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    Anyone else following this mess? It's wild.

    Yesterday, it was uncovered that the head of some NAACP chapter in Washington I think wasn't actually black but instead a blonde-haired, blue-eyed white woman with two very white parents pretending to be black. She's also - allegedly - generally full of shit and has over the years invented "racism" that her "black" self has suffered, including going so far as to send herself "hate mail", etc.

    Anyways, today that has evolved into a troll movement of people saying "What's wrong with identifying as black? Why are you shaming someone for identifying as they see themselves? Why can someone born male change to female and that's respected, but this poor girl identifies as black instead of white and get blasted in the media?" And the #WrongSkin is now trending worldwide.

    These are strange times indeed...

    Race of Rachel Dolezal, Spokane NAACP head, questioned - CNN.com

  • #2
    i just looked up pics of her....she had the "How stella got her groove back starter kit"....

    corn rows ---check

    teased her ---check


    Doesnt she look like she was going for the author of how stella got her groove back?? who is African American

    REALITY
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    • #3
      Crazy, but 7/10 would bang.

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      • #4
        lolz

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        • #5
          People are so incredibly dumb.

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          • #6
            It's better than "transabled" people.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Corry View Post
              Crazy, but 7/10 would bang.
              Which version? /noracist

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              • #8
                The Federalist's Mollie Hemingway just published an article titled "NAACP Activist Rachel Dolezal Not Black, Parents Say":

                If there is one thing we’ve learned from the media coverage of the last week, it’s that one’s “identity” is true, regardless of the biological reality. So if a man deeply think-feels himself to be woman, he’s a woman. We even saw that the Washington Post set up an automated tool to shame any Twitter user who referred to Bruce “Caitlyn” Jenner using reality-based pronouns.

                The sports and political correctness network ESPN is not only giving an award (for “courage,” natch) to Jenner, but anyone who notes the absurdity of such a designation (on either sports grounds or courage grounds), is denigrated.

                And political elites have also celebrated the idea that whatever one feels himself to be is something that is so true that every knee must bow to it.

                ...

                So if you’re keeping track at home, the explanations for why Rachel Dolezal is a problem but transgenderism is to be celebrated are:

                1) “Literally f— yourself”
                2) “LOL”

                When you’ve got nothing, you’ve got nothing!
                Her style is off-putting, but I can't disagree with her argument.

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                • #9
                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHAT COLOR IS THE DRESS <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskRachel?src=hash">#AskRachel</a> <a href="http://t.co/6KiWazm1aN">pic.twitter.com/6KiWazm1aN</a></p>&mdash; MeccaZahiya (@pray2mecca) <a href="https://twitter.com/pray2mecca/status/609452940026208259">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                  • #10
                    I think I'm going to apply to business school as a lesbian Hispanic woman.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                      I think I'm going to apply to business school as a lesbian Hispanic woman.

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                      Exactly - my son needs more scholarship money - I now know how he is going to get it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                        I think I'm going to apply to business school as a lesbian Hispanic woman.

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                        this.

                        perhaps we don't know the whole story. could she be a spy for The Man?
                        The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
                        Of the big lake they called Gitche Gumee

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                        • #13
                          At least this story tells me that I'm socially consistent.

                          Girlfriend: "Did you hear about Bruce Jenner?"
                          Me: "No"
                          Girlfriend: "He self-identified as a woman and became one!"
                          Me: "Who cares?"

                          Girlfriend: "Did you hear about Rachael Dolezal?"
                          Me: "No"
                          Girlfriend: "She self-identified as a black person and became one!"
                          Me: "Who cares?"

                          Funnier than you in 2012.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                            I think I'm going to apply to business school as a lesbian Hispanic woman.

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                            Native American, dude. Come on. Gotta go for it all.

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                            • #15
                              Oh wow this hashtag is comedy gold. This guy @GodfreyElfwick is a troll of the highest order. Brilliant, scathing satire. The best part is that his idiot marks think he's serious and they're playing right into it.

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                              • #16
                                This is hilarious. Best comment on r/news:

                                Judging by that spray tan someone took the term "Orange is the new black" too literally
                                F'in DIED laughing at that.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                  I think I'm going to apply to business school as a lesbian Hispanic woman.

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                                  Speaking of liberal pandering, has anyone else noticed that Wells Fargo commercial that has the two white lesbians picking up their deaf Hispanic(?) adopted daughter?

                                  I try not to be cynical about such things but it was like watching a company check every box on a form titled "How to target bleeding-hearts". Really smelled like pandering in its worst form.

                                  Funnier than you in 2012.

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                                  • #18
                                    Race is just a social construct anyway,... amirite...
                                    This sig will not change until The Browns win the Super Bowl... So get real used to it.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by greyhammer90 View Post
                                      Speaking of liberal pandering, has anyone else noticed that Wells Fargo commercial that has the two white lesbians picking up their deaf Hispanic(?) adopted daughter?

                                      I try not to be cynical about such things but it was like watching a company check every box on a form titled "How to target bleeding-hearts". Really smelled like pandering in its worst form.
                                      Agreed.
                                      This sig will not change until The Browns win the Super Bowl... So get real used to it.

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                                      • #20
                                        She should have taken some advice from that drunk Boehner. She would have been a stealth black until the day she died with his tanning tips.


                                        https://vindicatemj.files.wordpress....hn-boehner.jpg

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                                        • #21
                                          There's some great shit on Twitter under the hashtag #AskRachel

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                                          • #22
                                            In all seriousness, can one of our progressive IE brothers succinctly articulate why sex is subject to the whims of delusion but race is not?

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                              In all seriousness, can one of our progressive IE brothers succinctly articulate why sex is subject to the whims of delusion but race is not?

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                                              Because heterosexual whites aren't a protected class and this chick is white?
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                                              This sig will not change until The Browns win the Super Bowl... So get real used to it.

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by NDohio View Post
                                                Exactly - my son needs more scholarship money - I now know how she is going to get it.
                                                FIFY
                                                #TeamKizer

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by Irish YJ View Post
                                                  this.

                                                  perhaps we don't know the whole story. could she be a spy for The Man?
                                                  this.. Probably a white conservative at that.
                                                  I was smarter when I drank...
                                                  I'm always wrong. I'll correct myself If proven so.

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                                                  • #26
                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you: 1) White 2) Black 3) BiRachel <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskRachel?src=hash">#AskRachel</a></p>&mdash; Kimmi (@Kimbo_Slyce) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kimbo_Slyce/status/609430809028767744">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How much sugar goes into Kool-aid A) 1 Teaspoon B) 1 Cup C) 1 Bag D) All of the above <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskRachel?src=hash">#AskRachel</a> <a href="http://t.co/bjS68SQmt7">pic.twitter.com/bjS68SQmt7</a></p>&mdash; Davon A (@davon_a) <a href="https://twitter.com/davon_a/status/609449163151912960">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You take your 14 year old son to the buffet. Kids under 10 eat free. How old is your son? A. 14 B. 10 C. 9 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskRachel?src=hash">#AskRachel</a></p>&mdash; #SeeRed ♨ (@Weird_Minded) <a href="https://twitter.com/Weird_Minded/status/609450932171096064">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mama said: A) there&#39;d be days like this B) knock you out C) take this badge from me D) spray tan yourself &amp; get a tight perm <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskRachel?src=hash">#AskRachel</a></p>&mdash; Jenn Jacques (@JennJacques) <a href="https://twitter.com/JennJacques/status/609431974013497344">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That moment when you see a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskRachel?src=hash">#AskRachel</a> post and you don&#39;t know the answer but you&#39;re black. <a href="http://t.co/qbDlBSNWVi">pic.twitter.com/qbDlBSNWVi</a></p>&mdash; blee (@creole_PHENOM) <a href="https://twitter.com/creole_PHENOM/status/609426462899220480">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskRachel?src=hash">#AskRachel</a> The Jefferson&#39;s moved where? A. On up B. To the Eastside C. To a deluxe apartment in the sky D. All of the above</p>&mdash; DJ SupaSam (@DJSupaSam) <a href="https://twitter.com/DJSupaSam/status/609438751094222848">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What we call this? A. Remote B. Controller C. Moken Troll <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskRachel?src=hash">#AskRachel</a> <a href="http://t.co/nVSuSMAxcT">pic.twitter.com/nVSuSMAxcT</a></p>&mdash; Jeffrey Thompson. (@1Jeff_) <a href="https://twitter.com/1Jeff_/status/609454744348692480">June 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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                                                    • #27
                                                      Should I not know the answer to all of those??
                                                      This sig will not change until The Browns win the Super Bowl... So get real used to it.

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                                                      • #28
                                                        I have also seen many references to Elizabeth Warren being the first transracial.
                                                        Fan since Vagas Ferguson and Jerome Heavens!

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                                                        • #29
                                                          Originally posted by ACamp1900 View Post
                                                          Race is just a social construct anyway,... amirite...
                                                          Actually you are right.

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                                                          • #30
                                                            Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                                            In all seriousness, can one of our progressive IE brothers succinctly articulate why sex is subject to the whims of delusion but race is not?

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                                                            Why do you keep referring to transgender people as "delusional"?

                                                            Anyhow, delusional white dudes made race a big deal a long time ago, so that's why it is now a big deal and yes it is subject to the whims of delusion (usually by those in law enforcement). To

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                                                            • #31
                                                              Yuck!

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                                                              • #32
                                                                Originally posted by Bluto View Post
                                                                Why do you keep referring to transgender people as "delusional"?
                                                                If you are a man and think you are a woman, Jesus Christ, or the Easter bunny, you are delusional.

                                                                ETA: That's not to say that they're not worthy of respect or sympathy. But the correct treatment is psychotherapy, not genital mutilation. And every shred of research backed that up until it became a political issue.

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                                                                • #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Bluto View Post

                                                                  Anyhow, delusional white dudes made race a big deal a long time ago, so that's why it is now a big deal and yes it is subject to the whims of delusion (usually by those in law enforcement). To
                                                                  Classic. Of course its the white man's fault racism exists.

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                                                                  • #34
                                                                    Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                                                    If you are a man and think you are a woman, Jesus Christ, or the Easter bunny, you are delusional.

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                                                                    Agreed.

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                                                                    • #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Bluto View Post
                                                                      Why do you keep referring to transgender people as "delusional"?

                                                                      Anyhow, delusional white dudes made race a big deal a long time ago, so that's why it is now a big deal and yes it is subject to the whims of delusion (usually by those in law enforcement). To
                                                                      It's cute you actually believe that. That's like the #1 lie you read from Social Justice Warriors... that racism is a white construct.

                                                                      Pretty much every civilization in the history of mankind has shown racism when given the opportunity. Asian cultures are incredibly racist, in Africa tribal racism leads to genocide, in biblical times Egyptians practiced racial slavery... and on and on and on. It's rooted in xenophobic and tribal instincts of primates.

                                                                      But yeah, those damn white dudes are the ones who made it a big deal long ago... if it weren't for them, no one on this globe would be a bigot.

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                                                                      • #36
                                                                        Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                                                        I think I'm going to apply to business school as a lesbian Hispanic woman.

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                                                                        ...add your wheelchair and you're in.

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                                                                        • #37
                                                                          Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                          It's cute you actually believe that. That's like the #1 lie you read from Social Justice Warriors... that racism is a white construct.

                                                                          Pretty much every civilization in the history of mankind has shown racism when given the opportunity. Asian cultures are incredibly racist, in Africa tribal racism leads to genocide, in biblical times Egyptians practiced racial slavery... and on and on and on. It's rooted in xenophobic and tribal instincts of primates.

                                                                          But yeah, those damn white dudes are the ones who made it a big deal long ago... if it weren't for them, no one on this globe would be a bigot.
                                                                          He who has the most must have transgressed the most. Their battle cry.

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                                                                          • #38
                                                                            Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                            It's cute you actually believe that. That's like the #1 lie you read from Social Justice Warriors... that racism is a white construct.

                                                                            Pretty much every civilization in the history of mankind has shown racism when given the opportunity. Asian cultures are incredibly racist, in Africa tribal racism leads to genocide, in biblical times Egyptians practiced racial slavery... and on and on and on. It's rooted in xenophobic and tribal instincts of primates.

                                                                            But yeah, those damn white dudes are the ones who made it a big deal long ago... if it weren't for them, no one on this globe would be a bigot.
                                                                            Well, you both are right on different scales, while you are correct that just about every group is biased towards it ingroup and biased against its outgroup (Japan during WWII is a great example of that), in the US the biggest perpetrator of racism would be white people (and probably white males though I haven't seen enough research to state that unequivocally) and no they didn't invent it, but in the U.S. they are more responsible then not for it happening.

                                                                            So basically, I think you are taking his comment out of context, Bluto didn't claim that white people in the US are the only people to ever be rascist, just that they are most likely to do it in a way that we witness on a day to day basis (well at least for those of us living in the US).

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                                                                            • #39
                                                                              Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                                                              In all seriousness, can one of our progressive IE brothers succinctly articulate why sex is subject to the whims of delusion but race is not?

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                                                                              This post and some of your previous ones in other threads show that you have no real interest in listening to the other side. You are hardly starting with an open mind.

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                                                                              • #40
                                                                                Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                                                                If you are a man and think you are a woman, Jesus Christ, or the Easter bunny, you are delusional.

                                                                                ETA: That's not to say that they're not worthy of respect or sympathy. But the correct treatment is psychotherapy, not genital mutilation. And every shred of research backed that up until it became a political issue.

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                                                                                No matter what Bruce Jenner does, he's still got that Y chromosome.

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                                                                                • #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                                                                  In all seriousness, can one of our progressive IE brothers succinctly articulate why sex is subject to the whims of delusion but race is not?

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                                                                                  I generally think of myself as progressive but I cannot get behind any of this nonsense. I literally shake my damn head at all these things, knowing who is behind them and how that is going to set back worthwhile causes by years. To be fair, though, serious thinking progressive want to be associated with this stuff about as much as serious thinking conservatives want to be associated with the Duggars and Rick Santorum.

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                                                                                  • #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by pkt77242 View Post
                                                                                    This post and some of your previous ones in other threads show that you have no real interest in listening to the other side. You are hardly starting with an open mind.
                                                                                    Au contraire. I honest-to-goodness don't see any difference between pick-your-own gender and pick-your-own race. Both are biological FACTS that the contra-identifier is seeking to deny. One is accepted and even applauded (including by my employer for all of you who think I'm blindly pro-everything-ESPN). The other is dismissed as ridiculous. I ask again, what's the difference?

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                                                                                    • #43
                                                                                      Just so everyone understands: getting a new hairdo, a tan, and saying that you feel black is not enough to make you black, but getting a new hairdo, putting on a dress, and feeling like a woman is enough to make you a woman. Being a victim is so valuable in today's America that many people will go to great lengths to become one.

                                                                                      The oppression Olympics are getting competitive, and the rules are extremely confusing. You had better keep up to date and follow them, though, or be smitten by the media-SJW complex.

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                                                                                      • #44
                                                                                        Turns out her boyfriend may not have been black either

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                                                                                        • #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by wizards8507 View Post
                                                                                          Au contraire. I honest-to-goodness don't see any difference between pick-your-own gender and pick-your-own race. Both are biological FACTS that the contra-identifier is seeking to deny. One is accepted and even applauded (including by my employer for all of you who think I'm blindly pro-everything-ESPN). The other is dismissed as ridiculous. I ask again, what's the difference?

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                                                                                          So I will talk about why I think it might be a real thing (not saying it for sure is) and then a more personal story why I am sympathetic too it.

                                                                                          1. Can we both agree that a male's brain and a female's brain is different? https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...etween-genders

                                                                                          If you can agree that a male's brain and female's brain is different, how is it not possible that someone could be born with a body of male and a brain that is more female (wired like a female, different chemical make-up, different processing, etc)?

                                                                                          If that is possible wouldn't that make them a male externally (sex organs) and a female mentally (by brain structure and function)?

                                                                                          So yes it might be easier to say that they are a male because they have a penis (which is pretty damn easy to tell), it might not be how they feel because their brain is saying something different, all without them being delusional, crazy, etc. They might literally be a male and a female (just not in a way that we can see).

                                                                                          2. The personal story is that one of my fraternity brothers from college is now a female. It definitely make you look at it differently when you see someone who was never comfortable in their own skin, find peace (she is post-op) and to find a purpose (she is really into helping other transgendered people and to fight laws that discriminate against them). Obviously personal experience is very different from factual information or proven through research information but the research lately has been encouraging including the fact that FtM that receive hormone therapy are less likely to commit suicide then the general population (especially when in general transgendered individuals are significantly more likely to commit suicide then the general population) and they also report increased happiness and satisfaction.

                                                                                          Here is what I would say, I think it will be interesting to see what the next 10-15 years of research shows on this topic.

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                                                                                          • #46
                                                                                            The "brother" of a friend of my daughter's has gender identity issues. I can say that "he" was a tortured soul for most of his life. Going through the hormone treatments has given "him" a new lease on life. This shit is weird to many of us, but who else is being hurt. If she wants or needs to be a man, why should I care? Why should anyone be forced to be something they are not? I am creeped out by the whole prospect but whether "he" is called John or Jane does not have a single consequence to my life. This is all part of the pursuit of happiness, whether we understand it or not.
                                                                                            Last edited by GoIrish41; 06-13-2015, 08:52 AM.

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                                                                                            • #47
                                                                                              You can't understand until you are in their shoes..
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                                                                                              • #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                                                It's cute you actually believe that. That's like the #1 lie you read from Social Justice Warriors... that racism is a white construct.

                                                                                                Pretty much every civilization in the history of mankind has shown racism when given the opportunity. Asian cultures are incredibly racist, in Africa tribal racism leads to genocide, in biblical times Egyptians practiced racial slavery... and on and on and on. It's rooted in xenophobic and tribal instincts of primates.

                                                                                                But yeah, those damn white dudes are the ones who made it a big deal long ago... if it weren't for them, no one on this globe would be a bigot.
                                                                                                None of that changes the fact that this country has an ugly history when it comes to race and white people are pretty much responsible for it.

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                                                                                                • #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DCIrish View Post
                                                                                                  None of that changes the fact that this country has an ugly history when it comes to race and white people are pretty much responsible for it.
                                                                                                  Kill whitey!

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                                                                                                  • #50
                                                                                                    What country has any kind of rich diversity without having an ugly history with it? Not excusing anything but I'm tired of the myopic, 'America sucks' dialogue on race...it gets plenty worse, and few have done it much better
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                                                                                                    This sig will not change until The Browns win the Super Bowl... So get real used to it.

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