The issue the right will have is unless there's a big economic/natural disaster cataclysm the border numbers will go back down below the current surge levels due to the underlying forces driving this. The issue will go away or Biden will claim to have solved it.
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Look, I know most people don't, but the fact is Matt Gaetz just isn't going to do well in prison.
Madison Cawthorn celebrated on Twitter for grant money that his distirct received even though he voted against it.It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
What makes Aaron Rupar an extremist? Looks like he just quote tweet responses to Fox News clips. Isn't the trope that the Left calls people they don't like Nazi’s or Facists or extremists?
Guess I should get out of my bubble more. You know, the one that went nearly forty years without having to worry about mainstream Nazis.It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.
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Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
I agree that the outrage at Obama's cages under Trump was insane and entirely political, but is it really fair to compare the Biden border crisis to the surge seen before? It's different in both size and reason. People weren't showing up in Trump shirts because they thought Trump was going to open the border and give them a handout. We didn't have convention centers and military installations being turned into overcrowded migrant detention centers. I don't see a fair comparison.
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Originally posted by Rogue219 View Post
I generally call a Nazi a Nazi. Frankly, I'm kind of pissed off they went mainstream again. Thought my grandparents took care of all that, but evidently these people were just op eds in Ohio and Michigan waiting to happen in 2017.
Guess I should get out of my bubble more. You know, the one that went nearly forty years without having to worry about mainstream Nazis.
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Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
I agree that the outrage at Obama's cages under Trump was insane and entirely political, but is it really fair to compare the Biden border crisis to the surge seen before? It's different in both size and reason. People weren't showing up in Trump shirts because they thought Trump was going to open the border and give them a handout. We didn't have convention centers and military installations being turned into overcrowded migrant detention centers. I don't see a fair comparison.
It has more to do with knowingly spreading misinformation and consistently circulating fiction as truth.
I don't call people Nazi's unless they are like actual self-identified nazis. Heidi Heitkamp and the left have a much lower threshold. The Fascist thing from the left is hilarious as almost every power structure and influence group in the country is driving their agenda. If you consistently spread false information under false pretexes and that information gets cycled by followers, it's Blue Anon.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
So what makes him an extremist as you previously said?
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Originally posted by drayer54 View PostHis tweets with deliberately misleading information have literally been used as Chinese propaganda. It's not as entertaining as Brian Stelter saying the national mall is an extension of Joe Biden's arms hugging America, but hey- he is a lunatic who prioritizes agenda over facts.
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Originally posted by IrishLax View PostIt's kind of funny that people don't realize that the reason the "border crisis" is being pushed... despite seeing a virtual mirror of what we saw during the 2019 surge under Trump... is that it's basically the only wedge issue test balloon that has worked for the GOP. Their opposition to the American Rescue Plan was extremely unpopular, Biden has tracked around 54% approval since being inaugurated, his approval of handling COVID is sky high, etc. They trotted out a number of talking points about the debt, cancel culture, China, etc. The only that is both driving engagement AND has poor approval numbers for Biden is the border. That's why the same people who didn't have a word to say in 2019 are going through insane theatrics to pretend it's THE most important issue. The truth is that it's basically the status quo and nowhere close to what we saw in the early 00s. And moreover, people expected a big surge this year regardless of who was President because of the depressed crossing numbers in 2020.
All is fair in politics, because as I said on here years ago the "kids in cages" thing was an overblown trope that could be traced back to before Trump even became president. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
Personally, I love to see people claim that the Left is damaging discourse because everyone is a Nazi/Fascist to them.......yet here we are debating whether a reply guy on Twitter is an extremist. Or, that the Left loves to give people offensive labels......yet Blue Anon is this lovely made up term.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
So someone who you believe to be deliberately tweeting misleading information that benefits a foreign government is an extremist? I've got a nice laundry list of "extremists" then for you to consider. I think you'll quickly change your tune on throwing around labels like "extremist".
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Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
Presidents approval rating is typically good the first six months. Debt, china, etc., will eventually make their way up the ladder. Immigration is hot because Joe hasn't done anything about it yet, except put up more tents. He criticized Trump for his policy, but is basically doing the same thing. Glass houses and stones.
They did one big covid spend because the country needed it, fine. Now we're just exploiting it and to some extent, the first packages did that too. The plan seems to focus the most on electric vehicles, charging stations, and the grid. Electric vehicles are already booming and states are already pushing forward aggressively with RPS goals. I guess I'll just sit back and email Joe Manchin some more and hope for his sanity.Running the damn ball since 2017.
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Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
As are pretty much all of the others. It's just a matter of if people decide they want to use it. They need to come up with just a couple of terms that everyone falls into to save us from learning about more groups and what the qualifications are to be included as one. Wait, we have that now, liberals and conservatives.
To respond to your other post, would you then say that Trump is an extremist? He pushed a complete falsehood regarding a stolen election, and it benefited foreign hostile nations. I wouldn't, but the rules that Drayer and yourself would like to follow it would make him one. A world in which a Leftie is explaining the downside of dangerous labels, what a time.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
.....but QAnon is a term a faction of Conservatives called themselves, completely different.
To respond to your other post, would you then say that Trump is an extremist? He pushed a complete falsehood regarding a stolen election, and it benefited foreign hostile nations. I wouldn't, but the rules that Drayer and yourself would like to follow it would make him one. A world in which a Leftie is explaining the downside of dangerous labels, what a time.
Really they are lucky they've been given a pretty mild nickname. Ones that are cringe are like...RepubliQans, democRATS, MAGATs, etc.Based Mullet Kid owns
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Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
BlueAnon is pretty amusing because it fits really well. There is a chunk on the left that are objectively conspiracy theorists. Embracing goofy conspiracy theories like Andrew Cuomo's problems are a republican plot to get Trump a pardon has no basis in reality. These types of people will share articles and blogs claiming that the lady in Florida who got fired in the early covid days was right. This crowd shrieks every time a (republican-governed) state loosens restrictions about how the governor has blood on their hands.
Really they are lucky they've been given a pretty mild nickname. Ones that are cringe are like...RepubliQans, democRATS, MAGATs, etc.
You forgot the GQP lmao another howler.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
.....but QAnon is a term a faction of Conservatives called themselves, completely different.
To respond to your other post, would you then say that Trump is an extremist? He pushed a complete falsehood regarding a stolen election, and it benefited foreign hostile nations. I wouldn't, but the rules that Drayer and yourself would like to follow it would make him one. A world in which a Leftie is explaining the downside of dangerous labels, what a time.
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Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
Overall I wouldn't call him an extremist, but he was certainly extreme in pushing the stolen election story. As far as the rules that Drayer or I am following? Just taking my cue from the left who has been the one promoting "extreme" for a long time. "Police are bad, we must get rid of the police", "Trump (fill in the blank) ", Repubs want to deny you the right to vote", etc.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
.....but again, people that say stuff like that are not extremists. A statement like "the Left have been promoting extreme" insinuates that only people on the Left are taking part in making outlandish claims. That is patently false, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. There are crazies everywhere. I could ramble off shit like "the Left wants to make your son/daughter gay! The left wants to murder everyone's babies!! Joe Biden is a socialist! etc." Those people are not extremists, they are idiots. The excuse of "wellllllllll the other side did this so I'm going to do X" is pretty weak, imagine your coworker who you compete with does a crap job on a project, that doesn't give you carte blanche to do a crap job as well.Running the damn ball since 2017.
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This White House Press Corps is sooooooooo bored now. The Biden's dog taking a shit is a huge deal to these hacks, and they don't ask any questions about COVID.
They're completely lost with the circus. Utterly pathetic.It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.
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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene just introduced a bill that would “reduce Dr. Fauci’s salary to $0 until a new NIAID administrator is confirmed by the Senate.” The NIAID director’s appointment is not subject to Senate confirmation.It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.
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Biden earns ‘Four Pinocchios’ from Washington Post for false claim about Georgia voting law-
The Washington Post Fact Checker knocked President Biden on Tuesday for falsely claiming a new Georgia law "ends voting hours early," giving him its harshest rating of Four Pinocchios for spreading the misinformation.
Biden repeatedly claimed last week a law signed by Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, R., would make it harder for working-class people to vote.
Worse yet, Psaki just used the White House post to spread blatant disinformation and lies that are generating buzz from corporate allies to stir protests and hostility towards Georgia's election law.
She lied on everything- absentee voting, early voting, poll hours, water...just about everything.
These people are an embarrassment to our nation.Running the damn ball since 2017.
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Originally posted by drayer54 View PostBiden earns ‘Four Pinocchios’ from Washington Post for false claim about Georgia voting law-
Worse yet, Psaki just used the White House post to spread blatant disinformation and lies that are generating buzz from corporate allies to stir protests and hostility towards Georgia's election law.
She lied on everything- absentee voting, early voting, poll hours, water...just about everything.
These people are an embarrassment to our nation.
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Originally posted by ND88 View Post
By “these people”, you mean politicians, right? Because if the consensus outrage towards Biden’s administration is that it’s a pack of liars, where is your outrage concerning the last administration?
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Originally posted by ND88 View Post
By “these people”, you mean politicians, right? Because if the consensus outrage towards Biden’s administration is that it’s a pack of liars, where is your outrage concerning the last administration?
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
Don't expect a response. This is typical, he'll say something bananas and then won't respond allowing a smoother talking Trump supporter to respond on his behalf. I still haven't gotten an answer to the thought that the reason why voting takes so long is because "Democrats are trying to illegally vote more than once". Now, it's that he won't want to defend his belief that Aaron Rupar is an extremist. When applying his logic to others, it would mean Donald Trump is an extremist under his rules. It's nonsensical.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
Don't expect a response. This is typical, he'll say something bananas and then won't respond allowing a smoother talking Trump supporter to respond on his behalf. I still haven't gotten an answer to the thought that the reason why voting takes so long is because "Democrats are trying to illegally vote more than once". Now, it's that he won't want to defend his belief that Aaron Rupar is an extremist. When applying his logic to others, it would mean Donald Trump is an extremist under his rules. It's nonsensical.
Bananas?! That's nuts! Trump wasn't my first, second, or third choice years back, but he was when I only had two options. Given the performance of the current administration, I don't regret my vote for him.
Voting takes long because Democrats vote more than once? I don't recall that logic. May have been made in gest. I waited forever to vote in 2020 for the first time. I live in a pretty white burb too for metrics. I have lived and voted in areas where I was a minority and it was much quicker.
Rupar lives to the very far-left and has consistently bizarre takes that require a special world-view that I (and I suspect others) would consider rather extreme. He has deliberately mislead readers for Vox, which is probably accepted there, and like I said, even earned the attention of Urban Dictionary for it. You may find his views more acceptable than I. Doesn't seem like a big thing to me.
The whataboutism with Trump is interesting. Personally, I'd like the GOP to be done with him. He did some things that were good and he also shot himself in the foot on others. He wasn't seeking or taking my advice, so..Running the damn ball since 2017.
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Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
We are in trouble and we resemble a battered womens shelter if we keep justifying "our guy" with "well what about the other guy".
But to address your point about the deflection you seem concerned about, your whole claim about justifying the “our guy” with the “well what about the other guy” was the bumper sticker for the last guy, lol. Follow the rabbit hole. We’ve BEEN in trouble. But hypocrites will play games on both sides until they get what they want.
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Originally posted by ND88 View Post
No. I never said anything to justify the behaviors of the Biden administration. That wasn’t the point of my post. I responded to the embarrassment claim of the previous poster over the lies of the current administration and questioned where was the similar criticism for the last guy. Or does one have to be a Democrat to call out the other party’s lies as well? And vice versa.
But to address your point about the deflection you seem concerned about, your whole claim about justifying the “our guy” with the “well what about the other guy” was the bumper sticker for the last guy, lol. Follow the rabbit hole. We’ve BEEN in trouble. But hypocrites will play games on both sides until they get what they want.
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Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
I usually only dip in here during the workday, sorry for the delayed response!
Bananas?! That's nuts! Trump wasn't my first, second, or third choice years back, but he was when I only had two options. Given the performance of the current administration, I don't regret my vote for him.
Voting takes long because Democrats vote more than once? I don't recall that logic. May have been made in gest. I waited forever to vote in 2020 for the first time. I live in a pretty white burb too for metrics. I have lived and voted in areas where I was a minority and it was much quicker.
Rupar lives to the very far-left and has consistently bizarre takes that require a special world-view that I (and I suspect others) would consider rather extreme. He has deliberately mislead readers for Vox, which is probably accepted there, and like I said, even earned the attention of Urban Dictionary for it. You may find his views more acceptable than I. Doesn't seem like a big thing to me.
The whataboutism with Trump is interesting. Personally, I'd like the GOP to be done with him. He did some things that were good and he also shot himself in the foot on others. He wasn't seeking or taking my advice, so..
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Originally posted by drayer54 View Postat least Trump didn't ruin baseball.
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Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
Baseball Opening Day happened under a Biden Administration and we got the All Star game out of Atlanta where they have the strictest voting rights... making people bring their own water to vote, how dare they.
This will cost money to Atlanta and black businesses and employees there and I fully expect them to move it to a state with similar voting integrity requirements or worse, watch.
(Yes on Rupar- lunatic)Running the damn ball since 2017.
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There are several funny things about moving the all-star game.
1. Its based on a lie. Even Glenn Kessler is busting Biden's balls which is shocking. I didn't see which journo it was but one of them even lit up Jen Psaki on it and she was shell-shocked.
2. Biden said 40 states are passing these laws, so that rules out all but around 10 states that Biden would endorse. Of those 10... do we know how many are more restrictive than GA?
3. Manfred is an idiot. He will end up moving the game to some place with less early voting or some restriction and will get roasted for it. And you better believe some journos are already glancing around at state's election laws of states with baseball teams
4. I'm sure the all-star game brings in some revenue for the state through taxes, but the Atlanta metro is the real loser here. You know... the area in GA that delivered Joe Biden the state of GA. I'm sure the guys with bars and restaurants around the stadium are super pleased right now lol.
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Originally posted by TorontoGold View Post
So is Rupar an extremist, yes or no.
But he's a trash journalist. He rightly gets ridiculed and should be shamed out of the profession.Based Mullet Kid owns
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Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
I wouldn't call him an extremist. I usually save that for terror groups and some politicians, and I guess some political parties (Nazis, Commies, etc.).
But he's a trash journalist. He rightly gets ridiculed and should be shamed out of the profession.“The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.”
― Hyman G. Rickover
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Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
I wouldn't call him an extremist. I usually save that for terror groups and some politicians, and I guess some political parties (Nazis, Commies, etc.).
But he's a trash journalist. He rightly gets ridiculed and should be shamed out of the profession.
....would that not be Cancel Culture TM? Like I get wanting to shame someone out, but that flies COMPLETELY in the face of Conservative beliefs.
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Originally posted by NDVirginia19 View Post
He's not a journalist. He's a political activist who masquerades as a journalist on twitter, and he does a pretty shit job at doing so. He's as grotesquely biased and closed minded as the personalities on Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC that he and his poor excuse for a news publication rag spend every waking moment salivating over.
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Originally posted by NorthDakota View PostThere are several funny things about moving the all-star game.
1. Its based on a lie. Even Glenn Kessler is busting Biden's balls which is shocking. I didn't see which journo it was but one of them even lit up Jen Psaki on it and she was shell-shocked.
2. Biden said 40 states are passing these laws, so that rules out all but around 10 states that Biden would endorse. Of those 10... do we know how many are more restrictive than GA?
3. Manfred is an idiot. He will end up moving the game to some place with less early voting or some restriction and will get roasted for it. And you better believe some journos are already glancing around at state's election laws of states with baseball teams
4. I'm sure the all-star game brings in some revenue for the state through taxes, but the Atlanta metro is the real loser here. You know... the area in GA that delivered Joe Biden the state of GA. I'm sure the guys with bars and restaurants around the stadium are super pleased right now lol.
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Originally posted by NorthDakota View PostThere are several funny things about moving the all-star game.
1. Its based on a lie. Even Glenn Kessler is busting Biden's balls which is shocking. I didn't see which journo it was but one of them even lit up Jen Psaki on it and she was shell-shocked.
2. Biden said 40 states are passing these laws, so that rules out all but around 10 states that Biden would endorse. Of those 10... do we know how many are more restrictive than GA?
3. Manfred is an idiot. He will end up moving the game to some place with less early voting or some restriction and will get roasted for it. And you better believe some journos are already glancing around at state's election laws of states with baseball teams
4. I'm sure the all-star game brings in some revenue for the state through taxes, but the Atlanta metro is the real loser here. You know... the area in GA that delivered Joe Biden the state of GA. I'm sure the guys with bars and restaurants around the stadium are super pleased right now lol.
I hope the Georgia Republicans hold their ground and don’t back down to this nonsense. Kemp is going on any platform that invites him to defend his bill.
The MLB went from four Pinocchio’s to a poor decision.
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Originally posted by drayer54 View Post
Im sure the MLB office is shopping election laws right now and going to realize most of the states are as or more restrictive.
I hope the Georgia Republicans hold their ground and don’t back down to this nonsense. Kemp is going on any platform that invites him to defend his bill.
The MLB went from four Pinocchio’s to a poor decision.
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Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
Fixed your post... lets not pretend left leaning MSM have open minds....“The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.”
― Hyman G. Rickover
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Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
Can someone explain these election laws and why they are so racist and why its such a big story...."Yes, they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!"
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this is the state of our pathetic news media in our country. How can anybody honestly look at this and say “yep this is an appropriate headline for an unbiased truth telling news outlet”. I think Trump is an absolute jackass that did a lot of damage to this country, but he was certainly correct about how absolutely pathetic and useless our mainstream journalists are.“The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.”
― Hyman G. Rickover
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