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Originally posted by ColinKSU View Post
Considering Mike has completely given up on recruiting, this program is in for some extremely rough waters after it’s current extremely disappointing upperclassmen graduate.
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Originally posted by Luckylucci View PostWell, I really like the players that he's expected to have back. Let's hope they can collectively produce A LOT more than what they have so far. Would be a massive failure if this team isn't an NCAA tourney competitive bunch next season.
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Originally posted by notredomer23 View PostThe team will be good next year and probably has Sweet 16 talent. It's after next year that is scary.Love Thee Notre Dame!
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Originally posted by irishandy View PostWas there really anyone out there that ND could've gone after? Would be nice to see Brey get back to recruiting. I am still not sold on the senior to be class.
We just got DESTROYED by a mediocre UNC team in the ACC tournament. I don't see any additions to the lineup next year to change our outlook either.My two favorite football teams: Notre Dame, and whoever's playing Michigan.
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It's that the team played with NO passion, NO toughness and if the 3 ball wasn't hitting, there was absolutely nothing.....the rebounding sucks and we have got to be one of the least athletic teams in the nation.....EMPTY SPACE WAITING FOR THE NEXT HOT TAKE
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Originally posted by BabyIrish View Post
To me this team didn't look anywhere close to a sweet 16 talent wise. I don't expect them to make that kind of jump at all next year. The ceiling for me is lucky to make the tourney.
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Originally posted by notredomer23 View Post
They return everyone besides maybe Durham and Diogo and add the Ivy League player of the year. They’re going to be much better next year and should be a force in the ACC. Again, it’s not next year that’s the issue. I’d rather be good 3-5 years from now than let Brey get one more year. With Brey running things there won’t even be enough scholarship players after next year.
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Originally posted by notredomer23 View Post
They return everyone besides maybe Durham and Diogo and add the Ivy League player of the year. They’re going to be much better next year and should be a force in the ACC. Again, it’s not next year that’s the issue. I’d rather be good 3-5 years from now than let Brey get one more year. With Brey running things there won’t even be enough scholarship players after next year.
To be a force next year they’d have to play like the 15/16 teams.
You’d need:
Hubb to be like DJ- not happening
Goodwin to be like Vastuaria- not happening
Cormac to be like Grant/Beachem- not happening
Laz to be like Connaughton/Collin- not likely
And Mr. Ivy League to be like Auguste- Very possible
Again from my perspective we will be lucky to make the tourney next year.
Love Thee Notre Dame!
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Originally posted by stpeteirish View Post
How do you figure we'll be better? Durham and Djogo are not "maybe" leaving, they have stated they are leaving. Brey is staying. How do we get better? Hubb, et al have been around for 3 years and haven't improved jack diddly squat. Suddenly Brey starts coaching defense and rebounding? A pipe dream.
ultimately, I don’t think we’re really that much in disagreement though. One good year doesn’t excuse the previous 4, and it certainly doesn’t excuse what’s going to come after next year.
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Originally posted by notredomer23 View Post
Not saying they haven’t improved is disingenuous and you know it. In 2019-2020 the first half Nate was a liability. Dane could do all the hard stuff but not the easy things like defend and make a layup. Hubb is still a turnover machine but obviously has loads of talent. Of course there was going to be a regression this year, they lost an All-ACC player. If you don’t think the core of Hubb, Goodwin, Wertz, Nate, Ryan, and then replacing Durham with a guy who averaged 18 and 7 a year ago and was the Ivy League player of the year isn’t going to be a pretty big improvement from this year you’re letting your negative opinions of Brey cloud the reality of what is going to happen.
ultimately, I don’t think we’re really that much in disagreement though. One good year doesn’t excuse the previous 4, and it certainly doesn’t excuse what’s going to come after next year.
The biggest disconnect here may be Atkinson vs Durham. How will Atkinson's Ivy league #'s convert to the ACC? He'll rebound better (not a major feat) but will he be able to score inside? Brey thinks so but Brey always overrates his players. Durham could score and block shots. I doubt if Atkinson will be any better overall than Durham was. We'll see. I haven't seen one minute of Atkinson's play.
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Originally posted by notredomer23 View Post
Not saying they haven’t improved is disingenuous and you know it. In 2019-2020 the first half Nate was a liability. Dane could do all the hard stuff but not the easy things like defend and make a layup. Hubb is still a turnover machine but obviously has loads of talent. Of course there was going to be a regression this year, they lost an All-ACC player. If you don’t think the core of Hubb, Goodwin, Wertz, Nate, Ryan, and then replacing Durham with a guy who averaged 18 and 7 a year ago and was the Ivy League player of the year isn’t going to be a pretty big improvement from this year you’re letting your negative opinions of Brey cloud the reality of what is going to happen.
ultimately, I don’t think we’re really that much in disagreement though. One good year doesn’t excuse the previous 4, and it certainly doesn’t excuse what’s going to come after next year.
Have they improved enough to be competitive in the last three years? No
They would have to make an astronomical improvement over the offseason to be a force next year. And nothing over the last three years gives me May confidence that they will.Love Thee Notre Dame!
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Trying to link the JR Konieczny dunk he tweeted out the other night.
Last edited by clashmore_mike; 04-03-2021, 09:10 AM."Fvck Michigan" - The World
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Originally posted by stpeteirish View PostBrey told 247 sports yesterday he is looking for a "defensive" coach. Bout time Mike.
Step in the right direction tho. Scott martin apparently goes back to Video Guy or whatever he was before they had to can Ayers;.
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