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  • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
    It's only a joke because they don't give a crap about unity. The party is still looking to drive the boot on the neck on the losing side.
    There's one party that doesn't give a crap abut America or unity, and that's the Trump Party. Unapologetically lying about a stolen election for months and while trying to steal it himself with bogus court cases and asking Pence to violate the Constitution. Refusing to concede. Refusing to meet with Biden. Refusing to allow the transition to proceed normally. Melania Trump will be the only first lady in decades not to meet with Jill Biden and give her a tour of the residence.

    Spewing bile and hate and lies for 4+ years, and refusing to lose with a shred of dignity. That's Trump's legacy. He got banned from Twitter and election misinformation went down by three quarters... the only thing he was good at was propaganda.

    After four years of fake allegations, hysteria, nasty rhetoric, and resistance at all costs- the calls for unity are laughable. He didn't run on a unity platform and wouldn't know it if it bit him in the ass.

    I'm sure the media that is rejoicing in their upcoming four-year vacation will do what they can to paint it as unity.
    He absolutely ran on a platform of bringing the country together. In fact, unity and healing was the central message of his campaign. He got repeatedly attacked during the primary for being a centrist and too far to the right... only to have a bunch of mouth breathers on Fox News and OAN to call him a "socialist" despite there being literally no socialism in his economic policy platform. A bunch of QAnon freaks who think that Democrats are literal Satan worshipping pedophiles and other sheep make up the 30% of the country that still approves of Trump. Everyone else sees the corruption and utter mess he is leaving for Biden, and that Biden is earnestly trying to bring people together.
    Last edited by IrishLax; 01-19-2021, 11:24 AM. Reason: typo

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    • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
      There's one party that doesn't give a crap abut America or unity, and that's the Trump Party. Unapologetically lying about a stolen election for months and while trying to steal it himself with bogus court cases and asking Pence to violate the Constitution. Refusing to concede. Refusing to meet with Biden. Refusing to allow the transition to proceed normally. Melania Trump will be the only first lady in decades not to meet with Jill Biden and give her a tour of the residence.

      Spewing bile and hate and lies for 4+ years, and refusing to lose with a shred of dignity. That's Trump's legacy. He got banned from Twitter and election misinformation went down by three quarters... the only thing he was good at was propaganda.



      He absolutely ran on a platform of bringing the country together. In fact, unity and healing was the central message of his campaign. He got repeatedly attacked during the primary for being a centrist and too far to the right... only to have a bunch of mouth breathers on Fox News and OAN to call him a "socialist" despite there being literally no socialism in his economic policy platform. A bunch of QAnon freaks who think that Democrats are literal Satan worshipping pedophiles and other sheep make up the 30% of the country that still approves of Trump. Everyone else sees the corruption and utter mess he is leaving for Biden, and that Biden is earnestly trying to bring people together.
      He didn't run a unity campaign, he ran the most progressive campaign in modern history and doesn't speak outside of his divisive rhetoric. Even after the stupid Capitol riots, he defaulted to divisiveness. His agenda is far from the mainstream while he pandered to the truly radical wing of the party that wanted ultra-left.

      We're four years removed from an attempted hijacking of the electoral college. I'm glad the Obama's took a break from spying on the campaign and undermining the incoming administration with Logan Act accusations to offer a tour.

      Biden will spend zero hours trying to get out of Trump's stupid wars and trying to recover the economy. His panic appears to be how to shutdown pipelines, toss more money overseas in the name of climate change, and how to get more relief out after his party held it hostage until the ballots were counted.

      It's that leftist elitist attitude that is driving your party and big tech to suppress dissenting voices and try to shove everyone who disagrees "mouthbreathers" off every normal platform in this country and an agenda of divisive ideas that will ensure unity doesn't happen. However, I fully expect everyone who doesn't embrace this administration to be labeled a white supremacist for not falling in line before long.

      Now we will expect a unifying tone from a party that did this shit for four years:
      Running the damn ball since 2017.

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      • I dont think Biden is really going to do any substantive uniting, I don't think it'll be his fault. I'm sure he'd love to be the guy who fixed a country that is breaking apart, but it takes much more than one guy to do that.
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        • Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
          I dont think Biden is really going to do any substantive uniting, I don't think it'll be his fault. I'm sure he'd love to be the guy who fixed a country that is breaking apart, but it takes much more than one guy to do that.
          I don't think it's possible to unify the country. Well, it is, but it won't happen. We can't agree to anything and have different values and goals. The country doesn't want the same thing. Our government is entirely too powerful and too large. It's a winner take all system and the Dems are letting everyone know right now that they won and are going to ram it down our throats soon.

          America needs a divorce. America loves divorce. We do it all the time.We celebrate it in the tabloids and practice it routinely. States should be able to have greater control over how people live in their states and take back control from the federal government. Then we could move where we want and live under a similar but different set of laws and principles. For example, I moved in 2019 because I needed to find a new job as my old location shut down. I only considered red states because I didn't want a D governor restricting my 2A rights and overtaxing me. Looking at the population trends of NY, IL, and CA- I don't think I am alone in this thinking.

          I think it's long past time that this country either return power to the states or go it's separate ways. The power swamp in DC isn't going to give it back, so we need to just do it. These elections shouldn't be so important to how we live. When CalExit was discussed four years ago- I supported it. Texas Secession? Go for it. I see Wyoming legislators discussing it now? I could live in Wyoming for sure!

          Our people are drifting further and further apart and it just feels like we're waiting for the kids to leave for college. We're delaying the inevitable with sanctuary states and the pendulum of power. Give people who think Trump is literally Hitler a path to the Republic of California and let those of us who don't want Joe Biden's failures dumped on us a ticket to Wyoming or Texas.
          Running the damn ball since 2017.

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          • Biden could bring up some prior bills that came out of committee with bipartisan support on issues that were blocked from a vote - immigration, health care protection for those with chronic diseases, etc - as well as some immediate issue ones like the recent domestic terrorism one. That would probably swiftly move through Congress after the insurrection.
            https://www.cbo.gov/publication/56613

            I don't think Biden will govern with Executive Orders that get around legislation, block testimony by his Admin officials before Congress, fire Inspector Generals, move appropriations from one department to another, declare emergencies, shutdown the government, have the Justice Department join states' lawsuits, or have his properties/businesses benefit from federal expenditures.

            How he gets Russia back to the nuclear disarmament treaty, Iran back to their nuclear deal or gets a Pacific trade agreement without China will be difficult. I doubt he steps into North Korea or looks on Kim as a good friend.

            I am looking forward to a President who smiles and isn't drawing attention to himself all the time.

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            • Originally posted by Legacy View Post


              I don't think Biden will govern with Executive Orders that get around legislation, block testimony by his Admin officials before Congress, fire Inspector Generals, move appropriations from one department to another, declare emergencies, shutdown the government, have the Justice Department join states' lawsuits, or have his properties/businesses benefit from federal expenditures.
              So he's going to not do anything that recent presidents have done extensively, including the guy he served as VP for?

              Yeah sorry, I'm just not buying that.
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              • Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                I am looking forward to a President who smiles and isn't drawing attention to himself all the time.
                Look, we can agree! Of course, I'm looking for one of those in 2024, but close enough!
                Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
                  Looks like he's coming out with guns blazing. Curious to see how the stock market responds with all of that spending he's going to do.
                  My Cannabis stocks will double and triple up in the next 2 years. So that's good news.
                  Last edited by arahop; 01-19-2021, 01:39 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by arahop View Post
                    My Cannabis stocks will double and triple up in the next 2 years. So that's good news.
                    Yep, all my US ETF's have been doing incredibly well since election day.

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                    • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                      I don't think it's possible to unify the country. Well, it is, but it won't happen. We can't agree to anything and have different values and goals. The country doesn't want the same thing. Our government is entirely too powerful and too large. It's a winner take all system and the Dems are letting everyone know right now that they won and are going to ram it down our throats soon.

                      America needs a divorce. America loves divorce. We do it all the time.We celebrate it in the tabloids and practice it routinely. States should be able to have greater control over how people live in their states and take back control from the federal government. Then we could move where we want and live under a similar but different set of laws and principles. For example, I moved in 2019 because I needed to find a new job as my old location shut down. I only considered red states because I didn't want a D governor restricting my 2A rights and overtaxing me. Looking at the population trends of NY, IL, and CA- I don't think I am alone in this thinking.

                      I think it's long past time that this country either return power to the states or go it's separate ways. The power swamp in DC isn't going to give it back, so we need to just do it. These elections shouldn't be so important to how we live. When CalExit was discussed four years ago- I supported it. Texas Secession? Go for it. I see Wyoming legislators discussing it now? I could live in Wyoming for sure!

                      Our people are drifting further and further apart and it just feels like we're waiting for the kids to leave for college. We're delaying the inevitable with sanctuary states and the pendulum of power. Give people who think Trump is literally Hitler a path to the Republic of California and let those of us who don't want Joe Biden's failures dumped on us a ticket to Wyoming or Texas.
                      Different but the same. I have a lot of friends/former classmates that swing left. A lot of them are entrenched in the BLM movement as well as other black empowerment groups. I have went down that rabbit hole myself on social media and a lot of these groups are pushing for self governance and "divorcing" the current system. These guys scream white nationalism when they think they see it and call it out but this is essentially black nationalism. I know, totally different but sort of the same in regards to relations and division.

                      EDIT: ADDED link to some of this.
                      https://www.facebook.com/dr.mustafaa...19230455572230
                      Last edited by Blazers46; 01-19-2021, 03:13 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                        Different but the same. I have a lot of friends/former classmates that swing left. A lot of them are entrenched in the BLM movement as well as other black empowerment groups. I have went down that rabbit hole myself on social media and a lot of these groups are pushing for self-governance and "divorcing" the current system. These guys scream white nationalism when they think they see it and call it out but this is essentially black nationalism. I know, totally different but sort of the same in regards to relations and division.

                        EDIT: ADDED link to some of this.
                        https://www.facebook.com/dr.mustafaa...19230455572230
                        It is 100% impossible for people like me and people like this to be happy in the same system. Why are we forcing this?
                        Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                        • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                          Different but the same. I have a lot of friends/former classmates that swing left. A lot of them are entrenched in the BLM movement as well as other black empowerment groups. I have went down that rabbit hole myself on social media and a lot of these groups are pushing for self governance and "divorcing" the current system. These guys scream white nationalism when they think they see it and call it out but this is essentially black nationalism. I know, totally different but sort of the same in regards to relations and division.

                          EDIT: ADDED link to some of this.
                          https://www.facebook.com/dr.mustafaa...19230455572230
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                          • It's time to lower the bar for real data and establish new goals that we can make up as we go.

                            "Biden’s economic policy team signaled that it will be the first administration ever to construct economic policy around issues like race, gender equality and climate change, rather than around traditional indicators like GDP or deficit ratios”
                            https://www.axios.com/biden-administ...54fe1e17b.html
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                            • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
                              <a href="https://imgflip.com/i/4ufpp2"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/4ufpp2.jpg" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a><div><a href="https://imgflip.com/memegenerator">from Imgflip Meme Generator</a></div>
                              I guess I don't get what you are trying to say with the meme? I get the meme itself, but I am lost in your responding with it.

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                              • Originally posted by arahop View Post
                                My Cannabis stocks will double and triple up in the next 2 years. So that's good news.
                                They've been doing well for a while.

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                                • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                  I guess I don't get what you are trying to say with the meme? I get the meme itself, but I am lost in your responding with it.
                                  It's an overly simplified and dishonest rebuttal to mock those who criticized the terror and destruction in our cities for the past several months as they could only do so because they must be racist.

                                  I would like to understand where these brave people fall on the meme test?

                                  Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                  • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                    I guess I don't get what you are trying to say with the meme? I get the meme itself, but I am lost in your responding with it.
                                    Because your post had a reference to Black Supremacy (?).

                                    The larger point is that often excuses or justifications are made for the MAGA folk that they are "forgotten people, suffer from economic anxiety, and misunderstood". Which is pretty true and I agree they should have a much larger voice and targeted help.

                                    It's just that when it comes to people of colour the same types of tropes are trotted out "What about black on black crime? Where are the fathers? They just don't want to be successful, why are they always looking for handouts? They're equal under the law so what more could they want?"

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                                    • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
                                      Because your post had a reference to Black Supremacy (?).

                                      The larger point is that often excuses or justifications are made for the MAGA folk that they are "forgotten people, suffer from economic anxiety, and misunderstood". Which is pretty true and I agree they should have a much larger voice and targeted help.

                                      It's just that when it comes to people of colour the same types of tropes are trotted out "What about black on black crime? Where are the fathers? They just don't want to be successful, why are they always looking for handouts? They're equal under the law so what more could they want?"
                                      What else would you call it?

                                      na·tion·al·ism
                                      /ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm/
                                      Learn to pronounce
                                      noun
                                      - identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
                                      - advocacy of or support for the political independence of a particular nation or people.
                                      "Scottish nationalism"


                                      You can call it whatever you want.

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                                      • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                                        It is 100% impossible for people like me and people like this to be happy in the same system. Why are we forcing this?
                                        But you wouldn't attend a rally at the Capitol or a state capitol with a good chance of violence from those carrying weapons. The "Lock and Load" group.

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                                        • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                          What else would you call it?

                                          na·tion·al·ism
                                          /ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm/
                                          Learn to pronounce
                                          noun
                                          - identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
                                          - advocacy of or support for the political independence of a particular nation or people.
                                          "Scottish nationalism"


                                          You can call it whatever you want.
                                          National Socialism ....

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                                          • You can't make this stuff up.

                                            Trump promoted N.M. official’s comment that ‘the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.’ Now the man is arrested in the Capitol riot. (WaPo)

                                            From a Newsweek article:
                                            "I am going to leave either tonight or tomorrow. I've got a .357 Henry big boy rifle . . . that I got in the trunk of my car, and I've got a .357 single action revolver... that I will have underneath the front seat on my right side. And I will embrace my Second Amendment, I will keep my right to bear arms," he said, according to the affidavit for his arrest.
                                            Announcing this on Facebook, a video on the Capitol balcony at the insurrection and at a County Commission Board meeting and not expecting any recourse or that he will be arrested?

                                            Says he is more concerned about losing his freedom than anything else? Guess what.

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                                            • Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                                              I don't think Biden will govern with Executive Orders that get around legislation, block testimony by his Admin officials before Congress, fire Inspector Generals, move appropriations from one department to another, declare emergencies, shutdown the government, have the Justice Department join states' lawsuits, or have his properties/businesses benefit from federal expenditures.
                                              He's starting his presidency like he will.

                                              From CNN.com
                                              After he is sworn in today as the 46th President of the United States, Joe Biden is expected to sign a slate of executive actions in the Oval Office, fulfilling a campaign promise to act on a wide range of issues on day one.

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                                              • Originally posted by Legacy View Post
                                                But you wouldn't attend a rally at the Capitol or a state capitol with a good chance of violence from those carrying weapons. The "Lock and Load" group.
                                                I've never threatened violence or ran around like a moron at the Capitol. I've spent time at the Capitols, but typically in a tie and left my rifles at home. I've found that building relationships and being nice goes a lot further than screaming and demanding.
                                                Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                                • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
                                                  He's starting his presidency like he will.

                                                  From CNN.com

                                                  I guess twitter will be no use anymore if we want updates on what's going on at the White House.

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                                                  • I appreciate the responses from ND, I#1, arahop and drayer. Certainly the EOs are have become regular actions for Prezs "on Day 1". I was just referring to the those actions as comprised of the Unitary Executive theory and its perceived limits. Correct me if I am wrong that it goes back to Korematsu. We move forward as drayer says "I've found that building relationships and being nice goes a lot further than screaming and demanding."

                                                    Cheers, guys!
                                                    Last edited by Legacy; 01-20-2021, 11:28 AM.

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                                                    • Biden gives DOJ green light to resume Obama-era 'slush fund' payouts to liberal groups

                                                      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...liberal-groups

                                                      President-elect Joe Biden is calling for the Justice Department to look into reinstating a controversial Obama-era practice that allowed prosecutors to make settlement agreements that resulted in defendants paying outside groups instead of victims or the government.

                                                      The Trump administration had put an end to these payments following a 2017 memo from then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions which was reflected in the Justice Department's manual.
                                                      And yes, it is Fox. The rest of the journo world is having a big ole Toobin zoom call today over their excitement and love for Joe Biden.
                                                      Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                                      • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                                                        I don't think it's possible to unify the country. Well, it is, but it won't happen. We can't agree to anything and have different values and goals. The country doesn't want the same thing. Our government is entirely too powerful and too large. It's a winner take all system and the Dems are letting everyone know right now that they won and are going to ram it down our throats soon.

                                                        America needs a divorce. America loves divorce. We do it all the time.We celebrate it in the tabloids and practice it routinely. States should be able to have greater control over how people live in their states and take back control from the federal government. Then we could move where we want and live under a similar but different set of laws and principles. For example, I moved in 2019 because I needed to find a new job as my old location shut down. I only considered red states because I didn't want a D governor restricting my 2A rights and overtaxing me. Looking at the population trends of NY, IL, and CA- I don't think I am alone in this thinking.

                                                        I think it's long past time that this country either return power to the states or go it's separate ways. The power swamp in DC isn't going to give it back, so we need to just do it. These elections shouldn't be so important to how we live. When CalExit was discussed four years ago- I supported it. Texas Secession? Go for it. I see Wyoming legislators discussing it now? I could live in Wyoming for sure!

                                                        Our people are drifting further and further apart and it just feels like we're waiting for the kids to leave for college. We're delaying the inevitable with sanctuary states and the pendulum of power. Give people who think Trump is literally Hitler a path to the Republic of California and let those of us who don't want Joe Biden's failures dumped on us a ticket to Wyoming or Texas.
                                                        Somewhere in China, a CCP official is jacking off to your post.

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                                                        • How pissed do you guys think RDU and Drayer are listening to this speech dedicated to unity, treating people with respect (even if they disagree with you), finding common ground, etc.

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                                                          • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                            How pissed do you guys think RDU and Drayer are listening to this speech dedicated to unity, treating people with respect (even if they disagree with you), finding common ground, etc.
                                                            "If we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him"
                                                            - Joe Biden

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                                                            • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                              How pissed do you guys think RDU and Drayer are listening to this speech dedicated to unity, treating people with respect (even if they disagree with you), finding common ground, etc.
                                                              Also.... "How pissed do you think people I disagree with are listening to this speech dedicated to unity, treating people with respect (even if they disagree with you), finding common ground, etc.

                                                              - Irish Lax (from the party of unity and respect)

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                                                              • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                How pissed do you guys think RDU and Drayer are listening to this speech dedicated to unity, treating people with respect (even if they disagree with you), finding common ground, etc.
                                                                Been on WebEx since 9. I am not wasting my time with his lip service. The man is a pathological liar, just like the one before him. Which President hasn't called for unity? His actions will continue to drive the wedge as none of these dems actually give a hoot about unity. The problem is that Biden and his folks are more interested in driving their boot on the neck of the 74 million Americans they view as domestic terrorists or that you think are mouth breathers.

                                                                Originally posted by Meatloaf View Post
                                                                Somewhere in China, a CCP official is jacking off to your post.
                                                                Or they are going as a plus one to the inauguration festivities with the Democratic House member they are dating. Chinese state media tweeted good riddance to Trump this morning because they wanted Joe Biden and are probably wiring money to Hunter by now.

                                                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good Riddance, Donald Trump! <a href="https://t.co/kYNQ0jTCfH">https://t.co/kYNQ0jTCfH</a> <a href="https://t.co/UoDm8RIT6V">pic.twitter.com/UoDm8RIT6V</a></p>&mdash; China Xinhua News (@XHNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1351801624906252299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

                                                                Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                                                Also.... "How pissed do you think people I disagree with are listening to this speech dedicated to unity, treating people with respect (even if they disagree with you), finding common ground, etc.

                                                                - Irish Lax (from the party of unity and respect)
                                                                Again, not one Democrat actually gives one shit about unity. They've cried and screamed for four years with lies and hysteria to do anything they could to stop Trump. This board was a 'walls are closing in on Trump' Lib Anon thread for about 2 years because they hated Trump and now they hate anyone who didn't want to vote him out. Nothing is going to get better. Things will get worse. Probably worse than we can currently imagine.
                                                                Last edited by drayer54; 01-20-2021, 01:41 PM. Reason: Added the tweet of Chinese media supporting the big guy
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                                                                • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                  How pissed do you guys think RDU and Drayer are listening to this speech dedicated to unity, treating people with respect (even if they disagree with you), finding common ground, etc.
                                                                  RDU is still compiling the mountains of election fraud that he promised to provide.

                                                                  Can you reach out to BobbyOk1, I thought the Kraken was supposed to be released.

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                                                                  • Guys -- I'm watching CNN and I think the country is good now.

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                                                                    • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                                                      Also.... "How pissed do you think people I disagree with are listening to this speech dedicated to unity, treating people with respect (even if they disagree with you), finding common ground, etc.

                                                                      - Irish Lax (from the party of unity and respect)
                                                                      Nah, I specifically named the two people who have made multiple posts attacking the idea of unity.

                                                                      Good effort, tho.

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                                                                      • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                                                                        I don't think it's possible to unify the country. Well, it is, but it won't happen. We can't agree to anything and have different values and goals. The country doesn't want the same thing. Our government is entirely too powerful and too large. It's a winner take all system and the Dems are letting everyone know right now that they won and are going to ram it down our throats soon.

                                                                        America needs a divorce. America loves divorce. We do it all the time.We celebrate it in the tabloids and practice it routinely. States should be able to have greater control over how people live in their states and take back control from the federal government. Then we could move where we want and live under a similar but different set of laws and principles. For example, I moved in 2019 because I needed to find a new job as my old location shut down. I only considered red states because I didn't want a D governor restricting my 2A rights and overtaxing me. Looking at the population trends of NY, IL, and CA- I don't think I am alone in this thinking.

                                                                        I think it's long past time that this country either return power to the states or go it's separate ways. The power swamp in DC isn't going to give it back, so we need to just do it. These elections shouldn't be so important to how we live. When CalExit was discussed four years ago- I supported it. Texas Secession? Go for it. I see Wyoming legislators discussing it now? I could live in Wyoming for sure!

                                                                        Our people are drifting further and further apart and it just feels like we're waiting for the kids to leave for college. We're delaying the inevitable with sanctuary states and the pendulum of power. Give people who think Trump is literally Hitler a path to the Republic of California and let those of us who don't want Joe Biden's failures dumped on us a ticket to Wyoming or Texas.
                                                                        I lol'd.

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                                                                        • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                          Nah, I specifically named the two people who have made multiple posts attacking the idea of unity.

                                                                          Good effort, tho.
                                                                          I'm not attacking the idea of unity- I'm pointing out that it isn't going to happen and that the hypocrites calling for it are insincere. Unity would be nice, but I don't see a scenario that gets us there. People hell-bent on revenge and suppressing the opposition taking a break to gesture unity doesn't excite me much.

                                                                          Nice try though.
                                                                          Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                                                          • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                                                                            I'm not attacking the idea of unity- I'm pointing out that it isn't going to happen and that the hypocrites calling for it are insincere. Unity would be nice, but I don't see a scenario that gets us there. People hell-bent on revenge and suppressing the opposition taking a break to gesture unity doesn't excite me much.

                                                                            Nice try though.
                                                                            The amount of projection you're doing in this thread is astounding, even by auth-right standards.

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                                                                            • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                                                                              Been on WebEx since 9. I am not wasting my time with his lip service. The man is a pathological liar, just like the one before him. Which President hasn't called for unity? His actions will continue to drive the wedge as none of these dems actually give a hoot about unity. The problem is that Biden and his folks are more interested in driving their boot on the neck of the 74 million Americans they view as domestic terrorists or that you think are mouth breathers.
                                                                              Which actions are you referring to? Since becoming President he has:
                                                                              1. Said a prayer for the 400k that have died to COVID.
                                                                              2. Thanked Mike Pence.
                                                                              3. Is on his way to Arlington National Cemetery for a memorial with past Presidents... except Trump, who refused to concede or attend the inauguration.

                                                                              Etc. Etc. Etc.

                                                                              Biden's reputation in the Senate was for earnestly working across the aisle to pass bipartisan legislation, and he's been criticized by his own party for working too much with Republicans.

                                                                              Not a single action he has taken has been to attack, disparage, or insult people on the "red team." Unlike his predecessor, who made a habit out of juvenile nicknames for opponents inside and outside his own party.

                                                                              And btw, one side passing policy that Republicans don't like or Democrats isn't "anti-unity"... that's normal governmental function. What's anti-unity disparagement and vitriol towards the other side. Wake me up when Biden calls someone a "skank" or "crazy" or "dumbo" or a "monster."

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                                                                              • Unity will not happen in this country any time soon. The only thing remotely unifying is Biden's words. His actual policy platform is not unifying, his colleagues on both sides of the aisle in the Senate and House have no interest in unifying, and the media apparatus for both parties is incentivized by a lack of unity. It's a pessimistic way of looking to the future, but it is what it is.

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                                                                                • Originally posted by Meatloaf View Post
                                                                                  The amount of projection you're doing in this thread is astounding, even by auth-right standards.
                                                                                  LOL'd at auth-right.

                                                                                  Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                                  Which actions are you referring to? Since becoming President he has:
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                                                                                  And btw, one side passing policy that Republicans don't like or Democrats isn't "anti-unity"... that's normal governmental function. What's anti-unity disparagement and vitriol towards the other side. Wake me up when Biden calls someone a "skank" or "crazy" or "dumbo" or a "monster."
                                                                                  I'm glad you feel unified by empty words and the excitement to get rid of the boogeyman. Meanwhile, he hasn't even united his own party that is still calling the opposition a cult of domestic terrorists, fortifying DC, actively seeking to deplatform and suppress dissenting views, and his legislative leadership that wants to put everything on the table. I suspect those asked to leave their jobs or posts in DC because they are NRA members, known republicans, Parler users, or flagged as right-wing are feeling the same unity that you are. Maybe the Mayor of DC requesting machine guns is just an outlier?

                                                                                  Journalists fainting over Kamala's clothing and dreaming of Joe's arms extending over DC to hug us or whatever the hell CNN said may add a perception that the unity is happening, but I think you are confusing your own giddiness for unity. And yes, driving divisive policies and trampling on people's liberty doesn't do much for unity- even if some of those who want a revolution are cheering for it.

                                                                                  I'll add that unity wouldn't be easy in this environment as the interests are driving us in very different directions with different values and priorities. In the end, I hope that Biden just resumes what he knows best- drone striking middle east families and enriching those around him without causing too much damage. 52 years of public service with one accomplishment (defeating Trump from the basement) would be the best we can hope for right now.

                                                                                  I hope he just offers lip service to the radicals in his party and throws them a bone or two with EO's and the sanity of Joe Manchin saves us all from the will of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.
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                                                                                  Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                                                                  • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                                                                                    I'm not attacking the idea of unity- I'm pointing out that it isn't going to happen and that the hypocrites calling for it are insincere. Unity would be nice, but I don't see a scenario that gets us there. People hell-bent on revenge and suppressing the opposition taking a break to gesture unity doesn't excite me much.

                                                                                    Nice try though.
                                                                                    Except you literally posted this lie yesterday:
                                                                                    He didn't run a unity campaign, he ran the most progressive campaign in modern history and doesn't speak outside of his divisive rhetoric. Even after the stupid Capitol riots, he defaulted to divisiveness. His agenda is far from the mainstream while he pandered to the truly radical wing of the party that wanted ultra-left.
                                                                                    You're not entitled to alternative facts. Biden was literally the most centrist contender running for the Democratic nomination. Period. And he routinely campaigned on unity, which you can easily Google.

                                                                                    Left wing sources called him a "closet Republican" and criticized how much he works with Republicans:
                                                                                    For Republicans, Joe Biden has long been the ideal negotiating partner — because he’s so willing to cave in on most anything Republicans want.
                                                                                    After the Capitol riots he said this:<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our way is plain: It is the way of democracy — of lawfulness, and of respect — respect for each other, and for our nation.</p>&mdash; Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1346938341791387651?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                                                                    There is nothing "divisive" about that.

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                                                                                    • In the spirit of unity and beginning anew, Josh Hawley can still go fuck himself.
                                                                                      It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                                      • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                                                                                        I'm not attacking the idea of unity- I'm pointing out that it isn't going to happen and that the hypocrites calling for it are insincere. Unity would be nice, but I don't see a scenario that gets us there. People hell-bent on revenge and suppressing the opposition taking a break to gesture unity doesn't excite me much.

                                                                                        Nice try though.
                                                                                        I hear a lot of of big time trumpers are fleeing to Florida. Check zillow and see Mar-A Largo and see what's on the market.
                                                                                        trump is probably the head of the HOA.

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                                                                                        • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post

                                                                                          Not a single action he has taken has been to attack, disparage, or insult people on the "red team." Unlike his predecessor, who made a habit out of juvenile nicknames for opponents inside and outside his own party.

                                                                                          What's anti-unity disparagement and vitriol towards the other side. Wake me up when Biden calls someone a "skank" or "crazy" or "dumbo" or a "monster."
                                                                                          "Look, Fat."

                                                                                          "You're a lying dog faced pony soldier."

                                                                                          He'll never get to a Trumpian level of insulting or name-calling. But...I can't let you sleep when he has done precisely the sort of thing you seem to imply is beneath him.

                                                                                          I wasn't able to catch the festivities, had a job interview today so cross your fingers for the sake of unity fellas.
                                                                                          Based Mullet Kid owns

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                                                                                          • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                                            Nah, I specifically named the two people who have made multiple posts attacking the idea of unity.

                                                                                            Good effort, tho.
                                                                                            So to promote unity you single them out and chastise? Or you are not promoting unity and just want to poke the bear to argue some more? I am confused... but not really.

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                                                                                            • Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
                                                                                              "Look, Fat."

                                                                                              "You're a lying dog faced pony soldier."

                                                                                              He'll never get to a Trumpian level of insulting or name-calling. But...I can't let you sleep when he has done precisely the sort of thing you seem to imply is beneath him.
                                                                                              True, and he was also mean to Trump calling him the "worst president ever." I'm not saying he will perpetually be stuck in "aww shucks" mode where he's a soft blanket or won't ever go on offense when he thinks it is warranted, I'm saying he has a very long history of working across the aisle and I think the odds are strongly against him attacking conservatives (at-large) or elected officials on anything other than policy. I do not think you will see him call Ted Cruz's wife ugly or try to demonize people. I think you will see very measured rhetoric.

                                                                                              If he moves off that point an unfairly attacks/demeans people during his term I'll be the first to criticize him.

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                                                                                              • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                                                                                So to promote unity you single them out and chastise? Or you are not promoting unity and just want to poke the bear to argue some more? I am confused... but not really.
                                                                                                I'm not sure what is complicated here. There are two people on this site who have made multiple posts which the expressed idea that Joe Biden isn't and hasn't been for uniting the country. So then when Biden was giving a speech dedicated almost entirely to the concept of unity and bringing America together, which completely undermines this premise, and I made a tongue-in-cheek post to that effect.

                                                                                                Pretending it's something more than that is just annoying and lazy. You're trying to extrapolate me ribbing drayer and RDU to ===> Joe Biden is anti-unity. That's literally the leap you made with your first quote, and all that deserves is a giant eye roll.

                                                                                                BTW, I like both drayer and RDU. I've posted as much on here multiple times. They bring a different perspective. It's also OK to give people shit on a message board and be exposed to different views. If you want to hand ring over that then bless your heart.

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                                                                                                • I don't think I've watched any inauguration speech live since Kennedy's. Whether it was Biden, Pence, Mayor Pete, HRC, etc., I would have expected the same speech from whomever was taking oath and would be shocked if they didn't talk about uniting or bringing the country together in some fashion. Bottom line, it's all fluff to make everyone feel good, because it's a celebration ceremony.

                                                                                                  I have no idea how this is going to turn out, but it should be interesting.

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                                                                                                  • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
                                                                                                    I don't think I've watched any inauguration speech live since Kennedy's. Whether it was Biden, Pence, Mayor Pete, HRC, etc., I would have expected the same speech from whomever was taking oath and would be shocked if they didn't talk about uniting or bringing the country together in some fashion. Bottom line, it's all fluff to make everyone feel good, because it's a celebration ceremony.

                                                                                                    I have no idea how this is going to turn out, but it should be interesting.
                                                                                                    I listened to Donald's while I was at work and it was boring af.
                                                                                                    Based Mullet Kid owns

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                                                                                                    • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                                                      I'm not sure what is complicated here. There are two people on this site who have made multiple posts which the expressed idea that Joe Biden isn't and hasn't been for uniting the country. So then when Biden was giving a speech dedicated almost entirely to the concept of unity and bringing America together, which completely undermines this premise, and I made a tongue-in-cheek post to that effect.

                                                                                                      Pretending it's something more than that is just annoying and lazy. You're trying to extrapolate me ribbing drayer and RDU to ===> Joe Biden is anti-unity. That's literally the leap you made with your first quote, and all that deserves is a giant eye roll.

                                                                                                      BTW, I like both drayer and RDU. I've posted as much on here multiple times. They bring a different perspective. It's also OK to give people shit on a message board and be exposed to different views. If you want to hand ring over that then bless your heart.
                                                                                                      I would say talking about violence against the sitting president you disagree with is anti-unity... but then again, Biden SAYS hes about unity so I guess we have to believe him because you tell us so.

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