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  • The Georgia thing is unbelievable. With "Steal the Vote", you at least had the pretense of normal people not knowing. I couldn't validate, on my own, if there were any illegal activities that took place, but had to take the word of those who run such events. A rational person would say, "Ok, then prove it". And no one could. With this, holy shit, I can read. I can read Georgia's new law. I can read New York's (which is more restrictive, no water, less early voting, absentee only with excuse, etc). I can see what's in it, and they push the narrative.

    There are some things in it that are kind of wait and see if it works, but on the whole, it should expand voting, and reduce wait times.

    Say what you want about Trump. His bullshit got called out on the daily. But this is scary. Those responsible for holding the government responsible are the ones driving the narrative. I had about an hour conversation with multiple of my Democrat friends who fact checked me in real-time on their phone last night, and they were amazed at what they thought vs what was reality.

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    • Originally posted by Woneone View Post
      The Georgia thing is unbelievable. With "Steal the Vote", you at least had the pretense of normal people not knowing. I couldn't validate, on my own, if there were any illegal activities that took place, but had to take the word of those who run such events. A rational person would say, "Ok, then prove it". And no one could. With this, holy shit, I can read. I can read Georgia's new law. I can read New York's (which is more restrictive, no water, less early voting, absentee only with excuse, etc). I can see what's in it, and they push the narrative.

      There are some things in it that are kind of wait and see if it works, but on the whole, it should expand voting, and reduce wait times.

      Say what you want about Trump. His bullshit got called out on the daily. But this is scary. Those responsible for holding the government responsible are the ones driving the narrative. I had about an hour conversation with multiple of my Democrat friends who fact checked me in real-time on their phone last night, and they were amazed at what they thought vs what was reality.
      This is Biden's big lie that snowballed into something it's completely not and it's hard to the press/promoters to back track at this point and the liberals want to destroy voter ID and diminish election integrity, can't imagine why...

      You can't fly Delta without an ID, You can't buy a gun without an ID. 1 vote for 1 ID makes sense. When you look at the treasonous ideas promoted in HR1, it becomes clear that these people want Venezuelan elections.

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      • Originally posted by NDVirginia19 View Post


        this is the state of our pathetic news media in our country. How can anybody honestly look at this and say “yep this is an appropriate headline for an unbiased truth telling news outlet”. I think Trump is an absolute jackass that did a lot of damage to this country, but he was certainly correct about how absolutely pathetic and useless our mainstream journalists are.
        This is fair and credible to some people on this board who still pretend the media isn't an advocate wing of the DNC.
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        • Joe, you're cracking me up.


          Biden Administration considers building more border wall to finish projects, fill in ‘gaps’
          POSTED ON APRIL 6, 2021


          The Department of Homeland Security is considering reversing course and building more sections of the southern border wall.

          According to a source close to the situation, DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas told employees that he may start building the Southern Border wall again in order to fill in some of the ‘gaps.’

          President Joe Biden stopped the construction of the U.S. Mexico border wall almost immediately after taking office but that move, in addition to his ‘open border’ free healthcare campaign promises has resulted in an overwhelming crisis at the border.

          According to Mayorkas there is some wiggle room in the president’s order which will allow for gaps in the wall to be finished.

          In addition, Mayorkas said that the border patrol chief and the acting commissioner of the CBP have presented him with different projects that need to be finished with the border wall.

          Preliminary numbers show that more than 171,000 illegal migrants were apprehended last month, including nearly 20,000 unaccompanied minors.

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          • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
            Joe, you're cracking me up.


            Biden Administration considers building more border wall to finish projects, fill in ‘gaps’
            POSTED ON APRIL 6, 2021


            The Department of Homeland Security is considering reversing course and building more sections of the southern border wall.

            According to a source close to the situation, DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas told employees that he may start building the Southern Border wall again in order to fill in some of the ‘gaps.’

            President Joe Biden stopped the construction of the U.S. Mexico border wall almost immediately after taking office but that move, in addition to his ‘open border’ free healthcare campaign promises has resulted in an overwhelming crisis at the border.

            According to Mayorkas there is some wiggle room in the president’s order which will allow for gaps in the wall to be finished.

            In addition, Mayorkas said that the border patrol chief and the acting commissioner of the CBP have presented him with different projects that need to be finished with the border wall.

            Preliminary numbers show that more than 171,000 illegal migrants were apprehended last month, including nearly 20,000 unaccompanied minors.
            Mr. Immigration policy himself...
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            • Obviously its not great to see the mess at the border. Feel bad for the kids. But it is very very very fun to see Dems twist and turn.

              "These are literally concentration camps."
              "Build bridges, not walls!"
              ​​​​"the cruelty is the point!"

              Now it's a rather different tune eh
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              • Originally posted by Woneone View Post
                The Georgia thing is unbelievable. With "Steal the Vote", you at least had the pretense of normal people not knowing. I couldn't validate, on my own, if there were any illegal activities that took place, but had to take the word of those who run such events. A rational person would say, "Ok, then prove it". And no one could. With this, holy shit, I can read. I can read Georgia's new law. I can read New York's (which is more restrictive, no water, less early voting, absentee only with excuse, etc). I can see what's in it, and they push the narrative.

                There are some things in it that are kind of wait and see if it works, but on the whole, it should expand voting, and reduce wait times.

                Say what you want about Trump. His bullshit got called out on the daily. But this is scary. Those responsible for holding the government responsible are the ones driving the narrative. I had about an hour conversation with multiple of my Democrat friends who fact checked me in real-time on their phone last night, and they were amazed at what they thought vs what was reality.
                The primary problem with the Georgia law that it empowers a partisan legislative body with the ability to pull crazy stunts on election day (or if they don't like the results of the election). This isn't a "big lie" or "misinformation." The law has language that removes the secretary of state as chair of the State Election Board, allowing the SEB and lawmakers a process to temporarily take over elections offices and limiting the number, location and access to secure absentee drop boxes. You cannot put a massive, unchecked loophole in your election law that enables partisan actors to go rogue and expect people to be OK with that. Especially not after how Raffensberger and Kemp were mercilessly attacked for simply following the law and refusing to throw the election for Trump.

                The secondary objections are mostly over the criminalization of "line warming", the added burdens on absentee voting, and the restrictions on voting hours. Most of this is transparently a tactic to make it even more odious for black people and other urban dwellers to vote. They made it so that there are less early voting hours after work and on weekends, and made it harder to keep polls open late. They coupled this with making it harder to get a ballot that you can fill out at your leisure. The law gives people less time to request a ballot, adds more ways for someone to have their ballot thrown out, and gives people fewer drop boxes for their ballot.

                Basically every right wing talking point about how Georgia's law is fine focuses on Voter ID or contrasting it to laws in other states. They tried to play the game where they said "Colorado is more restrictive!" when in reality it's a 100% vote by mail state where elections run secure and smooth. They tried to say "look at New York!" without realizing that many Democrat pundits have long criticized all kinds of stuff about New York's terrible election processes.

                I'm uncomfortable with how corporations are throwing their weight around, and I think there should be 100% universal voter ID requirements. But like....... can we all stop bullshitting for a second? You don't add the State Election Board provisions that they did unless you're trying to put yourself in a position where the next time Trump or an equivalent asks you to "find eleven thousand votes" you have the power to go do that.

                Anyways, anyone who wants to read the actual language of the law and not what is filtered by either side you can do so here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...oting-law.html with a breakdown of specific provisions and which pages you can find them on here: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/u...annotated.html
                Last edited by IrishLax; 04-07-2021, 11:59 AM.

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                • Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
                  Obviously its not great to see the mess at the border. Feel bad for the kids. But it is very very very fun to see Dems twist and turn.

                  "These are literally concentration camps."
                  "Build bridges, not walls!"
                  ​​​​"the cruelty is the point!"

                  Now it's a rather different tune eh
                  If you’re a fan of hypocrisy, 2021 has delivered quite nicely.
                  Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                  • Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
                    Obviously its not great to see the mess at the border. Feel bad for the kids. But it is very very very fun to see Dems twist and turn.

                    "These are literally concentration camps."
                    "Build bridges, not walls!"
                    ​​​​"the cruelty is the point!"

                    Now it's a rather different tune eh
                    No, it’s business as usual. Democrats and Republicans are both inept parties that use their constituents for ill purposes more often than not.

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                    • Originally posted by ND88 View Post

                      No, it’s business as usual. Democrats and Republicans are both inept parties that use their constituents for ill purposes more often than not.
                      That's true and I think most everyone that posts in here feels the same way. Dakota's point is all of the outrage that came from the Dems on these specific things while Trump was in office and now it's crickets for the same actions.

                      I'm getting pretty concerned about Biden and what he's trying to do to our paychecks. The second bump in relief payments and all of the extras in that bill need to be paid for. Now he has this massive infrastructure proposal that is going to be one of the largest spending sprees ever if it gets passed. He's already lowered who's going to get taxed and you can be sure it will get lowered again.

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                      • This administration is making a run for the worst in our country's history and the data will be there to show it more than ever before.

                        If anyone on the right has the right skills to highlight these failures, they'll destroy them in 2024. But I don't trust the right to get it right.

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                        • Originally posted by IrishRazor82 View Post
                          This administration is making a run for the worst in our country's history and the data will be there to show it more than ever before.

                          If anyone on the right has the right skills to highlight these failures, they'll destroy them in 2024. But I don't trust the right to get it right.
                          Any data in particular to be keeping an eye on?

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                          • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post

                            This is fair and credible to some people on this board who still pretend the media isn't an advocate wing of the DNC.
                            I jumped on CNN.com. Hadn't checked it out in a few weeks. No mention of immigration or Biden's infrastructure plan on the first page, but there's an article defending Jill Biden's attire. lol

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                            • Originally posted by Armyirish47 View Post

                              Any data in particular to be keeping an eye on?
                              There's loads of it that should be being tracked. Border immigration, border incidents, crime related to border immigrants, national debt (25% of debt since 1776 occurred in last 12 months...), crime (up big in Democratic cities but news won't touch it), etc. It's all over but republicans to have a chance need to outline it, track it, and show how terrible the left's moves are.

                              Right is so bad at this.

                              On the flip side, how awesome Rep run states are doing in spite of covid for both unemployment, covid numbers, and overall well being of their citizens (which has to be way better than NY, CA, Oregon, etc., but you have to find a good way to measure).

                              Democratic policies are terrible in modern USA, but until the Right gets better at pointing that out, they will get bulldozed by smears, misleads, and lies.

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                              • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post

                                I jumped on CNN.com. Hadn't checked it out in a few weeks. No mention of immigration or Biden's infrastructure plan on the first page, but there's an article defending Jill Biden's attire. lol
                                I jumped on... Gun control... George Floyd... South Carolina Shooting... The South Carloina shooting sounds horrific. 5 and 9 year killed along with their grandparents. Suspect hasnt been identified for those curious.

                                https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/08/us/yo...ing/index.html

                                EDIT***Gunman was a former NFL player Phillip Adams

                                https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/de...CKU44NVTSZAAM/

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                                • Originally posted by IrishRazor82 View Post

                                  There's loads of it that should be being tracked. Border immigration, border incidents, crime related to border immigrants, national debt (25% of debt since 1776 occurred in last 12 months...), crime (up big in Democratic cities but news won't touch it), etc. It's all over but republicans to have a chance need to outline it, track it, and show how terrible the left's moves are.

                                  Right is so bad at this.

                                  On the flip side, how awesome Rep run states are doing in spite of covid for both unemployment, covid numbers, and overall well being of their citizens (which has to be way better than NY, CA, Oregon, etc., but you have to find a good way to measure).

                                  Democratic policies are terrible in modern USA, but until the Right gets better at pointing that out, they will get bulldozed by smears, misleads, and lies.
                                  I think it was PolishLeppy who wanted to track economic numbers as well, would be an interesting project for someone to revisit every year or so.

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                                  • Originally posted by IrishRazor82 View Post
                                    This administration is making a run for the worst in our country's history and the data will be there to show it more than ever before.

                                    If anyone on the right has the right skills to highlight these failures, they'll destroy them in 2024. But I don't trust the right to get it right.
                                    It is amusing that both sides of the political aisle are convinced their side has it right but is also supremely confident their guys will find a way to screw it up lol.

                                    I'll never forgive the American public for giving Barack a second term.... Romney was created in a lab to be the President.
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                                    • Not only did we get Joe Biden dismissing our fundamental liberties and slashing them with a pen like a dictator today in a lie-filled ceremony, but we also learned today that the Hunter laptop is now 100% certainly his. This means the hack intelligence leaders who dismissed it as Russian Disinformation are all partisan liars and should never be cited again. It means that the questions over Biden’s role in Hunter’s operations should absolutely be investigated. It also means the power triangle of big tech- left-wing media- and social media that blocked relevant information before the election should be held accountable.

                                      All relevant and entertaining:

                                      EXCLUSIVE: What WASN'T in Hunter Biden's book: How he got unauthorized Secret Service protection, begged Joe to run for WH to salvage his own reputation and made porn films with prostitutes. Forensic experts prove laptop IS President's son's
                                      • Hunter Biden released his 'tell-all' memoir Beautiful Things on Tuesday, but left out shocking details
                                      • DailyMail.com can reveal those secrets after contents of his abandoned laptop - including a cache of 103,000 text messages, 154,000 emails, more than 2,000 photos - were verified by top forensics experts
                                      • Hunter left his MacBook Pro laptop at a Wilmington, Delaware computer repair shop in April 2019 and never returned for it
                                      • In texts from 2019, Hunter begged his father to run for president to salvage Hunter's own reputation
                                      • Hunter repeatedly dodged police action against him, despite constantly dealing with drug dealers and prostitutes and having multiple run-ins with the law
                                      • The president's son was guarded by a Secret Service agent while on a 2018 drug and prostitute binge in Hollywood, despite not being entitled to protection at the time
                                      • Hunter appeared to be obsessed with making porn films with prostitutes, videos and photos on his laptop show
                                      • Texts also show Joe Biden was afraid his conversations with Hunter were being hacked even as they discussed his White House bid
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                                      • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
                                        Not only did we get Joe Biden dismissing our fundamental liberties and slashing them with a pen like a dictator today in a lie-filled ceremony, but we also learned today that the Hunter laptop is now 100% certainly his. This means the hack intelligence leaders who dismissed it as Russian Disinformation are all partisan liars and should never be cited again. It means that the questions over Biden’s role in Hunter’s operations should absolutely be investigated. It also means the power triangle of big tech- left-wing media- and social media that blocked relevant information before the election should be held accountable.

                                        All relevant and entertaining:

                                        EXCLUSIVE: What WASN'T in Hunter Biden's book: How he got unauthorized Secret Service protection, begged Joe to run for WH to salvage his own reputation and made porn films with prostitutes. Forensic experts prove laptop IS President's son's
                                        • Hunter Biden released his 'tell-all' memoir Beautiful Things on Tuesday, but left out shocking details
                                        • DailyMail.com can reveal those secrets after contents of his abandoned laptop - including a cache of 103,000 text messages, 154,000 emails, more than 2,000 photos - were verified by top forensics experts
                                        • Hunter left his MacBook Pro laptop at a Wilmington, Delaware computer repair shop in April 2019 and never returned for it
                                        • In texts from 2019, Hunter begged his father to run for president to salvage Hunter's own reputation
                                        • Hunter repeatedly dodged police action against him, despite constantly dealing with drug dealers and prostitutes and having multiple run-ins with the law
                                        • The president's son was guarded by a Secret Service agent while on a 2018 drug and prostitute binge in Hollywood, despite not being entitled to protection at the time
                                        • Hunter appeared to be obsessed with making porn films with prostitutes, videos and photos on his laptop show
                                        • Texts also show Joe Biden was afraid his conversations with Hunter were being hacked even as they discussed his White House bid
                                        Yeeesh, you guys really dodged a bullet not electing Hunter Biden. Would have been something to have a president who bangs porn stars, and abuses drugs. Ah, misusing secret service agents, that's also a big no-no! I wonder if Hunter would have made them piss in a bush? Guess we'll never know.

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                                        • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post

                                          Yeeesh, you guys really dodged a bullet not electing Hunter Biden. Would have been something to have a president who bangs porn stars, and abuses drugs. Ah, misusing secret service agents, that's also a big no-no! I wonder if Hunter would have made them piss in a bush? Guess we'll never know.
                                          The three stooges from the last admin were hammered continually for their unethical bs and/or for just being annoying af. This Hunter Biden sh*t is just oppositional politics. You did it to us, so now we do it to you. When it comes to morals, politicians from both parties act like Jesus has them on speed-dial, and it becomes easy war-tactics to sling mud about sins that are as old as time: greed and lust. The more sensational the better. Old ladies sipping on tea feeling important about Suzy’s fall from grace.

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                                          • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post

                                            Yeeesh, you guys really dodged a bullet not electing Hunter Biden. Would have been something to have a president who bangs porn stars, and abuses drugs. Ah, misusing secret service agents, that's also a big no-no! I wonder if Hunter would have made them piss in a bush? Guess we'll never know.
                                            Any logical and reasonable person would assume Hunters Dad (President of the United States) had something to do with his drug addicted son's business dealings and positions obtained. I'll put cocaine addict and homemade sex video expert on my resume any day if it got me the same access Hunter had. Any logical person would assume any Dad, who allegedly talks to his son on a reguar basis, would talk to their son about getting a new job paying millions of dollars. When my Dad calls me one of the first things he asks is how work is. But according to the Bidens, work never comes up. What do they talk about? Cocaine? Sex? Biden called it Russian disinformation during the campaign.... Hunter admits now it "could" be his Laptop. Classic deny/deflect/ignorance.

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                                            • Originally posted by ND88 View Post

                                              The three stooges from the last admin were hammered continually for their unethical bs and/or for just being annoying af. This Hunter Biden sh*t is just oppositional politics. You did it to us, so now we do it to you. When it comes to morals, politicians from both parties act like Jesus has them on speed-dial, and it becomes easy war-tactics to sling mud about sins that are as old as time: greed and lust. The more sensational the better. Old ladies sipping on tea feeling important about Suzy’s fall from grace.
                                              It's a thing of beauty. So many "results guys" have become "feelings guys".

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                                              • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post

                                                Any logical and reasonable person would assume Hunters Dad (President of the United States) had something to do with his drug addicted son's business dealings and positions obtained. I'll put cocaine addict and homemade sex video expert on my resume any day if it got me the same access Hunter had. Any logical person would assume any Dad, who allegedly talks to his son on a reguar basis, would talk to their son about getting a new job paying millions of dollars. When my Dad calls me one of the first things he asks is how work is. But according to the Bidens, work never comes up. What do they talk about? Cocaine? Sex? Biden called it Russian disinformation during the campaign.... Hunter admits now it "could" be his Laptop. Classic deny/deflect/ignorance.
                                                The big headline from this story was that they authenticated and confirmed it was indeed his laptop. The significance obviously being that big tech/social media/news erroneously censored the story for partisan gain, the intel leaders proved to be full of it, the secret service protection Hunter received should be investigated in parallel with the gun crime, and the business connections that enriched the Biden family that appear in the emails should also be further investigated.
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                                                • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post

                                                  Yeeesh, you guys really dodged a bullet not electing Hunter Biden. Would have been something to have a president who bangs porn stars, and abuses drugs. Ah, misusing secret service agents, that's also a big no-no! I wonder if Hunter would have made them piss in a bush? Guess we'll never know.
                                                  I get it. But there is a substantial difference between Trump and Biden when it comes to family.

                                                  Donald was elected, for better or worse, with America knowing every detail of his life for the past 30+ years. His family had money. He had money. He was an international celebrity. Barack Obama apparently wrote a paper about him being the endgame of American success.

                                                  Donald benefited from that...and had to deal with the negative parts of that as well. But at the end of the day, that's the cost of doing business right?

                                                  Joe Biden has a 50+ year old child that is an objectively....GOP or DNC....disgusting human being. For all the shit the Trump kids get...and the silly (possibly true) rumors we heard about Baron Trump, Hunter is basically proven to be everything bad anyone has ever said about anyone in the Trump family.

                                                  Biden is a broken human being. Dude wouldn't know what a gun is if it shot him at this point. Its sad.

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                                                  • Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post

                                                    I get it. But there is a substantial difference between Trump and Biden when it comes to family.

                                                    Donald was elected, for better or worse, with America knowing every detail of his life for the past 30+ years. His family had money. He had money. He was an international celebrity. Barack Obama apparently wrote a paper about him being the endgame of American success.

                                                    Donald benefited from that...and had to deal with the negative parts of that as well. But at the end of the day, that's the cost of doing business right?

                                                    Joe Biden has a 50+ year old child that is an objectively....GOP or DNC....disgusting human being. For all the shit the Trump kids get...and the silly (possibly true) rumors we heard about Baron Trump, Hunter is basically proven to be everything bad anyone has ever said about anyone in the Trump family.

                                                    Biden is a broken human being. Dude wouldn't know what a gun is if it shot him at this point. Its sad.
                                                    Not sure what consequences Donald, has ever faced? It's neither here nor there I guess, as the system benefits rich guys. So barring anything Georgia/DC/SDNY can find he's scot free of anything.

                                                    Oh 100%, Hunter Biden should be excommunicated. Just trash.

                                                    However, you can't tell me with a straight face that it isn't snowing constantly on 5th avenue for Jr. The Barron stuff is weird, the kid is 15 years old. At least for the Don's sake there aren't pictures of Jr with a crack pipe hanging out of his mouth

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                                                    • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post

                                                      Not sure what consequences Donald, has ever faced? It's neither here nor there I guess, as the system benefits rich guys. So barring anything Georgia/DC/SDNY can find he's scot free of anything.

                                                      Oh 100%, Hunter Biden should be excommunicated. Just trash.

                                                      However, you can't tell me with a straight face that it isn't snowing constantly on 5th avenue for Jr. The Barron stuff is weird, the kid is 15 years old. At least for the Don's sake there aren't pictures of Jr with a crack pipe hanging out of his mouth
                                                      I dont know what The Don has ever dealt with. But he's facing shit...literally...because he ran for President...beat Hillary...and was an asshole.

                                                      He lived in Manhattan/Queens his whole life. the AG of NY (not SDNY) did not give a shit until he beat that dumb broad who couldn't pass the Bar Exam.

                                                      It would be very easy to convince me he broke laws,, particularly tax stuff. Dude is literally facing legal consequences for one reason, and one reason alone.

                                                      There is exactly zero people who can look you in the eye and tell you honestly Donald Trump is in legal trouble for any reason outside of him becoming president.

                                                      We'll see what ends up happening with all of this nonsense. But Donald is facing trouble because he ran for/ became POTUS and nobody other than Jesus Christ could convince me otherwise.
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                                                      • Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post

                                                        I dont know what The Don has ever dealt with. But he's facing shit...literally...because he ran for President...beat Hillary...and was an asshole.

                                                        He lived in Manhattan/Queens his whole life. the AG of NY (not SDNY) did not give a shit until he beat that dumb broad who couldn't pass the Bar Exam.

                                                        It would be very easy to convince me he broke laws,, particularly tax stuff. Dude is literally facing legal consequences for one reason, and one reason alone.

                                                        There is exactly zero people who can look you in the eye and tell you honestly Donald Trump is in legal trouble for any reason outside of him becoming president.

                                                        We'll see what ends up happening with all of this nonsense. But Donald is facing trouble because he ran for/ became POTUS and nobody other than Jesus Christ could convince me otherwise.
                                                        People forget Trump was very well liked before his feud with Obama. Even with the feud with Obama, even with Trump U, even with his many known affairs, even with his reputation as a business man he was loved by many. He becomes President and all of a sudden he’s Hitler reincarnated and everyone hates him and is a Russian operative.

                                                        Democrats cry about Republicans following Trump no matter what... when most of them once followed Trump no matter what... until he became inconvenient to their politics.


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                                                        • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post

                                                          People forget Trump was very well liked before his feud with Obama. Even with the feud with Obama, even with Trump U, even with his many known affairs, even with his reputation as a business man he was loved by many. He becomes President and all of a sudden he’s Hitler reincarnated and everyone hates him and is a Russian operative.

                                                          Democrats cry about Republicans following Trump no matter what... when most of them once followed Trump no matter what... until he became inconvenient to their politics.

                                                          There’s a chunk that is die hard to Trump, but there’s also a big chunk that was angry at Trump for how he handled some things and are more than ready to move on. I for one, am beyond ready to move on and cringe a little when I see the Trump 24’ stuff. I do think it’s hard to discuss him fairly because he was hounded so hard by the press and fake allegations while his team had some real accomplishments.
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                                                          • Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post

                                                            I dont know what The Don has ever dealt with. But he's facing shit...literally...because he ran for President...beat Hillary...and was an asshole.

                                                            He lived in Manhattan/Queens his whole life. the AG of NY (not SDNY) did not give a shit until he beat that dumb broad who couldn't pass the Bar Exam.

                                                            It would be very easy to convince me he broke laws,, particularly tax stuff. Dude is literally facing legal consequences for one reason, and one reason alone.

                                                            There is exactly zero people who can look you in the eye and tell you honestly Donald Trump is in legal trouble for any reason outside of him becoming president.

                                                            We'll see what ends up happening with all of this nonsense. But Donald is facing trouble because he ran for/ became POTUS and nobody other than Jesus Christ could convince me otherwise.
                                                            Hardly any comparable for his legal issues right now, you have the Jean Carroll stuff which doesn't look good for him, the tax issues, and then any insurrection fallout. Tough to convince me that the decision to run for public office caused any of this (except his role in the Big Lie/Insurrection as that wouldn't have happened if he wasn't the president who lead it). He was a public figure, you don't get to do shady dealings and then expect to get off scot free. Look ol'Joe's tax returns, the man has never hired a good accountant, wonder if that mess is on purpose or he's too cheap to hire a good one.

                                                            Lot's of people with a similar risk profile to the Donald have faced consequences for their actions - regarding Don's 25+ accusations we saw Epstein/Weinstein for example, we also see rich dudes get caught for the tax stuff all the time, and the insurrection who knows?

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                                                            • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post

                                                              Hardly any comparable for his legal issues right now, you have the Jean Carroll stuff which doesn't look good for him, the tax issues, and then any insurrection fallout. Tough to convince me that the decision to run for public office caused any of this (except his role in the Big Lie/Insurrection as that wouldn't have happened if he wasn't the president who lead it). He was a public figure, you don't get to do shady dealings and then expect to get off scot free. Look ol'Joe's tax returns, the man has never hired a good accountant, wonder if that mess is on purpose or he's too cheap to hire a good one.

                                                              Lot's of people with a similar risk profile to the Donald have faced consequences for their actions - regarding Don's 25+ accusations we saw Epstein/Weinstein for example, we also see rich dudes get caught for the tax stuff all the time, and the insurrection who knows?
                                                              1. That lady watched an episode of SVU and copied the story. She also said "rape is sexy", among other bizarre statements, and all but propositioned Anderson Cooper live on television.

                                                              2. I'm not sure what Epstein or Weinstein have to do with tax problems. There is a large difference between being #MeToo'd having a state... where you've lived in the public eye for nearly your entire life... going after you, conveniently around the time you broke the city by beating their Queen in an election.

                                                              New York State isn't some bastion of justice and defending women. Look at their last 3 AG's lol. Quite the track record there.

                                                              3. Ahhh yes, the "insurrection." Wild how 3 months later and the only official homicide for this event was an unarmed Trump superman. Honestly, what those folks did was bad, even disgusting, but calling that an "insurrection" is offensive to those who actually have carried one out. I'm supposed to believe this was a violent takeover of the United States government when 3 months later, D.C. still doesn't even know what killed the cop?

                                                              Calling it the Big Lie is about 10x more appropriate than calling that an insurrection. But that has nothing to do with his legal problems either.

                                                              TLDR - one of the most famous men in the world faces legal problems in his home state AFTER he runs for President for the opposition party.

                                                              Again, Only Jesus could convince me it wasn't a political decision.
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                                                              • Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post

                                                                1. That lady watched an episode of SVU and copied the story. She also said "rape is sexy", among other bizarre statements, and all but propositioned Anderson Cooper live on television.

                                                                2. I'm not sure what Epstein or Weinstein have to do with tax problems. There is a large difference between being #MeToo'd having a state... where you've lived in the public eye for nearly your entire life... going after you, conveniently around the time you broke the city by beating their Queen in an election.

                                                                New York State isn't some bastion of justice and defending women. Look at their last 3 AG's lol. Quite the track record there.

                                                                3. Ahhh yes, the "insurrection." Wild how 3 months later and the only official homicide for this event was an unarmed Trump superman. Honestly, what those folks did was bad, even disgusting, but calling that an "insurrection" is offensive to those who actually have carried one out. I'm supposed to believe this was a violent takeover of the United States government when 3 months later, D.C. still doesn't even know what killed the cop?

                                                                Calling it the Big Lie is about 10x more appropriate than calling that an insurrection. But that has nothing to do with his legal problems either.

                                                                TLDR - one of the most famous men in the world faces legal problems in his home state AFTER he runs for President for the opposition party.

                                                                Again, Only Jesus could convince me it wasn't a political decision.
                                                                1. If it was nothingburger I'm sure Donny will let the DNA evidence into trial, no? Wouldn't that clear him if it wasn't his on her dress.

                                                                2. They have nothing to do with tax issues, that was in reference to Donald have 25+ sexual assault allegations, and numerous numerous former models saying he would go into the change rooms while they were changing (some as young as 14). You and I both know this isn't the first time the opposing party went after someone from the opposite party, of course he hasn't been charged with anything so this could all be for nothing.

                                                                3. lol we're going to have to agree to disagree here

                                                                This line of thinking "Oops AG is from the opposing party, can't prosecute!" doesn't jive with me.

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                                                                • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post

                                                                  1. If it was nothingburger I'm sure Donny will let the DNA evidence into trial, no? Wouldn't that clear him if it wasn't his on her dress.

                                                                  2. They have nothing to do with tax issues, that was in reference to Donald have 25+ sexual assault allegations, and numerous numerous former models saying he would go into the change rooms while they were changing (some as young as 14). You and I both know this isn't the first time the opposing party went after someone from the opposite party, of course he hasn't been charged with anything so this could all be for nothing.

                                                                  3. lol we're going to have to agree to disagree here

                                                                  This line of thinking "Oops AG is from the opposing party, can't prosecute!" doesn't jive with me.
                                                                  He has lawyers to figure all that out. I'm sure there is some strategy and other stuff that goes into it. I've seen the lady on TV. She's a loon lmao.

                                                                  As for the other ladies, I don't know much about any of them. I'm focused exclusively on New York's nonsense

                                                                  Its not that you can't prosecute someone from the other party. Nobody is above the law, etc. But this is a goofy deal.

                                                                  We got a famous man whose fame for most of his life was related to his lifestyle. Mac Miller's Donald Trump song pretty well encapsulates the Don's place in American culture. Don lives in Deep Blue America. Don hangs out with liberal politicians. He runs for President as the complete antithesis to everything these politicians represent. Donald is no longer in their good graces. Donald then has New York State come after him.

                                                                  That smells bad. I'd love to ask the NY folks, what changed? Why didn't they go after him years ago? Were they unaware of his behavior until he ran for POTUS?
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                                                                  • A lot of "But Trumps" in this thread...

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                                                                    • Can we talk about how dumb Matt Gaetz is? Paying for hookers on Venmo with setting set to public? Reminds me of a scene from The Wire where Stringer Bell catches his flunkies taking minutes on a meeting of the city's drug dealers and goes off on them...

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                                                                      • Originally posted by PerthDomer View Post
                                                                        Can we talk about how dumb Matt Gaetz is? Paying for hookers on Venmo with setting set to public? Reminds me of a scene from The Wire where Stringer Bell catches his flunkies taking minutes on a meeting of the city's drug dealers and goes off on them...
                                                                        Probably should hold off until something of Biden needs to be defended since this is a Biden thread. Maybe start a Gaetz thread.

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                                                                        • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                                                          A lot of "But Trumps" in this thread...
                                                                          Yes, we know.

                                                                          A lot of repeated posts of “a lot of “But Trumps”” in this thread.

                                                                          Politics is comparative. In discussing the current president, the last one is used as a recent reference point for praise and/or criticism.

                                                                          As you know, presidents are elected using this tactic as well. They are also praised and/or criticized (and rightfully so) throughout their term(s) based on whether or not they live up to their statements of how they will do better than the last administration.

                                                                          So yes, it is a significant comparative point, especially for understanding bias in terms of how praise and criticism is expressed through party leanings and platforms.

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                                                                          • On the Gaetz thing, the only way he likely avoids jail time is flipping on people like his buddy presumably did to him. Matt Gaetz has a hell of a rolodex. That has a lot of implications for Biden (easier to get stuff done if the Freedom Caucus/fox/mar a lago world are fielding lawsuits).

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                                                                            • Originally posted by ND88 View Post

                                                                              Yes, we know.

                                                                              A lot of repeated posts of “a lot of “But Trumps”” in this thread.

                                                                              Politics is comparative. In discussing the current president, the last one is used as a recent reference point for praise and/or criticism.

                                                                              As you know, presidents are elected using this tactic as well. They are also praised and/or criticized (and rightfully so) throughout their term(s) based on whether or not they live up to their statements of how they will do better than the last administration.

                                                                              So yes, it is a significant comparative point, especially for understanding bias in terms of how praise and criticism is expressed through party leanings and platforms.
                                                                              It's ironic the pearl clutching over "wahhhh but Trump", even though anyone who looked at the Trump thread will see it's full of "but Obama! Clinton!".

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                                                                              • Originally posted by PerthDomer View Post
                                                                                On the Gaetz thing, the only way he likely avoids jail time is flipping on people like his buddy presumably did to him. Matt Gaetz has a hell of a rolodex. That has a lot of implications for Biden (easier to get stuff done if the Freedom Caucus/fox/mar a lago world are fielding lawsuits).
                                                                                Might want to hold your horses lol.
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                                                                                • Originally posted by PerthDomer View Post
                                                                                  Can we talk about how dumb Matt Gaetz is? Paying for hookers on Venmo with setting set to public? Reminds me of a scene from The Wire where Stringer Bell catches his flunkies taking minutes on a meeting of the city's drug dealers and goes off on them...
                                                                                  Reminds me of Jussie Smollett paying the “maga dudes” with a check.
                                                                                  Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                                                                  • Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post

                                                                                    Probably should hold off until something of Biden needs to be defended since this is a Biden thread. Maybe start a Gaetz thread.
                                                                                    May as well lump in Cuomo
                                                                                    Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                                                                    • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post

                                                                                      Reminds me of Jussie Smollett paying the “maga dudes” with a check.
                                                                                      Lolol still can't believe that happened
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                                                                                      • Originally posted by PerthDomer View Post
                                                                                        Can we talk about how dumb Matt Gaetz is? Paying for hookers on Venmo with setting set to public? Reminds me of a scene from The Wire where Stringer Bell catches his flunkies taking minutes on a meeting of the city's drug dealers and goes off on them...

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                                                                                        • Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post

                                                                                          It's a thing of beauty. So many "results guys" have become "feelings guys".
                                                                                          And so many "feelings guys" have become "results guys". It's almost like there is a pattern....

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                                                                                          • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post

                                                                                            YES THANK YOU.

                                                                                            The GOP btw is better off if some of Gaetz's ilk in congress/Florida go away. They don't help win elections and they're not interested in governing.

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                                                                                            • Originally posted by PerthDomer View Post

                                                                                              YES THANK YOU.

                                                                                              The GOP btw is better off if some of Gaetz's ilk in congress/Florida go away. They don't help win elections and they're not interested in governing.
                                                                                              I’m still not sure where the controversy is with Gaetz. Every GOP type is in agreement he should be held accountable. Progressives have been screaming and deflecting to defend Hunter for 2 years, horrified the public might noticing how the Biden family used Joe's position to get filthy rich. If Gaetz broke the law, get him. Dems can't say the same about the Bidens.

                                                                                              Hows Cuomo’s impeachment and CNN coverage coming?
                                                                                              Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                                                                              • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post

                                                                                                I’m still not sure where the controversy is with Gaetz. Every GOP type is in agreement he should be held accountable. Progressives have been screaming and deflecting to defend Hunter for 2 years, horrified the public might noticing how the Biden family used Joe's position to get filthy rich. If Gaetz broke the law, get him. Dems can't say the same about the Bidens.

                                                                                                Hows Cuomo’s impeachment and CNN coverage coming?
                                                                                                Cuomo has been neutered and the accusations need to be verified for impeachment to happen. The issue the elected dems have is he still has a political base, similar to the Trump impeachments.

                                                                                                Hunter Biden is not a public official.

                                                                                                Gaetz is a politics as entertainment not governing dude. He's a cancer to politics in general and the Republican party in general. He seems to have actually taken part in sex trafficking. That's not propositioning your intern. That's a federal crime. Hell, Barr started the investigation.

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                                                                                                • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post

                                                                                                  I’m still not sure where the controversy is with Gaetz. Every GOP type is in agreement he should be held accountable. Progressives have been screaming and deflecting to defend Hunter for 2 years, horrified the public might noticing how the Biden family used Joe's position to get filthy rich. If Gaetz broke the law, get him. Dems can't say the same about the Bidens.

                                                                                                  Hows Cuomo’s impeachment and CNN coverage coming?
                                                                                                  Progressives do not give a shit about Hunter Biden lmao. Progressives hate him and crime bill Joe. Apparently anyone left of Brian Kemp is now a progressive lolol

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                                                                                                  • Originally posted by PerthDomer View Post

                                                                                                    Cuomo has been neutered and the accusations need to be verified for impeachment to happen. The issue the elected dems have is he still has a political base, similar to the Trump impeachments.

                                                                                                    Hunter Biden is not a public official.

                                                                                                    Gaetz is a politics as entertainment not governing dude. He's a cancer to politics in general and the Republican party in general. He seems to have actually taken part in sex trafficking. That's not propositioning your intern. That's a federal crime. Hell, Barr started the investigation.
                                                                                                    Cuomo is still in office.

                                                                                                    Hunter Biden has committed a firearm crime in cooperation or at least coordination with the secret service, which apparently was questionably providing security on taxpayer dime and he has clearly made a large sum of money off his relationship with his father and the laptop provided sufficient evidence that his father may have financially benefitted as well. You know, the big
                                                                                                    guy!
                                                                                                    Running the damn ball since 2017.

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                                                                                                    • Originally posted by drayer54 View Post

                                                                                                      Cuomo is still in office.

                                                                                                      Hunter Biden has committed a firearm crime in cooperation or at least coordination with the secret service, which apparently was questionably providing security on taxpayer dime and he has clearly made a large sum of money off his relationship with his father and the laptop provided sufficient evidence that his father may have financially benefitted as well. You know, the big
                                                                                                      guy!
                                                                                                      Famous peoples' kids make money because of who their parents are. Donald launched an empire due to who his dad was. The Trump kids are rich in large part because of who their dad is, nothing to say about the money they got. That's not illegal, and it's not really something you can help.

                                                                                                      Joe Biden was actually remarkably cash poor prior to the end of his vice presidency (Obama offered a loan when Beau got sick because Biden was going to mortgage his house). It doesn't make sense to me that a career grifter would be that average financially. If Joe were implicated in Bidengate Barr would have brought the hammer on him. He didn't, so I'm pretty skeptical of fox/oan/ny post etc.

                                                                                                      When the GOP stops running on Dr. Seuss, own the libs, etc. And actually has an idea... we'll all be better off. We need a healthy right and left. The right is sick and needs to get it together. Gaetz, Trump, etc. Going away would be good for this. Signed a pissed off romney/biden voter.

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