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  • Originally posted by Rack Em View Post
    I was half-way being facetious. I agree with your points, but it's not like Kelly can sell recruits on winning football games. Mora can, albeit many of UCLA's games were fugly.
    Truth, ours were fugly too. We just came out on the wrong end. Our two records were a few bounces away from being reversed. Just gotta hope this kid is smart enough to see that. Plus, you have to figure UCLA is not going to be as good without Hundley next year.

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    • Originally posted by GoldenDome
      Mora is sleazy bro. He showed up on the St. John Bosco campus without even checking in with admin just to talk to a recruit. He constantly berates the USC campus to try to sway recruits only to have his own daughter go there. She is currently attending USC right now. He also has an annual purge of players they at he deems are busts, like Kylie Fitts, some due to injury and some due to just being a bust. Their are other stories that I have heard that may or may not be true as well that adds to his sleaziness.
      Such as?

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      • Originally posted by ThePiombino View Post
        Truth, ours were fugly too. We just came out on the wrong end. Our two records were a few bounces away from being reversed. Just gotta hope this kid is smart enough to see that. Plus, you have to figure UCLA is not going to be as good without Hundley next year.
        What makes you think we'll be better with Golson? lol

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        • Originally posted by ThePiombino View Post
          Such as?
          I rather not say because they may or may not be true.

          But let's use Kylie Fitts as an example of his sleaze. Kylie Fitts was asked by Lane Kiffin to not enroll early because of an apparent hand and knee injury and would not have been able to participate in spring ball and they needed the numbers to practice. So he goes to UCLA, oh by the way somehow got free UCLA basketball tickets.

          But here is where it gets sleezy. Fitts attends UCLA with the notion that he will close to his family (very religious) and he can play football. Mora knowingly puts Fitts out there with his injuries in spring and during his first season of football. Fitts gets hurt and is not the same guy. Since Fitts is not as capable as he once was and not effective, Mora convinces him to transfer, thus his annual purge, bam Fitts is gone, used and abused. He convinced him to go to UCLA and convinced him to leave as well. He also played him despite his injuries. Class act.

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          • Originally posted by koonja View Post
            Did he have an in home with UCLA already after his visit to ND? TweeteTweeted out a pic with him in a UCLA uniform and updated his bio back to UCLA stuff.

            The ND visit barely had time to set in...this sucks!!! What are our chances now?!
            You can't spell dumb without "UM" or suck without "SC"
            "Losers always whine about their best... Winners go home with the Prom Queen."

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            • Originally posted by GoldenDome
              Zach Whitley
              Tyler Foreman
              And rumors have it Preist Willis will transfer to Nebraska to free up scholarships.
              And the thing is too, while UCLA has a good GSR and is a good school, none of the Mora crop are really being set up in the classroom either. Fitts wasn't able to transfer into ND because his coursework was crap.

              Anyways, it's not really relevant. But Mora wins about 90% of recruiting battles with ND and it's because he's a phenomenal salesman who also puts in tremendous legwork.

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              • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                And the thing is too, while UCLA has a good GSR and is a good school, none of the Mora crop are really being set up in the classroom either. Fitts wasn't able to transfer into ND because his coursework was crap.

                Anyways, it's not really relevant. But Mora wins about 90% of recruiting battles with ND and it's because he's a phenomenal salesman who also puts in tremendous legwork.
                He has consistently whipped up on ND in recruiting battles and done it with hustle and a sense of urgency. It helps that A. Jones is already on the West Coast but how freaking smart was Mora to schedule that in-home immediately after the banquet visit. He was able to quickly squash any good feelings that might have been built from the visit, counterpoint anything ND said and got his word in edge wise right away which is now what Alize has most fresh to think about. This guy Mora just wants it more then ND.

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                • We do have Fertitta in his ear though, plus a final in home to make our pitch.

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                  • Something to follow here is that UCLA might be put in a tough situation. They have Chris Clark (TE) coming for an OV and some think that UCLA will end up being the team to beat. If they view Alize as flinching, they may end up allowing Chris Clark to commit and ultimately pushing Jones to ND. They are pitching the two playing together but I don't see Alize wanting to do that especially as tight as this race is already. There is some speculation with this but also some substance. Something to follow.

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                    • Originally posted by PerthDomer View Post
                      We do have Fertitta in his ear though, plus a final in home to make our pitch.

                      This is true + going to school with Fertitta he would have easy trips back home. It is great to know ND still has an in home left after Mora stole our momentum. C'mon Alize!!!
                      You can't spell dumb without "UM" or suck without "SC"
                      "Losers always whine about their best... Winners go home with the Prom Queen."

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                      • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                        Anyways, it's not really relevant. But Mora wins about 90% of recruiting battles with ND and it's because he's a phenomenal salesman who also puts in tremendous legwork.
                        It's an uphill battle for ND to gain a commitment from any heavily-recruited kid from CA. If USC were on top, we'd be losing just as many West Coast kids to them. Mora deserves credit for taking advantage of USC's weakness, but a lot of his recruiting "victories" were very unlikely to leave the state anyway.

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                        • Originally posted by Whiskeyjack View Post
                          It's an uphill battle for ND to gain a commitment from any heavily-recruited kid from CA. If USC were on top, we'd be losing just as many West Coast kids to them. Mora deserves credit for taking advantage of USC's weakness, but a lot of his recruiting "victories" were very unlikely to leave the state anyway.

                          I agree. Mora is whipping up on U$C more than ND. We seem to only get 1 out of 4/5 to leave the state of Cali in the end. Always a bridesmaid, rarely the bride.
                          You can't spell dumb without "UM" or suck without "SC"
                          "Losers always whine about their best... Winners go home with the Prom Queen."

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                          • Originally posted by irishknight35 View Post
                            He has consistently whipped up on ND in recruiting battles and done it with hustle and a sense of urgency. It helps that A. Jones is already on the West Coast but how freaking smart was Mora to schedule that in-home immediately after the banquet visit. He was able to quickly squash any good feelings that might have been built from the visit, counterpoint anything ND said and got his word in edge wise right away which is now what Alize has most fresh to think about. This guy Mora just wants it more then ND.
                            If the shoe was on the other foot I doubt there'd be all this praise for Kelly.

                            UCLA and Mora just used their in-home on Jones is because we've had their commit on our campus twice since the season began. Pretty good hustle by ND.

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                            • Originally posted by Whiskeyjack View Post
                              It's an uphill battle for ND to gain a commitment from any heavily-recruited kid from CA. If USC were on top, we'd be losing just as many West Coast kids to them. Mora deserves credit for taking advantage of USC's weakness, but a lot of his recruiting "victories" were very unlikely to leave the state anyway.
                              Correct, it's almost all CA or "extended" out of state like Arizona and Nevada. Here's the grand sum of losses to Mora from out of state.

                              In 2012, Mora pulled Fuller (NJ). We got in late here.

                              In 2013, Mora pulled Massington (TX), Hollins (TX). We got in late with Massington and Hollins was a race to the finish.

                              In 2014, Mora pulled Kenny Young (LA).

                              But probably a dozen prospects in Mora's last 3 classes are guys ND heavily pursued out there and we finished second. It's staggering how much his effort in CA has dried up that well of talent relative to when Weis was on the job against his predecessors. I'm not all that mad... because Cali talent is almost always flaky and overrated... but it's annoying.

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                              • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                Correct, it's almost all CA or "extended" out of state like Arizona and Nevada. Here's the grand sum of losses to Mora from out of state.

                                In 2012, Mora pulled Fuller (NJ). We got in late here.

                                In 2013, Mora pulled Massington (TX), Hollins (TX). We got in late with Massington and Hollins was a race to the finish.

                                In 2014, Mora pulled Kenny Young (LA).

                                But probably a dozen prospects in Mora's last 3 classes are guys ND heavily pursued out there and we finished second. It's staggering how much his effort in CA has dried up that well of talent relative to when Weis was on the job against his predecessors. I'm not all that mad... because Cali talent is almost always flaky and overrated... but it's annoying.
                                Didn't Devin Fuller not come to ND because Gunner Kiel commited and Fuller only would play QB?

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                                • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                  Correct, it's almost all CA or "extended" out of state like Arizona and Nevada. Here's the grand sum of losses to Mora from out of state.

                                  In 2012, Mora pulled Fuller (NJ). We got in late here.

                                  In 2013, Mora pulled Massington (TX), Hollins (TX). We got in late with Massington and Hollins was a race to the finish.

                                  In 2014, Mora pulled Kenny Young (LA).

                                  But probably a dozen prospects in Mora's last 3 classes are guys ND heavily pursued out there and we finished second. It's staggering how much his effort in CA has dried up that well of talent relative to when Weis was on the job against his predecessors. I'm not all that mad... because Cali talent is almost always flaky and overrated... but it's annoying.
                                  It's nowhere near 12 players where we finished second. That would be absurd. A quick check shows 18 players that both schools offered who signed with UCLA.

                                  Ishmael Adams- Cal finished second. He did take an OV to Notre Dame.

                                  Devin Fuller- Looked at him briefly before Kiel committed. He never visited.

                                  Jordan Payton- Took an OV to ND but left Cal and UW classes before signing with UCLA.

                                  Marcus Rios- Academic casualty. Might have picked ND.

                                  Priest Willis- Never seriously considered ND.

                                  Tahaan Goodman- Never seriously considered ND.

                                  Craig Lee- Made his top 3 but was never serious about ND.

                                  Nate Starks- Lost him when he was kicked out of Gorman.

                                  Eddie Vanderdoes- Don't need to say anything.

                                  Deon Hollins- We got a late OV, he wouldn't let Kelly do an in-home.

                                  Eldridge Massington- Long-time USC commit, never seriously considered ND.

                                  Austin Roberts- Indiana kid who we never got in with, didn't finish 2nd.

                                  Matt Dickerson- Mora flipped him.

                                  Zach Whitley-Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                  Kenny Young- Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                  Kylie Fitts- Longtime USC commit, we were in his top group at the end.

                                  Isaac Savainnaiea- We got an OV but finished behind a few others.

                                  Thomas Duarte-Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                  So the list is basically: Rios, Starks, Vanderdoes, Hollins, Dickerson, and Fitts. Mora did a good job on the latter three. No doubt he's making our lives difficult but it's really not that bad, particularly if we steal Alize Jones.

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                                  • Originally posted by Rocket89 View Post
                                    It's nowhere near 12 players where we finished second. That would be absurd. A quick check shows 18 players that both schools offered who signed with UCLA.

                                    Ishmael Adams- Cal finished second. He did take an OV to Notre Dame.

                                    Devin Fuller- Looked at him briefly before Kiel committed. He never visited.

                                    Jordan Payton- Took an OV to ND but left Cal and UW classes before signing with UCLA.

                                    Marcus Rios- Academic casualty. Might have picked ND.

                                    Priest Willis- Never seriously considered ND.

                                    Tahaan Goodman- Never seriously considered ND.

                                    Craig Lee- Made his top 3 but was never serious about ND.

                                    Nate Starks- Lost him when he was kicked out of Gorman.

                                    Eddie Vanderdoes- Don't need to say anything.

                                    Deon Hollins- We got a late OV, he wouldn't let Kelly do an in-home.

                                    Eldridge Massington- Long-time USC commit, never seriously considered ND.

                                    Austin Roberts- Indiana kid who we never got in with, didn't finish 2nd.

                                    Matt Dickerson- Mora flipped him.

                                    Zach Whitley-Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                    Kenny Young- Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                    Kylie Fitts- Longtime USC commit, we were in his top group at the end.

                                    Isaac Savainnaiea- We got an OV but finished behind a few others.

                                    Thomas Duarte-Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                    So the list is basically: Rios, Starks, Vanderdoes, Hollins, Dickerson, and Fitts. Mora did a good job on the latter three. No doubt he's making our lives difficult but it's really not that bad, particularly if we steal Alize Jones.
                                    Dickerson's flip is the one in recent memory that sounded legit to me. Don't remember the details, though.

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                                    • Fitts, Rios and Starks all wanted ND at some point in their careers as well. ND just couldn't take them.
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                                      • Originally posted by Rocket89 View Post
                                        It's nowhere near 12 players where we finished second. That would be absurd. A quick check shows 18 players that both schools offered who signed with UCLA.

                                        Ishmael Adams- Cal finished second. He did take an OV to Notre Dame.

                                        Devin Fuller- Looked at him briefly before Kiel committed. He never visited.

                                        Jordan Payton- Took an OV to ND but left Cal and UW classes before signing with UCLA.

                                        Marcus Rios- Academic casualty. Might have picked ND.

                                        Priest Willis- Never seriously considered ND.

                                        Tahaan Goodman- Never seriously considered ND.

                                        Craig Lee- Made his top 3 but was never serious about ND.

                                        Nate Starks- Lost him when he was kicked out of Gorman.

                                        Eddie Vanderdoes- Don't need to say anything.

                                        Deon Hollins- We got a late OV, he wouldn't let Kelly do an in-home.

                                        Eldridge Massington- Long-time USC commit, never seriously considered ND.

                                        Austin Roberts- Indiana kid who we never got in with, didn't finish 2nd.

                                        Matt Dickerson- Mora flipped him.

                                        Zach Whitley-Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                        Kenny Young- Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                        Kylie Fitts- Longtime USC commit, we were in his top group at the end.

                                        Isaac Savainnaiea- We got an OV but finished behind a few others.

                                        Thomas Duarte-Never seriously considered Notre Dame.

                                        So the list is basically: Rios, Starks, Vanderdoes, Hollins, Dickerson, and Fitts. Mora did a good job on the latter three. No doubt he's making our lives difficult but it's really not that bad, particularly if we steal Alize Jones.
                                        Man, ever since I ripped Hopkins over the Barnett thing you really make a painstaking effort to nitpick my posts. But when you're right you're right.

                                        So "probably a dozen" I guess was a bit off shooting from the hip. Savainnaeia we finished 3rdish behind A&M. So a half-dozenish guys... I guess it's the few that stick out (Dickerson, Vanderdoes) that make it seem like more.

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                                        • Originally posted by IrishLax
                                          What on field success? No conference championships, averaging about 4 losses per season under Mora. Best bowl win is the Sun Bowl, which is something Kelly accomplished in his first year.
                                          To be fair, that's probably Kelly's best bowl win. Beating Miami > Beating Rutgers.

                                          And I was in El Paso for that game. I have no idea what happened during the game, but ND definitely won at tailgating.

                                          I respect his his hustle. I tremendously respect it, if not outright envy it. But let's call a spade a spade... he's not selling substance.
                                          Since all the race-baiters have been banned, I'll pick up the slack. That's racist.

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                                          • Dickerson's mother was/is ill, no? It was more of a stay close to mom rather than he was flipped.
                                            "Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's *** by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather take his word for it?"

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                                            • Originally posted by BeauBenken View Post
                                              Dickerson's mother was/is ill, no? It was more of a stay close to mom rather than he was flipped.
                                              Thought it was his dad (could be wrong), and it sounded fairly serious. Unless that was a bogus story, I never got the sense it had anything to do with Mora or getting talked into flipping.

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                                              • Originally posted by ResLife Hero View Post
                                                Thought it was his dad (could be wrong), and it sounded fairly serious. Unless that was a bogus story, I never got the sense it had anything to do with Mora or getting talked into flipping.
                                                Just looked it back up. You're correct. His father developed prostate cancer less than a month before the flip and his mother is also disabled. He was placed in a very hard situation. I'll be rooting for the kid.

                                                “Calling [Denbrook] was a really, really hard thing to do, but it was the right thing,” Dickerson said, via MaxPreps’ Mitch Stephens. “I looked so forward to playing for the Irish. But I’m doing what’s best for my family and I.”
                                                "Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's *** by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather take his word for it?"

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                                                • Originally posted by Rack Em View Post
                                                  To be fair, that's probably Kelly's best bowl win. Beating Miami > Beating Rutgers.

                                                  And I was in El Paso for that game. I have no idea what happened during the game, but ND definitely won at tailgating.



                                                  Since all the race-baiters have been banned, I'll pick up the slack. That's racist.
                                                  Well played!

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                                                  • Originally posted by Whiskeyjack View Post
                                                    It's an uphill battle for ND to gain a commitment from any heavily-recruited kid from CA. If USC were on top, we'd be losing just as many West Coast kids to them. Mora deserves credit for taking advantage of USC's weakness, but a lot of his recruiting "victories" were very unlikely to leave the state anyway.
                                                    Seems like we have had a lot of luck recently with Texas, no? From my mile high POV, it appears that Cooks has been really successful there. Also, just taking a quick look at ESPN and 247 databases, Texas has considerably more 4-stars than CA.

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                                                    • I keep waiting to see that either he decommitted or is now a ND commit. Of all the different recruits on campus i would love to know what his reaction is and will he be making a final choice.

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                                                      • Originally posted by tussin View Post
                                                        Seems like we have had a lot of luck recently with Texas, no? From my mile high POV, it appears that Cooks has been really successful there. Also, just taking a quick look at ESPN and 247 databases, Texas has considerably more 4-stars than CA.
                                                        Absolutely. I'm at the point now where a 3 from TX excites me more than a 4 from CA. Far less likely to decommit or bust.

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                                                        • Per Sampson he's hearing that the UCLA staff was prepared to take a commitment from Chris Clark is Alize hadn't reaffirmed his recruitment on Sunday night. Apparently Chris is lobbying the Bruin staff to take him.

                                                          Bad news is it sounds like Alize gave them reason to believe he's staying with UCLA. Good news is I continue to think this Clark situation could benefit us prior to NSD.

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                                                          • Not sure if this has been reported but basically ND is confident that he will end up in SB. But UCLA is also confident last night that gave him a reason to let them know Jones is coming. Basically Chris Clark is ready to commit to UCLA and ND isn't as confident as they were over the weekend

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                                                            • Originally posted by GBdomer View Post
                                                              Not sure if this has been reported but basically ND is confident that he will end up in SB. But UCLA is also confident last night that gave him a reason to let them know Jones is coming. Basically Chris Clark is ready to commit to UCLA and ND isn't as confident as they were over the weekend
                                                              Not sure how to reconcile those two statements, since:
                                                              • ND expected to wrap up his recruitment last weekend;
                                                              • Jones tweeted out a photo of himself in UCLA gear after Mora's in-home; and
                                                              • Mora is allegedly unwilling to accept a verbal from Clark.


                                                              Jones' recruitment is trending hard in a negative direction.

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                                                              • When is Clark's visit supposed to be?

                                                                Looks like 1/17 according to 247
                                                                Last edited by koonja; 12-15-2014, 05:16 PM.

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                                                                • Sorry Whiskey I confused by myself trying to type that. GBDomer not making sense? No way, basically ND is still confident with Jones but not as confident. Read Luckylucci statement, he makes sense

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                                                                  • Who the hell grows up a fan of UCLA football? I have more tradition in my pants than they have in their whole football history.

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                                                                    • Surprised this is trending back to UCLA, Credit to UCLA staff for getting in his home right after the trip to get him refocused on UCLA. Mora has been a pain in our ass and looks as though it will continue

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                                                                      • Originally posted by koonja View Post
                                                                        Who the hell grows up a fan of UCLA football? I have more tradition in my pants than they have in their whole football history.
                                                                        Cade and Troy say what up playa?

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                                                                        • If I had to guess, I'd imagine they gave him an ultimatum. Either stick with your pledge or we're taking this other guy. And he reaffirmed his commitment. Does that mean he ultimately sticks? Still not sure.

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                                                                          • Originally posted by NCND View Post
                                                                            Cade and Troy say what up playa?
                                                                            I don't even know who you're referencing which goes to show how much they've done nothing

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                                                                            • Assume he is referencing Troy Aikman and Cade McNown. I may have went with Ogden.

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                                                                              • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                                If I had to guess, I'd imagine they gave him an ultimatum. Either stick with your pledge or we're taking this other guy. And he reaffirmed his commitment. Does that mean he ultimately sticks? Still not sure.

                                                                                This is what I think happened and (to me) it doesn't really change my opinion of the situation. We've seen how hard selling or ultimatums have worked against coaches recently and not saying it will here but I don't view this as Alize suddenly realizing that he won't consider ND. Would I have liked him to tell Mora to F off then call Kelly an announce his commitment for ND, of course. However, I don't think thats very likely considering he does have a long term relationship with UCLA's staff.

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                                                                                • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                                  If I had to guess, I'd imagine they gave him an ultimatum. Either stick with your pledge or we're taking this other guy. And he reaffirmed his commitment. Does that mean he ultimately sticks? Still not sure.

                                                                                  would love it if he said "sure if you must know, I'm all UCLA Mr Mora"...just to get him off his "ultimatum"...and then, when it mattered, signing the LOI, he signs with us.

                                                                                  ps when is the dead period for contacting recruits?

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                                                                                  • Originally posted by ND NYC View Post
                                                                                    would love it if he said "sure if you must know, I'm all UCLA Mr Mora"...just to get him off his "ultimatum"...and then, when it mattered, signing the LOI, he signs with us.

                                                                                    ps when is the dead period for contacting recruits?
                                                                                    Started today, one reason why this may have more importance than in most circumstances.

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                                                                                    • Originally posted by Te'o4Heisman View Post
                                                                                      Assume he is referencing Troy Aikman and Cade McNown. I may have went with Ogden.
                                                                                      Aikman was long gone before this kid starting paying attention to CFB. I imagine McNown was, too. Not sure how one grows up a UCLA football fan but maybe a relative turned him on to the Bruins.
                                                                                      "I gotta keep rockin' while I still can. I gotta two pack habit & a motel tan." - Steve Earle

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                                                                                      • Originally posted by koonja View Post
                                                                                        Who the hell grows up a fan of UCLA football? I have more tradition in my pants than they have in their whole football history.
                                                                                        Most kids these days don't give a shit about tradition. All they see is warm weather, Los Angeles, and 9-10 win seasons the last 3 years.

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                                                                                        • Originally posted by Grahambo View Post
                                                                                          Most kids these days don't give a shit about tradition. All they see is warm weather, Los Angeles, and 9-10 win seasons the last 3 years.

                                                                                          Nobody goes to UCLA for football tradition. Can't forget the So Cal women either...
                                                                                          You can't spell dumb without "UM" or suck without "SC"
                                                                                          "Losers always whine about their best... Winners go home with the Prom Queen."

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                                                                                          • Originally posted by Grahambo View Post
                                                                                            Most kids these days don't give a shit about tradition. All they see is warm weather, Los Angeles, and 9-10 win seasons the last 3 years.
                                                                                            Kids believing in the weather is a joke when it comes to recruiting. What happens when a kid is good enough to go pro and gets drafted by Denver, New England, or Green Bay are they going to tell those teams to trade them because of the weather. If a kid can't handle weather they are a pansy.

                                                                                            That being said hopefully Aliz'e man's up and chooses the Irish, F Mora!!

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                                                                                            • Originally posted by irishandy View Post
                                                                                              Kids believing in the weather is a joke when it comes to recruiting. What happens when a kid is good enough to go pro and gets drafted by Denver, New England, or Green Bay are they going to tell those teams to trade them because of the weather. If a kid can't handle weather they are a pansy.

                                                                                              That being said hopefully Aliz'e man's up and chooses the Irish, F Mora!!
                                                                                              easy to play in the climates you listed above when you are collecting a paycheck in the National Football League. Doesn't hurt that your cold weather sample size have Peyton, Rodgers, and Tim F'in Brady slinging it to you.

                                                                                              I get the point your trying to make, but no.

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                                                                                              • Originally posted by irishandy View Post
                                                                                                Kids believing in the weather is a joke when it comes to recruiting. What happens when a kid is good enough to go pro and gets drafted by Denver, New England, or Green Bay are they going to tell those teams to trade them because of the weather. If a kid can't handle weather they are a pansy.

                                                                                                That being said hopefully Aliz'e man's up and chooses the Irish, F Mora!!
                                                                                                Is this for real?

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                                                                                                • Originally posted by GreenSox04 View Post
                                                                                                  easy to play in the climates you listed above when you are collecting a paycheck in the National Football League. Doesn't hurt that your cold weather sample size have Peyton, Rodgers, and Tim F'in Brady slinging it to you.

                                                                                                  I get the point your trying to make, but no.
                                                                                                  Let's hope if Aliz'e chooses the Irish he has a real QB (Malik) slinging it to him.

                                                                                                  Yes, the cities I mentioned above have stud QB's but there is also Buffalo, Cleveland, and Minnesota.

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                                                                                                  • Maybe he's telling Mora what he wants to hear just to keep him off his back?

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                                                                                                    • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
                                                                                                      Maybe he's telling Mora what he wants to hear just to keep him off his back?
                                                                                                      Or maybe he's not coming to ND.

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