore!

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  • clashmore_mike
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    Originally posted by ThePiombino View Post

    The app is garbage. I watched it on a CCwGTV and the quality was OK (some buffering here and there which I do NOT experience with other apps), but my biggest issue is why TF can't I pause? Eff that!
    Damn, I wonder if its just that version of the app. I just downloaded it on my phone and was able to pause and skip forward and backward and I remember pausing and rewinding a few times during the game.

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  • ThePiombino
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    Originally posted by clashmore_mike View Post

    Just curious, what kind of device were you using? I watched the game as it aired on a Roku and didn't have any issues with it. I didn't really navigate around too much in it other than finding the game initially.
    The app is garbage. I watched it on a CCwGTV and the quality was OK (some buffering here and there which I do NOT experience with other apps), but my biggest issue is why TF can't I pause? Eff that!

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  • clashmore_mike
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    Originally posted by calvegas04 View Post
    Just watched the game again on the peacock app and that app is garbage.
    Just curious, what kind of device were you using? I watched the game as it aired on a Roku and didn't have any issues with it. I didn't really navigate around too much in it other than finding the game initially.

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  • calvegas04
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    Just watched the game again on the peacock app and that app is garbage.

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  • Irishokie
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    No trial needed. Sign in with an email and that’s it. I think I saw a chance to do 7 day trials of the upgraded plans but aren’t needed to watch the replay

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  • BeauBenken
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    Originally posted by clashmore_mike View Post

    Are you looking to watch the whole game? It's available in the Peacock app for sure and I think on the new ND streaming service too.
    Pause. Really? Well now I found my plans for tomorrow.

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  • clashmore_mike
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    Originally posted by BeauBenken View Post

    I agree with you.

    This kinda stuff really upsets me that I had to miss the Blue-Gold game. Really wish there was a good highlight I could watch at least, but nah.
    Are you looking to watch the whole game? It's available in the Peacock app for sure and I think on the new ND streaming service too.

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  • BeauBenken
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    Originally posted by Dale View Post


    Now I don’t the result of the pass but I can’t help but enjoy seeing Coan step up in the pocket here as well. Book could easily scramble here probably pick up a decent chunk too but Coan you’re gonna, hopefully see that extra second to look downfield
    I agree with you.

    This kinda stuff really upsets me that I had to miss the Blue-Gold game. Really wish there was a good highlight I could watch at least, but nah.

    Edit: Also, Cross looks good rushing the passer here I think.
    Last edited by BeauBenken; 05-05-2021, 08:52 PM.

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  • Dale
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    Now I don’t the result of the pass but I can’t help but enjoy seeing Coan step up in the pocket here as well. Book could easily scramble here probably pick up a decent chunk too but Coan you’re gonna, hopefully see that extra second to look downfield

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  • Luckylucci
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    Originally posted by Irish du Nord View Post

    That recruitment came out of nowhere but all of a sudden we had a 6'2" DB with 10.6 speed, I was always hoping he'd be a diamond in the rough. He had some plays from the spring practice clips that looked pretty good too.
    They have him officially listed at 6'1 189 but that's still dang good for a CB with that type of speed. I'm sure he still has a ways to go but he's trending up. And, it's just nice to see when it comes to guys that most thought (and rightfully so) were all projection. That projection is starting to become a reality.

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  • Irish du Nord
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    Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
    I'm buying all of that Henderson hype. I might be early but I wanna get on this one before he's an NFL CB.
    That recruitment came out of nowhere but all of a sudden we had a 6'2" DB with 10.6 speed, I was always hoping he'd be a diamond in the rough. He had some plays from the spring practice clips that looked pretty good too.

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  • Trait Expectations
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    Originally posted by Dale View Post


    If you wanted any glimmer of Spring accomplishment, I’d say a OT, WR, and 2 DBs getting these awards is what you were hoping for

    Baker, Lewis, Styles and Henderson
    I'm happy to see a true freshman amongst that group. That sets us up well for the fall.

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  • Luckylucci
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    I'm buying all of that Henderson hype. I might be early but I wanna get on this one before he's an NFL CB.

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  • Dale
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    If you wanted any glimmer of Spring accomplishment, I’d say a OT, WR, and 2 DBs getting these awards is what you were hoping for

    Baker, Lewis, Styles and Henderson

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  • NorthDakota
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    Originally posted by IrishLion View Post
    The WR's are almost certain to be better, or at least to be more consistent options than the feast-or-famine approach we got from Skowronek and McKinley last season, simply based on Coan being willing to throw to Mayer down the seam, and based on the fact that the run game isn't going to be hitting early on (or maybe at all) like last year. It's a 'Volume + Opportunity' thing.

    Hitting Mayer on outs, curls, and drags was great for Book and presented easy yards to take.

    But running Mayer down the seam to either grab a huge chunk play, or else open up something underneath for a speedster like Keys or an athlete like Davis, is going to create some opportunities that we haven't seen recently.

    Hopefully Rees is ready to step it up a notch as a play caller.
    Yeah I am pretty confident that more of the field will be available to play with. Nothing against Book, but he had some pretty severe limitations on what he was generally willing to do.

    should be plenty of opportunities for the young guys to get in and hopefully make some plays. Really really important to have this team prepared for the following year or two.

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  • IrishLion
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    The WR's are almost certain to be better, or at least to be more consistent options than the feast-or-famine approach we got from Skowronek and McKinley last season, simply based on Coan being willing to throw to Mayer down the seam, and based on the fact that the run game isn't going to be hitting early on (or maybe at all) like last year. It's a 'Volume + Opportunity' thing.

    Hitting Mayer on outs, curls, and drags was great for Book and presented easy yards to take.

    But running Mayer down the seam to either grab a huge chunk play, or else open up something underneath for a speedster like Keys or an athlete like Davis, is going to create some opportunities that we haven't seen recently.

    Hopefully Rees is ready to step it up a notch as a play caller.

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  • Trait Expectations
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    Originally posted by InKellyWeTrust View Post
    If the O-line is rebuilding, WRs are suspect, and Coan and Pyne look...average...why not role with the more dynamic freshman in what appears to be a transition year? What's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow this year? I'd be surprised if we were a serious playoff contender. Maybe the defense will be good enough to compensate. But we aren't beating Bama, Clemson, or Ohio St with Coan or Pyne throwing to Keyes and Davis. Buchner to Austin, JJ, and Styles sounds much better. We may be longing for Ian Book to come back by the middle of the season. Idk, at some point we have to find a QB and WR combo to take us over the top. Hate to say it but in a weird way I'm hoping Coan and Pyne flame out early so we can bring on the future more quickly.
    It appears we have a really good defense, it also appears the WRs aren't suspect. The OL is the big question. We have enough offensive fire power to put up a lot of points. Lenzy, Keys, Austin, Davis, Styles, possibly JJ, Mayer, Williams, Tyree and possibly 2nd TE. There are a lot of mismatches in the various lineups that can be made.

    I think Coan will probably throw a few etra INTs but I also think he sees the field and has far better anticipation than Book. Book was great at improvising but I think Coan gives us an entirely different QB.

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  • Irish#1
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    Didn't watch the game and am caught up on everyone's opinions. Who was the biggest surprise and who was the biggest disappointment (Baker?)?

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  • T-Boone
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    Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post

    I hope Coach is going to be making sure at the very least he gets meaningful reps. We aren't winning a Natty this year, but if he isn't ready, its not fair to the seniors to roll with a kid who isn't helping the team win.

    But we do gotta make sure he's ready for 2022 because...yeah...I'm really sick of having a great team that just needs an elite quarterback. We need him to be ready.
    I'd be happy to burn his red shirt this year in favour of plenty of experience. No way is he staying at ND for 5 years. He will bounce to the league or portal one way or the other.

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  • Luckylucci
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    We might not be winning a natty but I think this team is even better than I was expecting.

    I think the DB’s are in a much better place than what I was expecting. And the rest of the defense is loaded. I think there is enough good on the OL that it’ll get figured out by the end of Fall Camp. And, the rest of the offense is loaded. If I’m Kelly and I look at an offense that has Austin, Keys, Davis, Mayer, Kyren, and Tyree as it’s top options. All of that can win a lot of games. And, if you’re Kelly, I think you have to take that and go with Coan.

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  • NorthDakota
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    Originally posted by T-Boone View Post


    Its got merit but if we concede the season why wouldnt a guy like Kyle Hamilton just go "oh well I am transfer to a team that plans to win this season".
    Also the big 3 - Bama, Clemson, Ohio State have brand new QBs as well. What if the stars align and they are each not very good (unlikely I know) and it turns out several schools we feel we could beat made the play offs such as Georgia, Oklahoma, Penn State.
    Yeah you gotta play to win always when you are ND's caliber...unless you start 1-3 and the season is tanked lol

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  • T-Boone
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    Originally posted by InKellyWeTrust View Post
    If the O-line is rebuilding, WRs are suspect, and Coan and Pyne look...average...why not role with the more dynamic freshman in what appears to be a transition year? What's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow this year? I'd be surprised if we were a serious playoff contender. Maybe the defense will be good enough to compensate. But we aren't beating Bama, Clemson, or Ohio St with Coan or Pyne throwing to Keyes and Davis. Buchner to Austin, JJ, and Styles sounds much better. We may be longing for Ian Book to come back by the middle of the season. Idk, at some point we have to find a QB and WR combo to take us over the top. Hate to say it but in a weird way I'm hoping Coan and Pyne flame out early so we can bring on the future more quickly.

    Its got merit but if we concede the season why wouldnt a guy like Kyle Hamilton just go "oh well I am transfer to a team that plans to win this season".
    Also the big 3 - Bama, Clemson, Ohio State have brand new QBs as well. What if the stars align and they are each not very good (unlikely I know) and it turns out several schools we feel we could beat made the play offs such as Georgia, Oklahoma, Penn State.

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  • NorthDakota
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    Originally posted by InKellyWeTrust View Post

    I understand that risk. I think if a guy's got it he's got it. Aaron Rodgers was always going to be great and Alex Smith was always going to be average. Imo trial by fire vs sit and learn was just coincidental.

    Put the best players on the field. And maybe Keyes and Davis are the best options at receiver currently. But dang it, I'm ready to see someone, anyone emerge from that young group of receivers.

    I don't disagree with your premise and I'd love a big bowl win for Kelly. I've been looking at 2022 and 2023 for a couple years now. And I think the roster is shaping up to have a serious chance at a NC if we actually have a dude at QB.
    I hope Coach is going to be making sure at the very least he gets meaningful reps. We aren't winning a Natty this year, but if he isn't ready, its not fair to the seniors to roll with a kid who isn't helping the team win.

    But we do gotta make sure he's ready for 2022 because...yeah...I'm really sick of having a great team that just needs an elite quarterback. We need him to be ready.

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  • InKellyWeTrust
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    Originally posted by Dale View Post

    The implied truth here that is not a guarantee is the younger higher rated will benefit from what you’re describing. What if Buchner gets pounded into the ground every week and gets mentally beaten down? What if Styles becomes frustrated because Buchner struggles? What if the Junior class says I’m out and leaves us a hole of upperclassmen in 2022 because they don’t like how this year was handled?

    Personally I think a non-Playoff team could be good for the future. It ain’t so bad to leave the year with a Bowl win. Who wouldn’t love to see a Cotton Bowl win to end the year for example? That’s a worthy pot of gold.
    I understand that risk. I think if a guy's got it he's got it. Aaron Rodgers was always going to be great and Alex Smith was always going to be average. Imo trial by fire vs sit and learn was just coincidental.

    Put the best players on the field. And maybe Keyes and Davis are the best options at receiver currently. But dang it, I'm ready to see someone, anyone emerge from that young group of receivers.

    I don't disagree with your premise and I'd love a big bowl win for Kelly. I've been looking at 2022 and 2023 for a couple years now. And I think the roster is shaping up to have a serious chance at a NC if we actually have a dude at QB.

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  • Dale
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    Originally posted by InKellyWeTrust View Post
    If the O-line is rebuilding, WRs are suspect, and Coan and Pyne look...average...why not role with the more dynamic freshman in what appears to be a transition year? What's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow this year? I'd be surprised if we were a serious playoff contender. Maybe the defense will be good enough to compensate. But we aren't beating Bama, Clemson, or Ohio St with Coan or Pyne throwing to Keyes and Davis. Buchner to Austin, JJ, and Styles sounds much better. We may be longing for Ian Book to come back by the middle of the season. Idk, at some point we have to find a QB and WR combo to take us over the top. Hate to say it but in a weird way I'm hoping Coan and Pyne flame out early so we can bring on the future more quickly.
    The implied truth here that is not a guarantee is the younger higher rated will benefit from what you’re describing. What if Buchner gets pounded into the ground every week and gets mentally beaten down? What if Styles becomes frustrated because Buchner struggles? What if the Junior class says I’m out and leaves us a hole of upperclassmen in 2022 because they don’t like how this year was handled?

    Personally I think a non-Playoff team could be good for the future. It ain’t so bad to leave the year with a Bowl win. Who wouldn’t love to see a Cotton Bowl win to end the year for example? That’s a worthy pot of gold.

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  • InKellyWeTrust
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    If the O-line is rebuilding, WRs are suspect, and Coan and Pyne look...average...why not role with the more dynamic freshman in what appears to be a transition year? What's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow this year? I'd be surprised if we were a serious playoff contender. Maybe the defense will be good enough to compensate. But we aren't beating Bama, Clemson, or Ohio St with Coan or Pyne throwing to Keyes and Davis. Buchner to Austin, JJ, and Styles sounds much better. We may be longing for Ian Book to come back by the middle of the season. Idk, at some point we have to find a QB and WR combo to take us over the top. Hate to say it but in a weird way I'm hoping Coan and Pyne flame out early so we can bring on the future more quickly.

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  • Dale
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    Lewis is definitely CB1

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  • longliveautrydenson
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    Originally posted by fightingirish26 View Post

    ? Thought Lewis has been praised all spring. He's gotta be at worst no. 2 behind Hart.
    I haven’t heard much about Clarence this spring good or bad, but regardless this wasn’t intended as a dig. It was more of a comment on the ascendance of Hart/Henderson, as well as Bracy’s return to form.

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  • fightingirish26
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    Originally posted by longliveautrydenson View Post

    3. At the beginning of spring, I thought our opening day starters were going to be Clarence Lewis and a true freshman like Chance Tucker or Philip Riley. Now it looks like Lewis might be our 4th best corner and our young CBs will have time to develop. That’s an incredible turnaround from where things stood a few weeks ago.
    ? Thought Lewis has been praised all spring. He's gotta be at worst no. 2 behind Hart.

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  • irishandy
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    Originally posted by longliveautrydenson View Post
    B&G Observations (Defense)

    DL

    Someone needs to spray some Sark repellant around the Gug because Texas is going to come sniffing around Nana if we’re not careful. He’s got physical traits you can’t teach, we just need to keep him in the fold long enough for some PT to open up.
    Wasn't Nana out with an injury last year? Regardless Nana has been patience and waited for his time. If Nana wanted to transfer out I think he would go home to Texas; plus they have one of our defense coaches from last year. Spray some of that Sark repellant around Nana....

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  • NorthDakota
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    Originally posted by NDCrusader View Post

    Great question.

    If you and I were the Ade twins and SPP didn't allow us to grad early... would we hang out with our boys, jack around in the city, chase skirts, sneak a case of ____ into prom and spike the punch and train as hard as we could in non-ND, sub standard programs... then join the Irish in June

    OR

    Would we "transfer" to the local public school for a week and graduate at Christmas (the only thing Tate Martell ever did right) and get on campus in January, work out with Balis 2x day, eat like Gods and fill our black books with a 100 examples of Michiana's finest offerings?

    I've already voted.
    Lolol this is lit.

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  • BobbyMac
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    Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post

    I struggle with it. I get the whole "EE if possible" thing. But if that's not an option, should you still not play sports?
    Great question.

    If you and I were the Ade twins and SPP didn't allow us to grad early... would we hang out with our boys, jack around in the city, chase skirts, sneak a case of ____ into prom and spike the punch and train as hard as we could in non-ND, sub standard programs... then join the Irish in June

    OR

    Would we "transfer" to the local public school for a week and graduate at Christmas (the only thing Tate Martell ever did right) and get on campus in January, work out with Balis 2x day, eat like Gods and fill our black books with a 100 examples of Michiana's finest offerings?

    I've already voted.

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  • longliveautrydenson
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    B&G Observations (Defense)

    DL

    1. It wasn’t that long ago that Brandon Tiassum, Micah Dew-Treadway, and Jacob Matuska were in the 2-deep at DL. With all due respect to Micah and Jacob, the talent upgrade on our second and third lines is remarkable. We’re going to be able to roll out hockey lines of fresh, competent D-Linemen against our opponents late in games this year.

    2. We need to line up Kurt “the Koolaid Man” Hinish at nose tackle a few times at the start of each game and just let him whale on the opposing center.

    3. I don’t know who Jordan Botelho reminds me of more: Bobby Boucher or Jon Favreau’s character in the Replacements. Either way, I think there’s a non-zero percent chance his season ends with a flying kick to Sam Howell’s solar plexus a full 8 seconds after the whistle.

    4. What if I told you the D lineman with the highest ceiling on the team didn’t even play Saturday? That might be hyperbole, but it also might not be. Jacob Lacey is going to be a stud in his own right if he can get healthy.

    5. Someone needs to spray some Sark repellant around the Gug because Texas is going to come sniffing around Nana if we’re not careful. He’s got physical traits you can’t teach, we just need to keep him in the fold long enough for some PT to open up.

    LBs

    1. I was skeptical of BK’s decision to name Shayne Simon a captain for the spring game. I thought it was just a clever way to keep him from transferring before fall. Color me skeptical no more. He looks rocked up and played with a ton of confidence.

    2. Marist Liafau reminds me of the “Me Want Honeycomb” guy. As soon as the ball is snapped, all you can see is a ball of hair smashing into the offensive line. He’s about as twitchy as it gets and will be fun to watch this year.

    3. Jack Kiser is opening up a new delivery service. For every textbook open field tackle that he makes, he’ll send a hot pot of crow to Notre Dame fans that thought he wasn’t a “take.” I got mine in the mail last night. Tastes good.

    CBs

    1. ND fans need to collectively wipe our memories MIB style of Tariq Bracy’s last 6 games. He caught covid. It hurt his performance. End of story. The spring game showed he’s still capable of being a quality CB.

    2. Cam Hart and Ramon Henderson look long, strong, and fast. I haven’t been this excited about a CB duo since Shane Walton and Vontez Duff were dragging a tennis coach to a 10 win season.

    3. At the beginning of spring, I thought our opening day starters were going to be Clarence Lewis and a true freshman like Chance Tucker or Philip Riley. Now it looks like Lewis might be our 4th best corner and our young CBs will have time to develop. That’s an incredible turnaround from where things stood a few weeks ago.

    Safeties

    1. DJ Brown provides nice depth, but he’s not a starting safety on a championship contender. We need someone else to step up (looking at you HG) to take the back end of our defense to the next level.

    2. I don’t want to presume to know more than the coaches, but it seems like if you put KJ Wallace in the game, he’s going to make plays. I hope he gets more opportunities this year.

    3. Justin Walters keeps making plays. I don’t know if his size will prevent him from becoming a big time contributor down the line, but it doesn’t seem to have limited him thus far.


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  • stpeteirish
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    Watched replay. Baker stood out, not in a good way. I thought Fisher looked better than Baker. Still can't say for sure where we put Patterson in the fall.

    Who plays guard is not clear. They used Carroll, Kristoflec, Spindler (LG) and Dirksen there Saturday. Gibbons played center all the way. So still looking like it could be the two Frosh together on the left side.

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  • NorthDakota
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    Originally posted by NDCrusader View Post

    Glad you wrote this. For me, this goes back to him choosing to play basketball rather than EEing. He got down to 270 during hoops season and then got hurt on top of it. When he did show up in South Bend he was back up to 292 and ballooned to 315 with training table, weights but he was still coming fresh off that knee injury. Balis got him back down into the low 290 again and started to build him back up to the 310 mark he's at right now. A lot of yo-yo body building because he wasn't there 6 months earlier uninjured.

    A lot of people give me a hard time about my hatred of Senior basketball seasons for commits. This is 100% why I hate it. It set him back, pure and simple. Once you commit, your HS athletic career should end when you walk off the football field for the last time. If you go to a public HS or any HS that allows early graduation, you should be in South Bend in Jan, not squeezing out 6 more months of childhood endeavors.










    I struggle with it. I get the whole "EE if possible" thing. But if that's not an option, should you still not play sports?

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  • irishandy
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    Originally posted by longliveautrydenson View Post
    B&G Observations (Offense)

    WRs

    Don’t love the disappearing act from the Sophomore WRs. Need to see some Delvelopment (TM) although I fear transfers may be more likely.
    Sadly, I agree. Who do you think is a transfer candidate?

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  • BobbyMac
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    Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
    I'm not worried about Baker long term but I will say I'm slightly disappointed he's not further along. It'd be completely reasonable if he needs to take the McGlinchey route and start as a Junior and play for 3 years after that. And, I think we'll all be happy if that is the ultimate result and I don't think this means that can't still happen. But, I am slightly disappointed because I thought he was further along than McGlinchey (as a HS prospect and collegiate Freshman) and he'd be ready by now. Who knows, maybe he will be by the end of Fall Camp.
    Glad you wrote this. For me, this goes back to him choosing to play basketball rather than EEing. He got down to 270 during hoops season and then got hurt on top of it. When he did show up in South Bend he was back up to 292 and ballooned to 315 with training table, weights but he was still coming fresh off that knee injury. Balis got him back down into the low 290 again and started to build him back up to the 310 mark he's at right now. A lot of yo-yo body building because he wasn't there 6 months earlier uninjured.

    A lot of people give me a hard time about my hatred of Senior basketball seasons for commits. This is 100% why I hate it. It set him back, pure and simple. Once you commit, your HS athletic career should end when you walk off the football field for the last time. If you go to a public HS or any HS that allows early graduation, you should be in South Bend in Jan, not squeezing out 6 more months of childhood endeavors.











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  • BobbyMac
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    Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
    I really feel like Baker will be fine in the fall as long as they commit to him and give him enough reps. Spindler and Fisher will be fine in the long run. Correll will be fine. Patterson will be great. So worst case scenario if one of your tackles can't hold up you kick out Patterson to tackle and play Lugg next to him the the experience. I'm not as pessimistic as I was on the OL, although they will certainly give up some big negative plays because of youth and inexperience.
    I'm with you thinking Tosh will be fine but I can't say my sky high confidence in him hasn't been altered for this year.

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  • Luckylucci
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    I'm not worried about Baker long term but I will say I'm slightly disappointed he's not further along. It'd be completely reasonable if he needs to take the McGlinchey route and start as a Junior and play for 3 years after that. And, I think we'll all be happy if that is the ultimate result and I don't think this means that can't still happen. But, I am slightly disappointed because I thought he was further along than McGlinchey (as a HS prospect and collegiate Freshman) and he'd be ready by now. Who knows, maybe he will be by the end of Fall Camp.

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  • IrishLax
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    I really feel like Baker will be fine in the fall as long as they commit to him and give him enough reps. Spindler and Fisher will be fine in the long run. Correll will be fine. Patterson will be great. So worst case scenario if one of your tackles can't hold up you kick out Patterson to tackle and play Lugg next to him the the experience. I'm not as pessimistic as I was on the OL, although they will certainly give up some big negative plays because of youth and inexperience.

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  • Dale
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    Originally posted by rtrn2glory View Post

    I'm just so confused by this. Dude has all the athletic skills necessary and even had a basketball background. We gotta get him figured out and developed. Way too much potential to be left untapped
    He’s only a RS FR. Blake Fisher has everyone’s expectations calibrated wrong. If Baker loses the job but wins one next year you’re likely talking about a 2 year starter that will be contemplating the draft versus returning for a 3rd round, exactly what you’d expect.

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  • Trait Expectations
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    Originally posted by rtrn2glory View Post
    Something that crossed my mind too. Anyone think we could possibly lose C Bo to the portal? Not sure where he's at in his degree but I'm wondering if he'll be one to leave for somewhere to get more carries and get to the top of the totem pole
    Anything is possible but he doesn't seem like the type to transfer out early. He could certainly be a starter at middle tier p5 program but maybe one more, graduate and go start w/degree in hand? Probably depends on how the freshman look when they get here. As long as he doesn't get passed on the depth chart, I'd expect him to stick around.

    But again, this new immediate eligibility rule could change things quickly for some guys.

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  • IrishLax
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    1. Coan should clearly be the starter.
    2. Buchner has all the potential we hoped he had. It’s hard not to watch that game and think about what he can do with this roster in ‘22.
    3. I think the OL could be OK once they get Patterson back. I’m more optimistic about them than I was previously... they will make some soul crushing mistakes because of inexperience but should be “good enough” against most teams.

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