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  • Not 2022 specific but apparently Ohio HS Football is on the menu tonight

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    • Hopefully Tommy didn’t stare at his phone all night

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      • Given the amount and severity of injuries this season, do you think this changes the number of recruits that is taken in 2022?

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        • Anyone find it weird how many of our commits are taking unofficials for games? I get they missed out last year and most are local but seems at least somewhat odd, it’s not like the committed elsewhere Chicago kids are hitting up ND a ton.

          At last read, Moore, Sneed, Chan, Walker, Williams, and JR have all caught games at other schools

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          • Surely doesn’t seem the norm for years past but maybe it’s because social media has expanded even further so it’s more difficult for the players to fly under the radar.

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            • Inching closer to 92 average class rank. Earlier in the thread talked about some of these 3 stars becoming 4. Still shocked Devin Moore isn’t higher but Raridon makes it one of that group to make the jump

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              • Drew Allar is now the #1 QB in the country and #12 overall player. I hope he's really bad or it's going to be hard to get over this one.

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                • Current class has a BCR of 76%. The roster is 55% currently for 2021.

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                  • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                    Current class has a BCR of 76%. The roster is 55% currently for 2021.
                    what's a BCR?

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                    • Originally posted by stpeteirish View Post

                      what's a BCR?
                      Blue Chip Ratio. Just 4 stars compared to 3 stars. Guy on 247 releases an article with everyone over 50% each year since I believe in the playoff era or maybe longer the national champion as always had over 50%

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                      • Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
                        Drew Allar is now the #1 QB in the country and #12 overall player. I hope he's really bad or it's going to be hard to get over this one.
                        Pain.

                        It was so obvious from his Junior film that he possesses rare arm talent. Even a bunch of schmucks like us could recognize his 3 star rating was ridiculous.

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                        • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                          Inching closer to 92 average class rank. Earlier in the thread talked about some of these 3 stars becoming 4. Still shocked Devin Moore isn’t higher but Raridon makes it one of that group to make the jump
                          Also shocked Amorion isn't higher with his offer list and measurables

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                          • I think this update was just for the top 247. They do different updates at different times. Walker and Moore obviously didn't get bumped to the top 247, but they may still be in line for smaller bumps. Moore should be top 247, easily, but maybe the lack of highlights is hurting him? He's gotta let someone get open lol.

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                            • On the new 247 update by my count we now have 12 players in the top 200. 6 on defense and 6 on offense. If we land Schrauth that would put us at 13 in the top 200. That's has to be on of the best classes BK has had. That's how you bridge the gap but you have to do this every year not this year and again in 5 years.
                              Brotherhood may fade, but it will never run

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                              • Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
                                Drew Allar is now the #1 QB in the country and #12 overall player. I hope he's really bad or it's going to be hard to get over this one.
                                It'll be hard to get over imo
                                Love You JB 64.....RIP.....AI720....4EVER

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                                • Allar water bridge. More interesting areSchrauth,Wagner,tabaracci Walker kanu and lucas

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                                  • Anyone know if Rivals or ESPN also updated?

                                    Williams for example went from:

                                    91 on 10/19 to 96 on 10/20 (247 update) to 76 today in Composite

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                                    • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                      Anyone know if Rivals or ESPN also updated?

                                      Williams for example went from:

                                      91 on 10/19 to 96 on 10/20 (247 update) to 76 today in Composite


                                      Williams still at 144 right behind Angeli on ESPN.com.

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                                      • Originally posted by irishff1014 View Post
                                        On the new 247 update by my count we now have 12 players in the top 200. 6 on defense and 6 on offense. If we land Schrauth that would put us at 13 in the top 200. That's has to be on of the best classes BK has had. That's how you bridge the gap but you have to do this every year not this year and again in 5 years.
                                        Well, if the start is any indication, '23 is looking even better.
                                        It's Just a Ride.

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                                        • Originally posted by Crazy Balki View Post

                                          Well, if the start is any indication, '23 is looking even better.
                                          especially if you use the new website on3

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                                            • Walker Howard (QB) is there I saw.
                                              "From Chaos comes Clarity"

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                                              • Originally posted by Cackalacky2.0 View Post
                                                Walker Howard (QB) is there I saw.
                                                Not sure if it's him or his mom's oldest brother.



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                                                • Originally posted by BobbyMac View Post

                                                  Not sure if it's him or his mom's oldest brother.



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                                                  Only bought a beanie to wear. He aint coming.

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                                                  • Anybody expected to pop after the weekend visits?
                                                    Love You JB 64.....RIP.....AI720....4EVER

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                                                    • Was an absolutely perfect October day for football and a great atmosphere last night at the game. I know recruits don’t make their decisions off of that, but I bet that will be echoed by almost all of them in their post-visit interviews.

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                                                      • Light show at end of the 3rd looked sweet. Couldn't have imagined that at ND 10 years ago.

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                                                        • Originally posted by NDPhilly View Post
                                                          Light show at end of the 3rd looked sweet. Couldn't have imagined that at ND 10 years ago.
                                                          I wish they would've went dark and hit the crowd with some music with deep base, didn't love the Rihanna song although I get why they used it. Hopefully they experiment to find the perfect combo. Really thought it was an awesome move

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                                                          • If you’re looking for recruiting updates from the weekend, this ISD article will get ya done. It’s premium but a lot of content in here.

                                                            https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/16163...e-dame-weekend

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                                                            • What do you make of the dead silence on Billy S and Walker Howard? Does anyone know if they stayed through Monday morning? Is silence reason for optimism, or just a coincidence?

                                                              I want Walker more than the Iowian Safety. An elite QB is the next step even though our safety position looks scary post-Hamilton.

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                                                              • Originally posted by IrishRazor82 View Post
                                                                What do you make of the dead silence on Billy S and Walker Howard? Does anyone know if they stayed through Monday morning? Is silence reason for optimism, or just a coincidence?

                                                                I want Walker more than the Iowian Safety. An elite QB is the next step even though our safety position looks scary post-Hamilton.
                                                                Loy mentioned Walker told him previously he did not want to do any interviews at this time as he is still an LSU commit

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                                                                • Originally posted by GrangerIrish24 View Post

                                                                  Loy mentioned Walker told him previously he did not want to do any interviews at this time as he is still an LSU commit
                                                                  Yikes. Thanks though.

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                                                                  • Originally posted by IrishRazor82 View Post

                                                                    Yikes. Thanks though.
                                                                    he just doesnt want anything to be public. there is communication though

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                                                                    • Recruiting Scoop: Notre Dame-USC Weekend a Success for the Irish (247sports.com)

                                                                      Here is Loy's premium article from the weekend. A lot of great stuff in there for those interested in II.

                                                                      A few things that stand out.

                                                                      Trending down for '22 DL Lucas and Kanu.

                                                                      Trending up for '23 RB's Haynes and Limar.

                                                                      Player that might have made the biggest move up their board, '23 OL Charles Jagsuah. Staff was really impressed with him.

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                                                                      • It’s interesting they are slow playing all the new offers. Kanu did not sound like a take, Tabaracci sounded like a slow play, no new WR offers. Really only 2nd QB is in acceleration mode

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                                                                        • Sooo …. Was USC weekend kind of a bust recruiting wise? Doesn’t feel like we made a big move for anyone. Schrauth was already trending ND prior to the weekend.

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                                                                          • Originally posted by NDPhilly View Post
                                                                            Sooo …. Was USC weekend kind of a bust recruiting wise? Doesn’t feel like we made a big move for anyone. Schrauth was already trending ND prior to the weekend.
                                                                            I think a lot of the really important recruits were 2023 kids. Not saying Lucas, Xavier, Schrauth aren’t important but Xavier probably wasn’t coming here regardless and Schrauth had been trending to us. Lucas IDK. There were some elite 23 kids and even 24 so I’m not super surprised none of them popped yet.
                                                                            60% of the time, it works every time.

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                                                                            • In 2023 a not insignificant amount of visitors would commit if they could and then Bowen already has an announcement date

                                                                              Schrauth was also trending Irish because they convinced him to visit, it’s just assumed at that point the visit has to go well but that technically still had to happen.

                                                                              2024 may have hit a couple home runs too. Sayin, Smith and Woodyard talking three 5 stars that ND will be heavily involved and in top group, and that could be a conservative description
                                                                              Last edited by Dale; 10-28-2021, 09:42 PM.

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                                                                              • Originally posted by NDPhilly View Post
                                                                                Sooo …. Was USC weekend kind of a bust recruiting wise? Doesn’t feel like we made a big move for anyone. Schrauth was already trending ND prior to the weekend.
                                                                                BK needs to call Nwankpa's mother every day and also offer him Hamilton's podcast.

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                                                                                • Originally posted by NDPhilly View Post
                                                                                  Sooo …. Was USC weekend kind of a bust recruiting wise? Doesn’t feel like we made a big move for anyone. Schrauth was already trending ND prior to the weekend.
                                                                                  Been pretty dead silent since Saturday night.

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                                                                                  • Freeman made a couple predictions to ND of Rhett, Jagusah and Heyward

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                                                                                    • Originally posted by Sea Turtle View Post

                                                                                      Been pretty dead silent since Saturday night.
                                                                                      No it hasn't. This schtik is getting a little tiring. You are either not paying attention or being purposefully obtuse. Between the 3 paid sites there have been dozens of updates, quotes, articles, etc. about how well last weekend went. We very well could lead for close to a dozen prospects that were on campus that day.

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                                                                                      • Heck, Loy just posted this, out of the blue, as he must he hearing really good things about Micah Tease. Who's had a phenomenal Junior Year.

                                                                                        Notre Dame is trending up here (247sports.com)

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                                                                                        • Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post

                                                                                          No it hasn't. This schtik is getting a little tiring. You are either not paying attention or being purposefully obtuse. Between the 3 paid sites there have been dozens of updates, quotes, articles, etc. about how well last weekend went. We very well could lead for close to a dozen prospects that were on campus that day.
                                                                                          Three predictions made on ISD (as mentioned above) who have been typically more conservative with their estimates/CB's than other sites.

                                                                                          Also, the fact there is a big weekend coming up may shake things loose too with pecking order and taking commitments silent/public.

                                                                                          I want rushed commitments now, so that when the decommit I can be upset!!1

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                                                                                          • A lot of guys threads here could have been updated with positive updates I personally just didn’t for the most part because there was almost too many to feel motivated to lol. So while there was no public commitment or something easy to point to there is like 40 kids you could update on, not exactly silent.

                                                                                            People may also be starting to take for granted Freeman, like close to or put in a CB for an elite CB like Rhett or 5 star safety like Woodyard is ho him dead silence nowadays.

                                                                                            The 2022 class timeline is not one to focus on fall visits. That’s not a ND thing that’s pretty across the board. The COVID rules and continued early signing day trends made the summer of 2021 probably more important than any summer will ever be class wise

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                                                                                            • Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
                                                                                              Heck, Loy just posted this, out of the blue, as he must he hearing really good things about Micah Tease. Who's had a phenomenal Junior Year.

                                                                                              Notre Dame is trending up here (247sports.com)
                                                                                              Yes but this is the 2022 recruiting thread

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                                                                                              • Originally posted by NDIrish88 View Post
                                                                                                Freeman made a couple predictions to ND of Rhett, Jagusah and Heyward
                                                                                                Heyward?

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                                                                                                • Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post

                                                                                                  No it hasn't. This schtik is getting a little tiring. You are either not paying attention or being purposefully obtuse. Between the 3 paid sites there have been dozens of updates, quotes, articles, etc. about how well last weekend went. We very well could lead for close to a dozen prospects that were on campus that day.
                                                                                                  I take it you are referring to the 2023 and beyond guys? This is the 2022 thread.

                                                                                                  I can't think of a single 2022 recruit we lead for. Quite the opposite. Several are now trending down.

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                                                                                                  • Originally posted by Sea Turtle View Post

                                                                                                    I take it you are referring to the 2023 and beyond guys? This is the 2022 thread.

                                                                                                    I can't think of a single 2022 recruit we lead for. Quite the opposite. Several are now trending down.
                                                                                                    Don't we lead for Schrauth?

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                                                                                                    • Originally posted by NDPhilly View Post

                                                                                                      Heyward?
                                                                                                      Payton I think. The 24 Cali athlete

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