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  • '08 CA DE Datone Jones (UCLA Verbal)

    Datone Jones - DE (6'4"/235lbs)
    Compton HS (Compton, CA)

    Combine
    Forty: 4.8
    Bench Reps:
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    Rankings & Accolades
    Ranked #136 on the ESPN 150 as of 3/31/2007
    Scout 300
    Rivals 250

    Statistics
    2006- 60 Tackles, 4 Sacks
    2007- 110 Tkls, 36 TFL, 13 Scks, 1 INT

    Schools of Interest
    Arizona
    Arizona State
    Ole Miss
    Nebraska
    Notre Dame
    Oregon
    UCLA (Soft Verbal)
    USC
    Fresno State
    Last edited by GoshenGipper; 12-04-2007, 06:48 AM.

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    • #3
      Rivals listed Datone Jones as an ND offer yesterday. At the time, I thought it was just an error because Jones who had verbally committed to UCLA on March 10, was still listed as a UCLA “Solid Verbal” by rivals. Solid Verbal does not really meet the “If they are looking, we are looking” philosophy of CW, because the inference seemed to be that ND would not offer recruits who had verbally committed, and were not at all looking elsewhere. If Datone Jones was still in that second category, it would indicate a change in recruiting philosophy that every recruit regardless of status was a potential Offer. In any case Rivals did later change the status of Jones to a “Soft Verbal” which would indicate that he along with Josh Jenkins, and Gerrell Robinson all now fall into “If they are looking, we are looking” category. Scout has now also added Datone Jones to their ND offer list. I have not seen anything to indicate what specific action Jones has taken to indicate that his commitment to UCLA is no longer solid, but it appears something must have happened to precipitate an ND offer. However, until we see what actually occurred, Jones will not be added to the Irish Envy Official Offer list.

      I could not find the reference but wasn’t Datone the recruit who was the subject of a lot of bad blood between USC and UCLA before he actually committed to UCLA.

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      • #4
        The "if you are looking, then we are looking" policy pertains to our verbals, not theirs.

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        • #5
          charlie and the gang are not playing around with recruiting urban liar better look out!

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          • #6
            i like the no holds barred throw offers out nonstop...get some

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shamrock View Post
              The "if you are looking, then we are looking" policy pertains to our verbals, not theirs.
              I didn't know that, then who is the "you", and who is the "we" in that case. Do you mean to say that when CW said that, he meant that if a recruit who has verbally committed to ND starts looking after the commit, then ND is looking also, to do what? Rescind their scholarship? I don't understand, could you please explain further.

              If you are correct, then I guess I completely misunderstood what CW meant, I thought it meant that ND (we) would look at any recruit (you) who indicates that they are still open to offers, even if they have given a verbal to another school.

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              • #8
                I think what CW was saying was that we're not going to be nice anymore, and we will play the way all the other guys are.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by goldenlid View Post
                  I think what CW was saying was that we're not going to be nice anymore, and we will play the way all the other guys are.
                  That is my understanding too which is why I don't see how the "looking" statement applies to our verbals.

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                  • #10
                    hypothectial you would be: Cave, Randolp, Golic, Goodman, or Cwynar. The us would be ND. If one of these guys goes out looking, then ND will recruit somebody for their place.

                    Is it kind of hypocritical, yes, but thats how it is.

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                    • #11
                      I don't think that he would rescind the offer, but lets say that ND is taking 5 LBs. We have 5 commits, A, B, C, D, and E. Now, lets say that C goes on a visit to another school, then Charlie would probably offer another LB, or get back in contact with a prior offer. Now lets say prospect F go aheads and commits. The way that I understood the presser, was that our 5 LBs would then A, B, D, E, and now F, and prospect C would be SOL.

                      Thats the way that I interpreted the signing day presser.

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                      • #12
                        You're right Shamrock. I just re-read the transcript and that specific "looking" quote was in reference to ND recruits. Here is the paragraph:

                        COACH WEIS: I just listen to you guys. You say you know where all these kids are going (laughter). With the Internet, I mean, you know where everyone is. Sometimes unfortunately that's how you find it out. The Internet is just like everyone else. If some kid is going to go visit to a school that's committed to us, that school wants, for some reason, to get that out, okay? Regardless of how that ends up getting on the street, whether it's the kid saying it, however it ends up happening, once it's out there, then it's an issue. There's nothing to hide in this thing. There's too many people in today's age with the Internet, too many people involved in this where they know things that are going on.

                        Hey, it isn't like we don't know about them. A lot of times people think we're stupid, we don't know about them. It's just how you're going to deal with them. I think you have to be ready to make a stand in recruiting. The stand has to be, you know, like a couple coaches I know actually have, if they want to go visit somewhere, you got if you're looking, we're looking. That's the way it's got to be.


                        The comment that I was confusing it with is here:

                        The other thing is, for all those other people who are silent verbals, silent commits, to me they're fair game, just the way my guys are fair game, because that's the way the game is obviously played.

                        It is clear from ND's continued recruitement of Jenkins & Gerrell Robinson that CW is also including "Soft Verbals" as well, and he probably meant them anyway when he made this statement. What will be interesting to see is if Datone Jones commit to UCLA does turn out to be still "Solid", and an Official Offer is confirmed, that would mean that the staff is really playing extreme hard ball this year.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by irishunclebill View Post
                          I didn't know that, then who is the "you", and who is the "we" in that case. Do you mean to say that when CW said that, he meant that if a recruit who has verbally committed to ND starts looking after the commit, then ND is looking also, to do what? Rescind their scholarship? I don't understand, could you please explain further.

                          If you are correct, then I guess I completely misunderstood what CW meant, I thought it meant that ND (we) would look at any recruit (you) who indicates that they are still open to offers, even if they have given a verbal to another school.
                          I think the quote you give below clears this up, but I take it the point was that if a recruit looks elsewhere, then he has to be open to the possibility that his spot might be given away. This isn't the same as pulling an offer, though ...
                          Stoney is a dead man.

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                          • #14
                            I think our future policy can best be summed up ironically, through the Brian Smith situation. When Smith told Iowa he wanted to take a look at ND they basically told him if you go you might as well take it because we are going to replace you. I think thats the new deal. If say, Goodman called and said he was going to visit UM, i honestly think that Weis would pull the schollie. There's no more bullshittin around with these kids, once your in your in. Don't commit until your 100% sure you want to be here. Mack Brown has the same rule at UT. Thats why no one leaves Texas, he straight up tells them that if they start looking around after they commit, that they no longer have a scholarship there. I think if kids are going to go back on their on their word Weis has to have the stones to follow through and pull schollies, that way the defections won't happen anymore.

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                            • #15
                              Although I have yet to find any info that verifies that Datone Jones withdrew his committment to UCLA, (Rivals lists him as a "Soft Verbal") he has been on the Rivals offer list for almost a month now, and Scout/Irish Eyes has now confirmed that he has an ND offer. So Datone Jones becomes the 63rd member of the 2008 Irish Envy Official Offer List. For the time being he will be listed as a "Soft Verbal" on our Offer List as well.

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                              • #16
                                He should be visiting South Bend in the near future....


                                http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=109&p=2...%2f647929.html

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                                • #17
                                  He looks pissed off. Just what we need.
                                  2013 IE College Fantasy Football Champion

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                                  • #18
                                    I like the policy...if you're lookin see ya...gotta love it!

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                                    • #19
                                      yeah he doesn't look like he's in the best of moods does he

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                                      • #20
                                        Thats because he's from Compton. Can't be happy there.

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                                        • #21
                                          Do we really have a shot with this guy? I just dont see him decommiting from ucla

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                                          • #22
                                            Considering we have offers for Aghayere, Lewis-Moore, E. Johnson, Forston, Hunter, and Goebel, I don't see Datone Jones being a viable option at this point either. But I'm pretty sure there were people who didn't think we would land Gary Gray last year after he committed to South Carolina, so what do we know? :)

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by GoldenDomer3 View Post
                                              Considering we have offers for Aghayere, Lewis-Moore, E. Johnson, Forston, Hunter, and Goebel, I don't see Datone Jones being a viable option at this point either. But I'm pretty sure there were people who didn't think we would land Gary Gray last year after he committed to South Carolina, so what do we know? :)
                                              We have a shot with any guy who takes the time to come to campus. Especially now with Corwin Brown recruiting defense. Look what happened with Armando Allen last year, I thought he was a lock for Florida, but after he visited campus and started thinking about the depth chart, talking with Weis, Clausen, etc. he was sold.

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                                              • #24
                                                Anybody who is commited somewhere else and is taking visits, like the entire UCLA commit list so far(whats that about?) At ND this year for recruiting it's first come first served. Mitch Mustain? Blake Ayles? it happens. If Datone wanted to come here tomorrow Weis will not turn down his commitment like Urban the douche.

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                                                • #25
                                                  According to IUB he may be making an official visit to ND this fall. Hmm ...
                                                  Stoney is a dead man.

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                                                  • #26
                                                    More defensive lineman?
                                                    Beat USC...every year...every year. I hate 'em.

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                                                    • #27
                                                      Originally posted by AlbuquerqueIrishFan View Post
                                                      More defensive lineman?
                                                      Sorry - didn't read what you said. Just kept staring at that nice round bunda. Mmm, bunda ...
                                                      Stoney is a dead man.

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                                                      • #28
                                                        Yea, I'm never changing my picture. But I said, MORE DEFENSIVE LINEMEN?
                                                        Beat USC...every year...every year. I hate 'em.

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                                                        • #29
                                                          Originally posted by AlbuquerqueIrishFan View Post
                                                          Yea, I'm never changing my picture. But I said, MORE DEFENSIVE LINEMEN?
                                                          More bunda? Sure, I'm always up for some more bunda.
                                                          Stoney is a dead man.

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                                                          • #30
                                                            Originally posted by AlbuquerqueIrishFan View Post
                                                            Yea, I'm never changing my picture. But I said, MORE DEFENSIVE LINEMEN?
                                                            I wouldn't be suprised if they were looking at him at OLB rather than DE, or maybe it's an either/or situation because they know they like him as a defensive player and now they know that they are now out of the running for Sabino.
                                                            Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                            :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                            I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                            • #31
                                                              Profile updated and pictures added.
                                                              Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                              :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                              I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                              • #32
                                                                Per IUB, his coach says he'll be taking official visits to ND and Oregon.
                                                                Stoney is a dead man.

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                                                                • #33
                                                                  Originally posted by johnnd05 View Post
                                                                  Per IUB, his coach says he'll be taking official visits to ND and Oregon.
                                                                  Apparently that still holds true, and he has added a few more to the list. In addition to sill comming to ND and Oregon for visits, Datone also plans on making trips to Nebrska and Colorado while still "commited" to UCLA.

                                                                  Datone was also visited by Brian Polian last week.
                                                                  Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                                  :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                                  I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                                  • #34
                                                                    wow. this is a bit surprising. I really thought we were done on defense.

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                                                                    • #35
                                                                      The Bruins are also having to fight hard to hang on to four-star, Rivals250 defensive end Datone Jones. The 6-foot-4, 240-pounder is having a monster season at Compton, Calif., and his 56 tackles, 20 tackles for losses and seven sacks have kept the recruiters calling.

                                                                      Jones said he does plan to take some visits before he makes the final call, despite saying he's a solid pledge to the Bruins.

                                                                      "I'm going to visit Oregon, Notre Dame, and I'll probably also visit Nebraska and Colorado," Jones said.

                                                                      Notre Dame assistant coach Brian Polian was at Compton on Tuesday to watch Jones practice, and other schools have definitely stepped up their pursuit this season.
                                                                      (link)
                                                                      Stoney is a dead man.

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                                                                      • #36
                                                                        Does anybody thing that this has anything to do with the fact that UCLA is the most surprising team in football, winning games they shouldnt and losing games they shouldnt (except ND of course). Or possibly that Dorrell might be gone as coach next year?

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                                                                        • #37
                                                                          I doubt it. Most of the guys that they have that are "committed" have been looking around all year, even before the seaon started. That's why you'll often year people say "for now" when talking about the ranking of the recruiting class that UCLA is bringing in.
                                                                          Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                                          :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                                          I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                                          • #38
                                                                            There is still a lot of mutual interest here on both sides. Enough so that Datone has rushed up his retake for the ACT.
                                                                            Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                                            :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                                            I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                                            • #39
                                                                              Is that due to possible coaching changes at UCLA? Or was his commitment always a tentative one?
                                                                              Last edited by SoCalDomer; 11-29-2007, 12:28 AM.

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                                                                              • #40
                                                                                'Scuse my lack of understanding but where does he fit in? I know he is a DE, but is he more the outside speed rusher? I get the impression that Cwynar and Hafis are playing the opposite role of the big DE, but just wanted some clarification. If that is right is he competing with EJ?

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                                                                                • #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by piyachi View Post
                                                                                  'Scuse my lack of understanding but where does he fit in? I know he is a DE, but is he more the outside speed rusher? I get the impression that Cwynar and Hafis are playing the opposite role of the big DE, but just wanted some clarification. If that is right is he competing with EJ?
                                                                                  Yeah, he would project at the same position as EJ. Typical stong side DEs would project as the small DE/DT in a 3-4 and then they'd shift to the stong side if the brought a OLB to moved into a 4-3.
                                                                                  Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                                                  :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                                                  I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                                                  • #42
                                                                                    gotta get that Compton blood here

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                                                                                    • #43
                                                                                      Were they wearing BK's? (British Knight shoes for you young'ns) sweet.

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                                                                                        IK - Did you really go NWA on us?!

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                                                                                        • #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by SoCalDomer View Post
                                                                                          Is that due to possible coaching changes at UCLA? Or was his commitment always a tentative one?
                                                                                          Both
                                                                                          Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                                                          :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                                                          I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                                                          • #46
                                                                                            With the HC getting the boot what do you think are chances are of getting this guy?

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                                                                                            • #47
                                                                                              They might have gone up a little, but he was never really a solid commitment there anyway. The big hang up with Datone might end up being test scores, or/and his visit to ND if he ever makes it up for one.
                                                                                              Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                                                              :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                                                              I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                                                              • #48
                                                                                                In addition to Notre Dame Datone is also considering Colorado, Oregon, USC and Arizona State as possible alternatives to UCLA. He also said that Corwin Brown stopped by his school on Monday, and that Charlie Weis and Brian Polian were there last week. They're still trying to set up an official visit to Datone's house.

                                                                                                Datone also recently got his SAT score back and it is high enough to qualify him for ND, and the coaches have told him that he can set up an official visit for anytime that he'd like, but he said that it'd probably have to be after the New Year because he's going to be so busy the rest of this month with school work, and that if he were to get a break that he already promised the coaches at Colorado that he'd visit there this weekend if he were free to do so.

                                                                                                When he was aksed about what he likes the most about ND he mentioned that he just loves Notre Dame and that he's a fan. He also said that he watches them play every weekend if possible. Then in addition to that he mentioned ND's grads rates. He said that he wnats to graduate wherever he goes so that ND's 98% graduation rate for it's players was a big plus.

                                                                                                Datone plans on announcing on Fox Sports Net on NSD.
                                                                                                Last edited by GoshenGipper; 12-05-2007, 02:08 AM.
                                                                                                Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. These are only aliases. Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below. - Grantland Rice 1924 :clover:

                                                                                                :football: Brown, ND's first-year defensive coordinator, played at Michigan."(Brown) said if he would have gotten offered by Notre Dame," Slaughter said, "he would have gone to Notre Dame." :football:

                                                                                                I like to quote myself - GoshenGipper

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                                                                                                • #49
                                                                                                  Sounds to me like the kid is gonna be IRISH!
                                                                                                  Stoney is a dead man.

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                                                                                                  • #50
                                                                                                    This guy has a TON going for him that I love.

                                                                                                    1.) The fact that he's a smaller DE makes him a perfect fit for a 3-4 OLB, and gets us more athleticism on the field down the road.

                                                                                                    2.) He's from Southern California. You can never make enough inroads there, not only to hurt USC's efforts (even though they do pretty damn well every year) but because right now, it's producing some of the best college talent in the country.

                                                                                                    3.) He sounds like a good guy -- call me weird, but I love that he said he couldn't visit before New Year's because he had work and already promised Colorado a visit. That shows to me maturity and integrity, something you can't have enough of in a program.

                                                                                                    It's looking like the staff will keep a spot open for KLM, the guy from Michigan, and Datone, and whoever commits first gets the spot. I'm hoping it's Datone -- I just like everything I'm hearing about him.

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