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**NDCrusader** · 09-12-2018, 11:17 PM

OVing this weekend. Freebie from ISD (below) says he's an Irish fan. Looks good in that Carney shirt too.

Interesting developments today to say the least. A lot to read into this...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KohlsKicking?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ko hlsKicking</a> No.7 ranked kicker Harrison Leonard in the Class of 2019 stands as the top available uncommitted kicking prospect.<br><br>➡️<a href="https://t.co/a2zPWvgiEI">https://t.co/a2zPWvgiEI</a> <a href="https://t.co/qpxJz0QXIp">pic.twitter.com/qpxJz0QXIp</a></p>— Kohl's Kicking Camps (@KohlsKicking) <a href="https://twitter.com/KohlsKicking/status/1039174158276390913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ND Football Recruiting | 2019 Avon Old Farms (Conn.) kicker Harrison Leonard (<a href="https://twitter.com/hleonard858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hleonard858</a>) previews his official visit to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Notre Dame</a>. <br><br>�I�ve always loved Notre Dame."<a href="https://t.co/OUiLTyCCS2">https://t.co/OUiLTyCCS2</a></p>— Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1039938564904169473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**JD Irish** · 09-12-2018, 11:21 PM

Fairly obvious what this means with regard to the current status of the kicker position. The question will be whether we offer a scholarship.

**PANDFAN** · 09-13-2018, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by JD Irish View Post

Fairly obvious what this means with regard to the current status of the kicker position. The question will be whether we offer a scholarship.

he basically said even being a preferred walkon would be great....so i doubt we add another scholly k

**OhioIrish31** · 09-13-2018, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by PANDFAN View Post

he basically said even being a preferred walkon would be great....so i doubt we add another scholly k

We make punters and walk-ons captains...anything is possible.

**PANDFAN** · 09-13-2018, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by OhioIrish31 View Post

We make punters and walk-ons captains...anything is possible.

just saying, tyler newsome had the most votes of anyone to be a captain from his peers....so doesn't hold weight

**StPaul_Irish** · 09-13-2018, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by OhioIrish31 View Post

We make punters and walk-ons captains...anything is possible.

Its logic like this that says "how can he be a captain, he isn't our best player"

Best captain I ever saw, was a 4th line plugger who couldn't stop stepping on his own you know what. Great Captain/Leader. Leaders lead from the front, not always on the stat sheet.

**stlnd01** · 09-13-2018, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by JD Irish View Post

Fairly obvious what this means with regard to the current status of the kicker position. The question will be whether we offer a scholarship.

Forgive my being dense, but it means... they don�t think Doerer can replace Yoon on FG duty?

**NDMIA** · 09-13-2018, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by stlnd01 View Post

Forgive my being dense, but it means... they don�t think Doerer can replace Yoon on FG duty?

I definitely think it speaks to the coaching staff�s confidence in Doerer, or lack thereof. I also think it�s a matter of they have an opportunity to get the 7th best kicker on campus and maybe snag him with only a preferred walk on spot. Bama has done this in the past where they�ll have some highly rated kickers/punters who accept a preferred walk on spot in order to compete for a scholarship. I think it�s a great use of an OV. I hope it�s not a scholarship situation because then they�ll be taking a very limited spot on a kicker in this class and they have other needs.

**PANDFAN** · 09-13-2018, 11:10 AM

Leonard is being recruited by a few schools on the East Coast, but it’s clear his focus is on this weekend’s official visit to Notre Dame and seeing where he stands with the staff.

The Irish might not be able to offer a scholarship with tight numbers and already having a specialist in the class, but a preferred walk-on offer could be a game-changer for Leonard.

“It would be huge for me.”
https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/7181/...rrison-leonard

**NDCrusader** · 09-13-2018, 04:23 PM

How many PWO's get official visits?

**NDMIA** · 09-13-2018, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by NDCrusader View Post

How many PWO's get official visits?

ND has 56 official visits for the season to use. They’ve done 26 so far (including Pakola & Leonard coming this weekend). If you include 7 more OV’s for the commits that haven’t used theirs yet that’s 33 official visits. Basically from now until February 6, 2019, ND can use 23 more official visits. I think if they want to bring in a kicker, show him the red carpet, and try to get him on board as a PWO then they should go for it. They realistically only have 4-5 spots at the absolute maximum and I don’t think they are going to get 23 more visitors this season. It would be surprising to say the least.

**zelezo vlk** · 09-13-2018, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by NDMIA View Post

ND has 56 official visits for the season to use. They�ve done 26 so far (including Pakola & Leonard coming this weekend). If you include 7 more OV�s for the commits that haven�t used theirs yet that�s 33 official visits. Basically from now until February 6, 2019, ND can use 23 more official visits. I think if they want to bring in a kicker, show him the red carpet, and try to get him on board as a PWO then they should go for it. They realistically only have 4-5 spots at the absolute maximum and I don�t think they are going to get 23 more visitors this season. It would be surprising to say the least.

And ISD heard that they might only take 2 more guys. If so then go ahead with a kicker you're trying to sway

**NDCrusader** · 09-16-2018, 05:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Had an amazing Official Visit this weekend in South Bend! Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoachBrianKe lly</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianPolian?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BrianPolian</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/aarynkearney?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@aarynkearney</a> for hosting me this weekend! <a href="https://t.co/8RRvRGC5t2">pic.twitter.com/8RRvRGC5t2</a></p>— Harrison Leonard (@hleonard858) <a href="https://twitter.com/hleonard858/status/1041340878785273858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**KizerWilhelm** · 10-16-2018, 02:23 PM

Brian Polian visiting Thursday and might offer a PWO. Apparently, he'd likely accept. https://247sports.com/college/notre-...019-123415157/

**Irish#1** · 10-16-2018, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by NDCrusader View Post

How many PWO's get official visits?

63

**Sherm Sticky** · 10-16-2018, 11:01 PM

Doerer is horrible. Kind of wish ND could take the scholarship back from Doerer. Hopefully next year the light comes on for Doerer and I eat my words...

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**Irish YJ** · 10-16-2018, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Sherm Sticky View Post

Doerer is horrible. Kind of wish ND could take the scholarship back from Doerer. Hopefully next year the light comes on for Doerer and I eat my words...

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what the heck happened to Loy's comments on Doerer, and his 90% through the end zone rate...

**dad4aa** · 10-17-2018, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Sherm Sticky View Post

Doerer is horrible. Kind of wish ND could take the scholarship back from Doerer. Hopefully next year the light comes on for Doerer and I eat my words...

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Originally posted by Irish YJ View Post

what the heck happened to Loy's comments on Doerer, and his 90% through the end zone rate...

I watched him kick FGs at practice last week and it was not good. He missed three in a row from inside the 30 and just did not look like he had good form.

**Huntr** · 10-18-2018, 06:06 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2019 Avon Old Farms (Conn.) kicker Harrison Leonard (<a href="https://twitter.com/hleonard858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hleonard858</a>) has accepted a preferred walk-on opportunity at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Notre Dame</a>. <a href="https://t.co/wth7gSd4Nt">https://t.co/wth7gSd4Nt</a></p>— Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1053058133600489472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2018</a></blockquote>

Posted in PWO thread, too.

**Huntr** · 10-18-2018, 06:09 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">God, Country, Notre Dame! <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoachBrianKe lly</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianPolian?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BrianPolian</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDFootball</a> <a href="https://t.co/rM0wJ0o2zO">pic.twitter.com/rM0wJ0o2zO</a></p>— Harrison Leonard (@hleonard858) <a href="https://twitter.com/hleonard858/status/1053057296929054725?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2018</a></blockquote>

**NDCrusader** · 10-18-2018, 06:15 PM

Is he an early enrollee?

**Irish YJ** · 10-18-2018, 06:16 PM

Welcome to ND!

**FightingIrishLover7** · 10-18-2018, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by NDCrusader View Post

Is he an early enrollee?

I never thought I'd be praying for a walk-on to EE........

**Irish#1** · 10-18-2018, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by FightingIrishLover7 View Post

I never thought I'd be praying for a walk-on to EE........

lol

**Irish YJ** · 10-18-2018, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by FightingIrishLover7 View Post

I never thought I'd be praying for a walk-on to EE........

I'm still in the camp of..... why can't we have open tryouts for a KO specialist? There has to be a soccer player or someone on campus that can put it through the end zone. Is it not allowed to put someone, already enrolled at ND, on the roster?

**FightingIrishLover7** · 10-18-2018, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Irish YJ View Post

I'm still in the camp of..... why can't we have open tryouts for a KO specialist? There has to be a soccer player or someone on campus that can put it through the end zone. Is it not allowed to put someone, already enrolled at ND, on the roster?

I'm in the camp of, I want someone as good as Yoon, because...damn, it's nice.

**Meacon Irish** · 10-18-2018, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by FightingIrishLover7 View Post

I'm in the camp of, I want someone as good as Yoon, because...damn, it's nice.

I text my buddy last week saying that we're likely to lose a lot of guys after this season, but the one that may be felt the most often next season is the loss of Yoon. It's been nice the last couple years to not stress out constantly during field goal attempts.

**Pops Freshenmeyer** · 10-18-2018, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Irish YJ View Post

I'm still in the camp of..... why can't we have open tryouts for a KO specialist? There has to be a soccer player or someone on campus that can put it through the end zone. Is it not allowed to put someone, already enrolled at ND, on the roster?

I was not a fan of Holtz's constant parade of soccer players.

**Irish YJ** · 10-18-2018, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Pops Freshenmeyer View Post

I was not a fan of Holtz's constant parade of soccer players.

I don't want a constant parade, just one guy for one year, that can come in and kick it through the endzone. KOs is a place we should always have someone (PWO, or soccer player, or existing student WO) that can kick it through the endzone. I'm not talking about FGs or Punting, just someone who can blast the ball consistently, then go back to the sideline and finish his beer and cigarette.

**dad4aa** · 10-18-2018, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Irish YJ View Post

I'm still in the camp of..... why can't we have open tryouts for a KO specialist? There has to be a soccer player or someone on campus that can put it through the end zone. Is it not allowed to put someone, already enrolled at ND, on the roster?

My understanding is that, if they are a soccer scholarship player, than that will count toward the 85 football limit.

**Luckylucci** · 10-18-2018, 07:33 PM

Nice! Welcome to ND Harrison.

**Henges24** · 10-18-2018, 07:46 PM

IN before Tom comes in and says "Michigan stopped recruiting him"

Welcome to ND!

**Irish YJ** · 10-18-2018, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by dad4aa View Post

My understanding is that, if they are a soccer scholarship player, than that will count toward the 85 football limit.

are we at our 85 limit?

but the big Q, is can we add to the roster mid season as long as they are already enrolled at ND?

**NDMIA** · 10-18-2018, 08:27 PM

Absolutely massive commitment. Need to build some depth in the kicking game. I�m a firm believer in the Alabama route where they have 4-5 walk on kickers/punters who were top 10 dudes and the two best are scholarship guys. If you can ever get a top 10 ranked kicker in the country without a scholly then that�s a huge win. Hats off to Polian for Leonard and Rutherford

**NDCrusader** · 10-18-2018, 08:29 PM

5-10/185

That moment when Koon realizes the new K dwarfs this cycle's RB.

**Sherm Sticky** · 10-18-2018, 09:39 PM

Welcome to Notre Dame Harrison!

**irish4ever** · 10-18-2018, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Irish YJ View Post

I don't want a constant parade, just one guy for one year, that can come in and kick it through the endzone. KOs is a place we should always have someone (PWO, or soccer player, or existing student WO) that can kick it through the endzone. I'm not talking about FGs or Punting, just someone who can blast the ball consistently, then go back to the sideline and finish his beer and cigarette.

I thought that is what Doerer was recruited to do ... blast it thru the end zone?! That's been a major disappointment!!!

**Junkhead** · 10-18-2018, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Meacon Irish View Post

I text my buddy last week saying that we're likely to lose a lot of guys after this season, but the one that may be felt the most often next season is the loss of Yoon. It's been nice the last couple years to not stress out constantly during field goal attempts.

Yes, Yoon is my favorite ND player ever (not really), but he has been under-appreciated (at least online), and damn I can't believe he's almost done. Time flies.

**Irish YJ** · 10-18-2018, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by NDCrusader View Post

5-10/185

That moment when Koon realizes the new K dwarfs this cycle's RB.

I mean, can he even see over the holder?

**ab2cmiller** · 10-18-2018, 10:18 PM

Evidently a pretty good baseball player as well. Maybe he can walk on in two sports.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2018 RHP <a href="https://twitter.com/hleonard858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hleonard858</a> of <a href="https://twitter.com/AOFBaseball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AOFBaseball</a> FB was 86-88 mph with a slider at 76-77 mph, big time sleeper, arm is electric and fresh. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ctbase?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ctbase</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PBR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PBR</a></p>— PBR New England (@PBRNewEngland) <a href="https://twitter.com/PBRNewEngland/status/988594912353452033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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**~~**Veritate Duce Progredi**~~** · 10-19-2018, 09:45 AM

Wow, the staff must really be at it's wit end with Doerer. Is it a case of the yips? Or does he have some hidden injury? Doerer was a highly rated kicker wasn't he?

**ab2cmiller** · 10-19-2018, 09:50 AM

Can a kick off kicker really have the yips when their only job is to kick the football as hard as they possibly can?

**irishff1014** · 10-19-2018, 10:11 AM

From what I have read we are getting a good player. Hopefully he can really turn the corner on special teams.

**NDCrusader** · 10-19-2018, 10:43 AM

Should we call this Gold Shirting?

PWO the first year, play right away, gets scholarship starting year 2.

Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall and listened to what was said, not said, how it was said and watched for the winks and air quotes during the presentation.

**NDMIA** · 10-19-2018, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Veritate Duce Progredi View Post

Wow, the staff must really be at it's wit end with Doerer. Is it a case of the yips? Or does he have some hidden injury? Doerer was a highly rated kicker wasn't he?

I think the staff is doing the appropriate job of adding depth to a position group. I think too many people look at the 3 scholarships or 4 for special teams and think that's what you need for special teams and that's it. I hope ND looks at it like they need 2-3 deep at each position group and only have 3-4 scholarships to work with. Basically get really highly ranked players to take PWO's to ND and when there's a big time talent then you give them a scholarship. Next year it would be nice to see ND pick up a PWO punter who is potentially ranked highly so they could have Doerer-Leonard at Kicker and Bramblett-Freshman at Punter.

Kicker/Punter
GS Tyler Newsome - #4 Kohl's, #10 Sailer
SR Justin Yoon - #1 Kohl's, NR Sailer
RS JR Jeff Riney - #34 Kohl's, NR Sailer
SO Jonathan Doerer - #11 Kohl's, #3 Sailer
FR Jake Rittman - NR Kohl's, NR Sailer
HS SR Harrison Leonard - #7 Kohl's, NR Sailer
HS SR Jay Bramblett - #4 Kohl's, #1 Sailer

Long Snapper
RS SO John Shannon - NR Kohl's, #2 Rubio
RS SO Matt Bushland - NR Kohl's, NR Rubio
FR Michael Vinson - #33 Kohl's, #13 Rubio

**EddytoNow** · 10-19-2018, 12:45 PM

PWO now, but if he earns a spot kicking off or kicking field goals and extra points then reward him with one of the available scholarships that always seem to pop up due to a career-ending injury or transfer. If we can give Van Gorder's son a scholarship to be the holder on field goals, we can reward a deserving kicker with a scholarship when one frees up.

**wizards8507** · 10-19-2018, 01:14 PM

Avon Old Farms tuition isn't too much less than Notre Dame's.

**Huntr** · 10-20-2018, 05:52 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taft muffs a punt, AOF recovers deep in Taft end. Can�t convert the TD, so Notre Dame commit Harrison Leonard drills this chip shot for a 31-21 AOF lead after 3 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cthsfb?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cthsfb</a> <a href="https://t.co/qSENP4QjZs">pic.twitter.com/qSENP4QjZs</a></p>— Sean Patrick Bowley (@SPBowley) <a href="https://twitter.com/SPBowley/status/1053751976868093952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 20, 2018</a></blockquote>

**NDCrusader** · 12-19-2018, 10:44 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now lacing up the golden spikes for the Fight Club is <a href="https://twitter.com/hleonard858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HLeonard858</a>. <br><br>A kicker from New England with a strong leg and all of the traits we look for joins the Irish. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish </a> ☘️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FightClub19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Fig htClub19</a> <a href="https://t.co/oFSOATwYs0">pic.twitter.com/oFSOATwYs0</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1075414756348039173?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A dual-sport athlete joining the Irish from a renowned boarding school in Connecticut.<br><br>Harrison Leonard will be an immediate help following the departure of all-time scoring leader, Justin Yoon. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FightClub19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Fig htClub19</a> <a href="https://t.co/NNC1VboeGx">pic.twitter.com/NNC1VboeGx</a></p>— Brian Polian (@BrianPolian) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianPolian/status/1075415018852769792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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