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  • '23 KS QB Avery Johnson (Offer)



    Quarterback
    Maize, KS
    Maize HS

    Measurements
    Ht: 6'2"
    Wt: 167

    Ratings
    247 Comp: 0.9364 Composite, #11 QB, #159 Overall
    247: 90 rating, #14 QB, #236 Overall
    Rivals:
    ESPN: 84 grade, #2 DT QB, #99 Overall

    Offers
    Notre Dame
    Arizona
    Arizona State
    Arkansas
    Florida State
    Georgia Tech
    Iowa State
    Kansas
    Kansas State
    Minnesota
    Ole Miss
    TCU
    Tennessee
    Virginia Tech
    Washington State

    Last edited by clashmore_mike; 07-27-2021, 07:48 PM.

  • #2
    On campus now per Tom Loy, could be next in line for an offer after making a good impression on staff.

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    • #3
      He will be playing at our Stadium here in Derby, Ks on Oct 15th. Looking forward to checking him out. On a side note Derby is the hometown for Notre Dame football team doctor Matt Leiszler. His parents live 2 houses down from me.

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      • #4
        End of June turned into end of July and here we are. No time like the present. Let's OFFER!

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        • #5
          I remember the first day the staff was tweeting those graphics about their virtual visits to HSs Tommy tweeted he was “in” Kansas. Few mins of digging said this guy was the only possible reason lol

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dale View Post
            I remember the first day the staff was tweeting those graphics about their virtual visits to HSs Tommy tweeted he was “in” Kansas. Few mins of digging said this guy was the only possible reason lol
            FWIW, I believe those were broken down by region and that's Rees's region. So, more coincidence than targeted towards Avery.

            And, I don't believe they were targeted at specific prospects but the schools, staff, and faculty.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post

              FWIW, I believe those were broken down by region and that's Rees's region. So, more coincidence than targeted towards Avery.

              And, I don't believe they were targeted at specific prospects but the schools, staff, and faculty.
              I know how the process works but okay lol. Just guessing Tommy likely checked in on Maize HS knowing a QB target was there. I’d hope so at least haha

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dale View Post
                I remember the first day the staff was tweeting those graphics about their virtual visits to HSs Tommy tweeted he was “in” Kansas. Few mins of digging said this guy was the only possible reason lol
                Well, you said this was the only possible reason Tommy was in Kansas and I was simply explaining that wasn't the case.

                He was in Kansas because that's his region. And for the national push they were taking regions and reaching out to the schools they wanted to target in those regions. Not even specific prospects. Now, there were schools that had targets at them because we tend to recruit a lot of the same schools every cycle but it certainly wasn't setup that way. At least that's not how ISD explained it to it's readers.

                Some of the schools actually had no current targets at them. It was more about relationship building.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post

                  Well, you said this was the only possible reason Tommy was in Kansas and I was simply explaining that wasn't the case.

                  He was in Kansas because that's his region. And for the national push they were taking regions and reaching out to the schools they wanted to target in those regions. Not even specific prospects. Now, there were schools that had targets at them because we tend to recruit a lot of the same schools every cycle but it certainly wasn't setup that way. At least that's not how ISD explained it to it's readers.

                  Some of the schools actually had no current targets at them. It was more about relationship building.
                  Good grief did it seem like the post was being serious? It was me remembering how I knew his name and making a passing anecdote. Lighten up one time

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dale View Post

                    Good grief did it seem like the post was being serious? It was me remembering how I knew his name and making a passing anecdote. Lighten up one time
                    I'm not mad or upset. I'm simply clarifying for the board that what you said was not the case. No reason for it to go this far. You can choose to respond or not but it's ok to be wrong or to misspeak/type. I have not been offensive or rude, in any manner. Please try to refrain from making this a silly back and forth situation when all I've done is politely corrected the mistake. That's all.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post

                        I'm not mad or upset. I'm simply clarifying for the board that what you said was not the case. No reason for it to go this far. You can choose to respond or not but it's ok to be wrong or to misspeak/type. I have not been offensive or rude, in any manner. Please try to refrain from making this a silly back and forth situation when all I've done is politely corrected the mistake. That's all.



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                        • #13
                          This dude's the most athletic out of all of the QB's the staff swapped follows with the first go around.

                          Accomplished hooper too. He'll poke on ya in a heartbeat if you get in his way.

                          My first impression was I liked him 2nd after Nico I. Dante Moore would be a better catch for Starpoints & better to have a Great Lakes product for recruiting to help out but they could do a lot worse as an athletic prospect.

                          Really interested to find out what this means. Unusual circle back at this time.

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                            Offered.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BobbyMac View Post
                              This dude's the most athletic out of all of the QB's the staff swapped follows with the first go around.

                              Accomplished hooper too. He'll poke on ya in a heartbeat if you get in his way.

                              My first impression was I liked him 2nd after Nico I. Dante Moore would be a better catch for Starpoints & better to have a Great Lakes product for recruiting to help out but they could do a lot worse as an athletic prospect.

                              Really interested to find out what this means. Unusual circle back at this time.
                              Agreed. Seems fishy, like maybe Dante is out or maybe they are trying to rush him? Odd timing.

                              BUT . . .this kid can sling it. Very athletic like Bobby said. Pocket collapses and keeps his eyes down field.

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                              • #16
                                Love his film

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                                • #17
                                  Dynamic looking player……..and once he puts on some additional muscle weight, he could be a baller if he’s got the mental make-up to go with it.

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                                  • #18


                                    Wonder considering the decent names with offers that were on campus in June, how much better Rees viewed Johnson’s workout as. What type of gap we talking (apparently an offers worth size gap)

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                                    • #19
                                      Loy said in addition to his throwing, he ran a 4.5 in his workout

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                        Loy said in addition to his throwing, he ran a 4.5 in his workout
                                        He certainly looked fast in his game file, impressive!

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                                        • #21
                                          I know I shouldn't read too much into the twitter chatter, but Dante Moore and Carnell Tate are putting A LOT of pro ND content out together. This offer seems to have odd timing.

                                          That being said I wouldn't be unhappy if this kid ended up being the QB ND takes for 23. Looks like a good athlete and gamer to me.

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                                          • #22
                                            Not odd or strange IMO. There's what, one QB commit so far for 22 & 23? If you find one you like offer them.

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                                            • #23
                                              From his 247 and Rivals updates, him and Rees really really hit it off. Rees loved his competitiveness and sounds like Johnson could sense it from Rees too.

                                              Said he is gonna decide after JR season.

                                              I like that timeframe for ND. I think Moore is aware QBs commit earlier as well and you can full court press Moore and push for a commitment this fall and if does not work out Johnson is likely wanting to see what he can get offer wise during the fall and you turn to him if Moore goes elsewhere. A good shot at Moore with a good shot at Johnson as your other option may be all Rees rides with. I can’t see Hudson, Dorman etc getting offered anytime soon right now.

                                              Rivals: https://bit.ly/2VcqFjs
                                              247: https://247sports.com/college/notre-...ish-168396740/

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by NDIrish88 View Post
                                                I know I shouldn't read too much into the twitter chatter, but Dante Moore and Carnell Tate are putting A LOT of pro ND content out together. This offer seems to have odd timing.

                                                That being said I wouldn't be unhappy if this kid ended up being the QB ND takes for 23. Looks like a good athlete and gamer to me.
                                                I don't think it's odd at all. Tommy needed to expand the board in the worst way. They found one they like and put on a pretty good show for him. Honestly, I would like them to expand the board another scholarship or two.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Loy called NDs lead “significant” but others may be higher on the board here

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                                                  • #26
                                                    Avery will be playing at my local high school (Derby High School, same high school as Notre Dame team doctor Matt Leiszler) on Oct 22nd. I will try to get some video of his play. Derby is the defending state champs and have won 6 of the last 8 state titles. Derby also has 3* RB Dylan Edwards that played some youth ball with Avery.

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                                                    • #27
                                                      QB recruiting for 2023 is in a pretty phenomenal spot. Makes sense why they were content to take the "low risk" option in Angeli.

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                                                      • #28
                                                        Originally posted by NDPhilly View Post
                                                        QB recruiting for 2023 is in a pretty phenomenal spot. Makes sense why they were content to take the "low risk" option in Angeli.
                                                        I know you’re referring to the staff’s thought process or what it appears to be, but I completely disagree with this logic and it has second to third tier program written all over it.

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                                                        • #29
                                                          Originally posted by 317Irish View Post

                                                          I know you’re referring to the staff’s thought process or what it appears to be, but I completely disagree with this logic and it has second to third tier program written all over it.
                                                          Yeah we should be bringing in a Buchner, Moore, Nico every single cycle. Let them compete for the job and whoever is on the outs can transfer. Angeli is a wasted class in terms of the QB spot.

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                                                          • #30
                                                            Originally posted by 317Irish View Post
                                                            I know you’re referring to the staff’s thought process or what it appears to be, but I completely disagree with this logic and it has second to third tier program written all over it.
                                                            Originally posted by GATTACA! View Post
                                                            Yeah we should be bringing in a Buchner, Moore, Nico every single cycle. Let them compete for the job and whoever is on the outs can transfer. Angeli is a wasted class in terms of the QB spot.
                                                            Very bad juju here.

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                                                            • #31
                                                              I really think Angeli is being severely overlooked here. Look at what he's done so far this season. I'm glad we have him and don't think he's a waste at all.

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                                                              • #32
                                                                I’m expecting Angeli to be an excellent player for the Irish, he’s only going to get better!

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                                                                • #33
                                                                  With the transfer system, NIL and the swing and miss rate for QBs across college football, ND should be looking to take 2 QBs when they can.
                                                                  Take this guy and tell him we are also going after Moore or Nico.

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                                                                  • #34
                                                                    Originally posted by T-Boone View Post
                                                                    With the transfer system, NIL and the swing and miss rate for QBs across college football, ND should be looking to take 2 QBs when they can.
                                                                    Take this guy and tell him we are also going after Moore or Nico.
                                                                    I was going to post this earlier. If ND truly has such a large lead, maybe they can get him with another one of these guys. It’s probably hard to do but worth a shot. As long as you have the conversations before anybody commits.

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                                                                    • #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Luckylucci View Post

                                                                      I was going to post this earlier. If ND truly has such a large lead, maybe they can get him with another one of these guys. It’s probably hard to do but worth a shot. As long as you have the conversations before anybody commits.
                                                                      Yeah, we could tell this guy to look to the other Avery QB on our roster.
                                                                      At worst you can switch to WR if you want.

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                                                                      • #36
                                                                        Originally posted by RockinIrish View Post
                                                                        I’m expecting Angeli to be an excellent player for the Irish, he’s only going to get better!
                                                                        I'm expecting Angeli to be stuck behind Buchner for two years, lose a QB competition to whoever we took in '23, and then transfer to Rutgers or Syracuse.

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                                                                        • #37
                                                                          Originally posted by GATTACA! View Post

                                                                          I'm expecting Angeli to be stuck behind Buchner for two years, lose a QB competition to whoever we took in '23, and then transfer to Rutgers or Syracuse.
                                                                          We've done this like 3 times over the past 10 years on this board and never learn. I fully expect Angeli to be a three year starter a la Rees and Book.

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                                                                          • #38
                                                                            Originally posted by tussin View Post

                                                                            We've done this like 3 times over the past 10 years on this board and never learn. I fully expect Angeli to be a three year starter a la Rees and Book.
                                                                            and Pyne?

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                                                                            • #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Dale View Post

                                                                              and Pyne?
                                                                              That ship has most likely sailed.

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                                                                                Originally posted by SoIll View Post

                                                                                That ship has most likely sailed.
                                                                                That was kinda my point, there were we’ve seen this movie Pyne posts in the Spring and fast forward and we’ve seen Buchner by WK 2

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                                                                                    If we’re talking about 2 QB classes. Please make Johnson one of 2 in the ‘23 class.

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                                                                                    • #43
                                                                                      I'm all for Avery being in the fold, but don't mistake that Salina South game for anything impressive. My local High School (Derby HS) just trounced Salina South 77-7, and it was 70-0 at halftime with a running clock from halfway through the 2nd quarter, and they only ran 33 plays vs Salina Souths 63 plays.

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