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  • Originally posted by ThePiombino View Post
    I agree he had to go. Not sure how you can say recruiting wasn't good before he left. Last year's class alone (and I'm pretty sure he was lead recruiter for 2, if not all 3 of em):
    • Tyree
    • Johnson
    • Mayer




    I'm mostly concerned with the offensive side. Defensive side has rallied, especially since Mickens was brought in. And I trust Elston til he proves otherwise.



    The whole philosophy this year was short-sited pre-COVID, and glaringly more ever since. Their refusal to adjust in real-time like MANY other schools is baffling. That all said, you can't sit here and pretend that recruiting wasn't already stifled prior to COVID, however. We can pretend that ND is especially affected by lack of visits, but come on -- every other school is in the same boat and most top-tier schools have been doing just fine. Now sure, perhaps we'll see a flood of decommitments once things open back up. And maybe, just MAYBE, ND can benefit from that. But until there's some smoke regarding the recruits we need in order to take this team to the next level, I'm going to go based off of what's in the pudding right now -- stalled offensive recruiting...
    But it wasn't that's basically inarguable. They had a top 3-5 class and an absolutely loaded visit list going into March/April timeframe. That is nothing short of a smashing success at that point in time.

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    • Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post
      But it wasn't that's basically inarguable. They had a top 3-5 class and an absolutely loaded visit list going into March/April timeframe. That is nothing short of a smashing success at that point in time.
      Having a top-3-5 recruiting class 12+ month before NSD and a $1.50 will get you a can of soda...
      Last edited by ThePiombino; 06-26-2020, 12:58 PM.

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      • Originally posted by ThePiombino View Post
        Having a top-3-5 recruiting class 12+ month before NSD and a $1.50 will get you a can of soda...
        Quality response. I'm glad you realize that was not an accurate comment.

        Are they in a good spot now? No. Will they be on NSD? Probably not, but TBD.

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        • I'd be interested in knowing just how much this happens.

          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Texas A&amp;M football program violated NCAA recruiting and countable athletically related activity rules: <a href="https://t.co/aNqBGRiTr5">https://t.co/aNqBGRiTr5</a> <a href="https://t.co/TUwuhrZ78Q">pic.twitter.com/TUwuhrZ78Q</a></p>&mdash; Inside the NCAA (@InsidetheNCAA) <a href="https://twitter.com/InsidetheNCAA/status/1278725209462358016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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          • https://247sports.com/college/footba...ust-149025587/

            Tony Grimes going to UNC next month. Can you imagine if Buchner did this lol, fanbase would explode.

            Buchner might not be the best example, since he likely wouldn't play yet, but none of the other commits would really cause shockwaves. Maybe in an alternate universe where Shipley committed to ND, if he was all of a sudden showing up for this season, boom, pandemonium.
            Last edited by fightingirish26; 07-10-2020, 05:16 PM.

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            • <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas A&amp;M commitment from Westlake Village (Calif.) says he will enroll early at A&amp;M after California moves to spring high school football. Have to think there will be more. <a href="https://t.co/TcBCYqnjnk">https://t.co/TcBCYqnjnk</a></p>&mdash; Chuck Carlton (@ChuckCarltonDMN) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/1285262153067507712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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              • Vaka was an EE anyways. Nothing changed about that.

                He more lost his Sr. year than skipped it. Narrative.

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                • “ Dan (Dan Patrick) says that he's heard from source that Tennessee football will face a serious investigation. He also said that Georgia could be next. "I was told Georgia got sloppy in recruiting."

                  Tweet from Andrew Perloff

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                  • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                    ď Dan (Dan Patrick) says that he's heard from source that Tennessee football will face a serious investigation. He also said that Georgia could be next. "I was told Georgia got sloppy in recruiting."

                    Tweet from Andrew Perloff
                    lol sloppy = giving cash to people?
                    What did Davonte do?

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                    • Imagine being cheating and still being actual shit.

                      Funnier than you in 2012.

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                      • Originally posted by greyhammer90 View Post
                        Imagine being cheating and still being actual shit.
                        Reminded me of this chart:



                        We're obviously frustrated by our inability to hang with 'Bama, OSU and Clemson, but there are a bunch of programs on that list that are spending a lot more than we are and getting much worse results.

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                        • https://247sports.com/college/Notre-...all-159643393/
                          Off-field recruiting position that should be emerging in college football
                          By STEVE WILTFONG

                          When former five-star defensive lineman Ed Oliver took a visit to the Houston campus many years ago he asked one of the coaches upon his arrival where Bryan Carrington was. Carrington at the time was a student-assistant, sitting in class. And he was one of the Cougar staff members Oliver chatted with the most.

                          A terrific networker with a desire to meet and talk to people, you fast forward five years later and in my opinion Carrington is one of the more important off-field staffers in college football, having carved out a niche he started at his alma mater.

                          Now holding the title of Director of Recruiting at the University of Texas, Carrington has been instrumental in landing the likes of Caden Sterns, Joseph Ossai, Bijan Robinson and countless more. Heís oftentimes one of the ambassadors at the forefront of the Longhorns football program on the recruiting trail, building relationships all over the state and country. Connections that carry over to when these prospects are on the team that help maintain the team culture. Bonds that could also prove to be big down the road, whether itís landing a player from this new and trendy NCAA Transfer Portal or even keeping one of your own out of those waters.

                          Carrington isnít the only one that shines in this role.

                          You have Gavin Morris at USC, perhaps the pioneer of the gig with the Director of Player Development title who helps the Trojans secure blue-chipper year after year, most notably the No. 1 player in the country in Korey Foreman this cycle.

                          Jeff Martin is the Lead Personnel Analyst/Player Development at his alma mater LSU where he certainly impacted Grant Delpit and Maurice Hampton among many others and was the first face Joe Burrow saw when he landed in Baton Rouge as a potential transfer. Burrow made his own decision but the fact that Martin was the first person to greet him when he stepped off the plane shows you the importance of his role in the recruiting department.

                          There are several others like these gentlemen - Chip Viney at Oklahoma, David Cooper at Florida, Corey Phillips formerly of Vanderbilt, Mason Smith currently at Mississippi State - as guys that constantly promote the school and coaching staff they work for in helping land key recruits and transfers.

                          I think every college program should boast someone of this skill set, a person with tremendous people skills that can articulate the program's message daily on the recruiting trail, advocating for the staff, the academics and everything else a football program would like put in a positive light. A person who's sole job being maintaining relationships with prospects, their parents, high school coaches, 7on7 coaches, trainers etc. Someone that can keep the lines of communication going when head coach and assistants are busy with other things. We've seen graduate assistants come through in this regard as well. These programs that already have people in place are lucky to have these guys. Itís probably the difference in at least a few recruiting wins a year.

                          With that, I think weíre going to see more schools look for guys to be on their staff solely for harvesting relationships and talent acquisition. Whatís the point of spending countless hours evaluating and putting your recruiting board together based on talent and personality fit, if youíre not going to exhaust every resource in trying to sign the ones you want the most. There are ace on-field recruiters all over the country, a few head coaches that put in more hours than their peers, but coaching staffs aren't stocked with go-getters from top to bottom.

                          None of these off-field recruiting roles were really appreciated from a compensation standpoint until recently. Itís been awesome to see the raises that off-field recruiting guys have been getting in college football, but that increasing salary has really only gone to the leaders in the department. The trickle down has been slow, and while these guys mentioned donít maybe head the off-field staff, what they do has great value as well. When thereís a big recruiting weekend, Carrington, Morris, Martin and company are there for every experience. If itís a defensive lineman on campus, does your receiver coach need to be there? The off-field recruiting guys do. It's really a 24/7 job including Sundays and holidays in the previous said talent acquisition role.

                          Earlier this week 247Sports Director of Video and Late Kick Host Josh Pate scribed ďevolution of the transfer portal has necessitated a restructuring of college football scouting departments. Any program lacking this 4th category is already way behind.

                          General Manager/Dir of Player Personnel

                          Dir. of HS scouting

                          Dir. of JUCO scouting

                          Dir. of FBS/FCS scouting

                          Pate agrees this fifth role of talent acquisition regardless of the title given is just as important. These guys don't miss phone calls from prospects. They're constantly available. Sometimes they even replace a coach on the road recruiting. With the time, energy and emotion put into it, hopefully the compensation soon matches. The first few programs that really invest will be ahead of the curve.
                          What did Davonte do?

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                          • <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2022 five-star quarterback Gunner Stockton commits to Georgia:<a href="https://t.co/9LMDH1aDvR">https://t.co/9LMDH1aDvR</a> <a href="https://t.co/4RZXfWMZZL">pic.twitter.com/4RZXfWMZZL</a></p>&mdash; 247Sports Recruiting (@247recruiting) <a href="https://twitter.com/247recruiting/status/1354838660206759941?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                            What did Davonte do?

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                            • Where do we think he’ll transfer in 2023?

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                              • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                Where do we think heíll transfer in 2023?
                                I'm gonna guess some "sloppy seconds" program like Arkansas, Miami, or Texas

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                                • Bo Bordelon committed to LSU.

                                  3 Star OL seems pretty ho hum right?

                                  His Dad is a former LSU player and Mom is the blonde in the White House dancing video that went viral so seems to be a family still heavily involved with LSU football.

                                  Oh and he happens to play in front of one Arch Manning.

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                                  • Video Of Nick Saban Recruiting A 5-Star On Zoom Has Leaked

                                    https://thespun.com/more/top-stories...-5-star-leaked

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                                    • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
                                      Video Of Nick Saban Recruiting A 5-Star On Zoom Has Leaked

                                      https://thespun.com/more/top-stories...-5-star-leaked
                                      everything he said was fair tbh
                                      What did Davonte do?

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                                      • <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NCAA is exploring 3 proposals to adjust the policy that limits a team&#39;s annual new signees to 25, officials tell <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SINow</a>.<br><br>Could happen as soon as next cycle.<br><br>Under one proposal, a team could replace each player who left for NFL or transfer portal.<a href="https://t.co/NpzQcUafFN">https://t.co/NpzQcUafFN</a></p>&mdash; Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) <a href="https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1356629519000604673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                        What did Davonte do?

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                                        • <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TO BE CONTINUEDÖÖ<a href="https://twitter.com/Fairfield_FB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Fairfield_FB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ChadSimmons_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChadSimmons_</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@247Sports</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/IndianaFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IndianaFootb all</a> <a href="https://t.co/CfqVuk96AI">pic.twitter.com/CfqVuk96AI</a></p>&mdash; MB≤ (@MightyMal_2) <a href="https://twitter.com/MightyMal_2/status/1356678816731721730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

                                          Four star 2021 WR out of AL chooses IU over UAB
                                          What did Davonte do?

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                                          • <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On to the next chapter. Committed. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllGasNoBrakes?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"># AllGasNoBrakes</a> <a href="https://t.co/VKNuApsmcW">pic.twitter.com/VKNuApsmcW</a></p>&mdash; Maalik (@SmvOperator) <a href="https://twitter.com/SmvOperator/status/1360704578606440453?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

                                            Five star QB who has never started a HS game. His ranking is all from camps. Crazy stuff
                                            What did Davonte do?

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                                            • Ty Simpson committed to Alabama. Last minute (publicly) swoop in

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                                              • Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                                Ty Simpson committed to Alabama. Last minute (publicly) swoop in
                                                stings for clemson i bet
                                                What did Davonte do?

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                                                • Originally posted by dublinirish View Post

                                                  stings for clemson i bet
                                                  Idk if me personally wouldn’t have taken Cade Klubnik from the beginning. Offered instantly after Simpson’s commitment and sounds like near lock for Clemson

                                                  Champagne problems

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