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  • Originally posted by stpeteirish View Post
    Duke is next. They are #1 but are winning close games, including a one goal win over Syr.
    Duke is pretty much a dream team right now..Finishing the season twice against Duke, a loaded UNC team, and a rematch with Syracuse is going to be incredibly difficult.

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    • Irish took down previously undefeated Duke today. Duke was 10-0 and pretty much everyone's #1 going in.Puts ND squarely in the hunt for the National title.

      ND does have a history of beating Duke in the regular season and losing to them in the NCAA's. I think they said we were 6-4 in the regular season and 0-5 in the NCAA's vs them.

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      • Big win. Complete team. Going to be a dog fight to win a title, but ND definitely belongs in the top tier.

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        • Great, complete game by ND...minus Gallagher...blah to his performance....But it was also so typical Duke...not quite as sharp, or focused during a few regular season games. Really should be an insane tourney, as the top teams that stole the Ivy League's best, are just stacked.

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          • Very disappointing loss last night after dominating Duke for 3.5 quarters. Could not clear the ball or pick up a GB for the final five minutes of the game. Usually that's what ND does to other teams when they're in desperation comeback mode. The remaining games against UNC and Syracuse are now vitally important for seeding.

            And disallowing the Kavanagh game winner because his shoe fell off was... interesting.

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            • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
              Very disappointing loss last night after dominating Duke for 3.5 quarters. Could not clear the ball or pick up a GB for the final five minutes of the game. Usually that's what ND does to other teams when they're in desperation comeback mode. The remaining games against UNC and Syracuse are now vitally important for seeding.

              And disallowing the Kavanagh game winner because his shoe fell off was... interesting.

              I watched the first 3 quarters last night and was shocked to wake up this morning to see they lost. That was a dominating performance from what I saw, I think at one point they were up 20 something to 3 on shots?

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              • Originally posted by clashmore_mike View Post


                I watched the first 3 quarters last night and was shocked to wake up this morning to see they lost. That was a dominating performance from what I saw, I think at one point they were up 20 something to 3 on shots?
                A couple of observations: 1) Staff should have called a "let's calm down and focus" TO 2 or 3 goals into the Duke run (they had 2 left at that point). Secondly, the D was gassed at the end of the game. Using TOs and longer offensive possessions is the smart coaching move there. 2) Body language matters. One staff exudes "I think I can" and the the other HC exudes "Oh crap, here it goes again". A team picks up on the vibe in both cases. Coaching staffs should critique themselves (using the film) as well as players.

                Post-mortem: Catching and throwing (not panic passes) on clears after great defensive stands and getting the full 80 seconds on offense is critical to closing a game out. SSDMs need to pick players up further out. Watch the film and see how deep the shorties engage with mitts at times in the fourth quarter. Too shallow for team D to be effective. Letting Sowers use a pick to get his hands free to shoot is not good team D. Keeper played lights out all night. Loved Arden's game, #10 played a great game but fatigue hurt him in the last quarter. Not enough quality depth at the shorties and LSM. #43 struggled (too many TOs and missed lay up shots) all night on offense.

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                • Originally posted by Picasso View Post

                  A couple of observations: 1) Staff should have called a "let's calm down and focus" TO 2 or 3 goals into the Duke run (they had 2 left at that point). Secondly, the D was gassed at the end of the game. Using TOs and longer offensive possessions is the smart coaching move there. 2) Body language matters. One staff exudes "I think I can" and the the other HC exudes "Oh crap, here it goes again". A team picks up on the vibe in both cases. Coaching staffs should critique themselves (using the film) as well as players.

                  Post-mortem: Catching and throwing (not panic passes) on clears after great defensive stands and getting the full 80 seconds on offense is critical to closing a game out. SSDMs need to pick players up further out. Watch the film and see how deep the shorties engage with mitts at times in the fourth quarter. Too shallow for team D to be effective. Letting Sowers use a pick to get his hands free to shoot is not good team D. Keeper played lights out all night. Loved Arden's game, #10 played a great game but fatigue hurt him in the last quarter. Not enough quality depth at the shorties and LSM. #43 struggled (too many TOs and missed lay up shots) all night on offense.
                  100% spot on. I have no clue why... especially after the margin was cut to 2... they didn't take a timeout with how clearly gassed the defense is. Part of the reason they were so much less aggressive on approaches and contesting Duke on the perimeter towards the end was tired legs. It's a vicious cycle of losing GBs/failing to clear so you play more defense then lose more GBs then play more defense so you lose more GBs.......

                  The play that really made me want to pull my hair out though was when ND cleared it with Cassidy and had a shot at an open cage that would've been backed up... but went offsides because they put in a clearing middie and no one was paying attention to their onside responsibility. Just casually waltzed across the midfield line behind the play for no reason. At that point, it was very clear that not only was the team physically gassed but they were mentally gassed. You have to take a timeout there and settle everyone down.

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                  • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post

                    And disallowing the Kavanagh game winner because his shoe fell off was... interesting.
                    I agree, I just saw the highlights and I thought they would've called ND for an illegal pick. If a running back loses his shoe on a long run at the 15, but scores a touchdown they don't call the play dead do they?

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                    • Loss is on me, 100%. I refused to watch, sure we were going to lose and turned it on with 9 minutes to go, when it was obvious we would win. Literally did nothing good from that point on.

                      Penalty on us in the OT was like a mercy killing. We were already on life support after playing nothing but defense the last few minutes and then some more in OT. Playing extremely hard too. Those last few faceoffs were like all out wars. Nothing went our way.

                      Quick turnaround for NC game is not our friend. And I think I saw Jose Boyer limp off in the OT with what looked like a hammy pull. Stellar broadcast crew made no mention of it.

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                      • Originally posted by irishandy View Post

                        I agree, I just saw the highlights and I thought they would've called ND for an illegal pick. If a running back loses his shoe on a long run at the 15, but scores a touchdown they don't call the play dead do they?
                        Apparently, by letter of the law that was the correct call. But talking with the guys I coach with today literally none of us can ever remember a time when a goal was called back because a guy's shoe fell off. And I also learned today that apparently different stoppage rules apply depending on whether it's the ball carrier or another player that has an equipment issue. Truly crazy stuff.

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                        • Call me crazy, but I am actually okay with that loss. Pretty good chance that ND will have to go through Duke at some point come tourney time. I'm tired of the same old story of beating Duke in the regular season and then crapping their pants to them when it matters. They totally just soiled themselves in that game. Now go change your diapers, put your big boy pants on and knock the livin' snot out of this team when you really need to!

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                          • Originally posted by irishrb View Post
                            Call me crazy, but I am actually okay with that loss. Pretty good chance that ND will have to go through Duke at some point come tourney time. I'm tired of the same old story of beating Duke in the regular season and then crapping their pants to them when it matters. They totally just soiled themselves in that game. Now go change your diapers, put your big boy pants on and knock the livin' snot out of this team when you really need to!
                            Ok, as of today you're crazy. The way the Irish lost to Duke will do one of two things: 1) make a team more resilient in the face of adversity or 2) raise serious self doubt. Based on today's second half implosion, I would posit, its 2) as of now. Evidence: How do you shoot a low percentage shot from pretty far out on a hot goalie with no back up when you're man down and mounting a comeback (it resulted in a goal the other way)? Why can't we make (multiple occurances) simple clearing passes/decisions after a long defensive stand. The same weaknesses I've been pointing out all year are still there: less than stellar rope unit play. Aside from #24, the SSDMs are struggling (did you see our shorty effectively seal #10 (he should have doubled hard) from defending Gray when he scored from behind?) and the LSMs are sub par (see back door cut) at best. When your rope unit starts faltering a normally stalwart close D unit starts cheating too far making them ineffective at their primary duty. Thank God the team has the Rock of Gibraltar in the cage. This team is still a work in progress on offense but needs to play with higher lacrosse IQ. To quote BB's pre-game speech to the Midshipmen this past weekend, "its not about emotion, its about execution. Do your job!"
                            Last edited by Picasso; 04-25-2021, 07:50 PM.

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                            • Ya, I was not impressed with them at all today. I caught myself saying I miss players like Sexton multiple times today. And ya, that boneheaded shot by Will Yorke was so frustrating!
                              Now they really need to regroup and beat Cuse at home. It's a mature group so who knows, maybe they get their ducks in a row.

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                              • Originally posted by irishrb View Post
                                Ya, I was not impressed with them at all today. I caught myself saying I miss players like Sexton multiple times today. And ya, that boneheaded shot by Will Yorke was so frustrating!
                                Now they really need to regroup and beat Cuse at home. It's a mature group so who knows, maybe they get their ducks in a row.
                                Totally doable, but the Cuse played well against the Wahoos. Let's see if the staff can coach them up? Lots of film to review this week. This team could still make the championship but the senior (including transfers) leadership needs to step it up now. We need better games from WY and the Penn pole in particular and marked improvement in ground balls and the clearing game. Good decisions and composure under pressure equals winning lacrosse!

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                                • The Irish are putting it on Syracuse currently on ESPNU. 17-6 with about 5 min left in the 3rd.

                                  edit: make that 18-6.

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                                  • What's going on at Syracuse? I have seen bits and pieces on twitter but haven't really dug into any specifics.

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                                    • Originally posted by clashmore_mike View Post
                                      What's going on at Syracuse? I have seen bits and pieces on twitter but haven't really dug into any specifics.
                                      One of their top players — who wears the famed #22 — allegedly assault a girl and then their coach reinstated him and the team said “if he’s here, then we’re not” and threatened to not show up to practice if he was there. So there’s basically a full on mutiny happening in upstate New York.

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                                      • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post

                                        One of their top players — who wears the famed #22 — allegedly assault a girl and then their coach reinstated him and the team said “if he’s here, then we’re not” and threatened to not show up to practice if he was there. So there’s basically a full on mutiny happening in upstate New York.
                                        Thanks! I was going to ask the same thing as Mike. Not often you see breaking news in NCAA LAX. Go Irish!

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                                        • Now on to the NCAA's. With the win we'll grab a top 8 seed and host on May 15/16. They've already named us a host for one of the regionals May 22/23. So we could qualify for the final four without leaving South Bend.

                                          Pretty good chance we'll run into one or more of the 3 teams who beat us; Virgina, Duke and N Carolina. Lost those 3 by a total four points so I like our chances.

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                                          • That was definitely a distracted Cuse Team. Either way, dominant performance by the Irish. Good win going into tourney time. This tourney should be insane, as the top 5 teams all truly have a legit chance to win it. Hopefully Gallagher steps his game up against the other Elite FOGO's because it looks like Kavanagh is going to will this team to win!

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                                            • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post

                                              One of their top players — who wears the famed #22 — allegedly assault a girl and then their coach reinstated him and the team said “if he’s here, then we’re not” and threatened to not show up to practice if he was there. So there’s basically a full on mutiny happening in upstate New York.
                                              No rush to judgement here as this is a matter for the University's judicial system and/or a Syracuse court of law. That being said, I'm guessing the entire team has a pretty good idea of what happened and they basically told Desko to "pound sand" and took a moral stand on the matter. If what is alleged happened, this young man needs to focus on his mental state of mind and behavior not lacrosse. Kudos on the unanimous vote and intestinal fortitude to take a stand. And yes, this type of event may bring a team together but is extremely disruptive to the team/coach dynamic and the ability to focus on the task at hand.

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                                              • Originally posted by Picasso View Post

                                                No rush to judgement here as this is a matter for the University's judicial system and/or a Syracuse court of law. That being said, I'm guessing the entire team has a pretty good idea of what happened and they basically told Desko to "pound sand" and took a moral stand on the matter. If what is alleged happened, this young man needs to focus on his mental state of mind and behavior not lacrosse. Kudos on the unanimous vote and intestinal fortitude to take a stand. And yes, this type of event may bring a team together but is extremely disruptive to the team/coach dynamic and the ability to focus on the task at hand.
                                                Crazy situation. Could implode or it could have the opposite effect like UVA and the Brattons a few years back. Something hasn’t been right with Cuse in years. How long does Desko have left?
                                                Last edited by clashmore_mike; 05-04-2021, 07:22 AM.

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