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  • Irish YJ
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    Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post

    I listened to Dakich last week for the first time in over a year. Kept it on for about 20 minutes and changed it. Having said that, I read up on the controversy and this is much ado about nothing IMO. "Woke" educators being way too sensitive.
    Yup. DD is a bag of Summer's Eve, but woke folk shouldn't be surprised when they get into it with shock jocks.

    And just in general, fuck ESPN.... and that includes DD. And all the woke folk.

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  • Irish#1
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    Originally posted by Ndaccountant View Post
    Is this the time Dan Dakich finally gets the pink slip? I personally can't stand him as he thinks his "take" carries more weight than it does and he is just awful. But how many times can he be in the news before ESPN finally says enough?
    I listened to Dakich last week for the first time in over a year. Kept it on for about 20 minutes and changed it. Having said that, I read up on the controversy and this is much ado about nothing IMO. "Woke" educators being way too sensitive.

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  • ulukinatme
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    Originally posted by Ndaccountant View Post
    Is this the time Dan Dakich finally gets the pink slip? I personally can't stand him as he thinks his "take" carries more weight than it does and he is just awful. But how many times can he be in the news before ESPN finally says enough?
    I dunno. Dana Jacobson fucked up a few times and they let her hang around for years. Of course, the first strike was being a bigoted Michigan grad.

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  • Ndaccountant
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    Is this the time Dan Dakich finally gets the pink slip? I personally can't stand him as he thinks his "take" carries more weight than it does and he is just awful. But how many times can he be in the news before ESPN finally says enough?

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  • irishtrooper
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    Originally posted by ulukinatme View Post
    He's been doing radio for over 20 years, so if he's rusty in the booth I get it. I only saw him do a few games, but he didn't seem that bad to me.

    Me either. Iím not saying heís Romo, but heís not bad. Plus heís got other abilities that ESPN can use. Heís infinitely more likable than Kellerman or SAS for instance. That being said I donít even watch ESPN anymore unless itís for a game. Iím tired of being preached to about politics. I prefer Golic in the booth over Aikman for sure.....

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  • ulukinatme
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    Originally posted by dublinirish View Post
    he's been awful in the booth covering CFB this season FWIW
    He's been doing radio for over 20 years, so if he's rusty in the booth I get it. I only saw him do a few games, but he didn't seem that bad to me.

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  • dublinirish
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    Originally posted by ulukinatme View Post
    Just saw Golic is getting let go? WTF. ESPN has done some boneheaded things the last 5 years, but this has to be one of the bigger ones. It's funny that Greenberg wanted his own show, threw Golic under the bus, and it turns out the Get Up show sucks. Why? Nobody wants to listen to Greenberg. Here's hoping Mike lands somewhere he's appreciated.

    https://thespun.com/more/top-stories...ouncement-news
    he's been awful in the booth covering CFB this season FWIW

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  • ulukinatme
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    Just saw Golic is getting let go? WTF. ESPN has done some boneheaded things the last 5 years, but this has to be one of the bigger ones. It's funny that Greenberg wanted his own show, threw Golic under the bus, and it turns out the Get Up show sucks. Why? Nobody wants to listen to Greenberg. Here's hoping Mike lands somewhere he's appreciated.

    https://thespun.com/more/top-stories...ouncement-news

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  • NDFAN420
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    Thanks! That was definitely helpful.

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  • GowerND11
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    Originally posted by greyhammer90 View Post
    SP+ is a similar ranking system that explains its methodology quite a bit. It had ND move backwards from 7th to 8th after this win as well. Basically the computer did the math, and said "ND would have only won that game 40% of the time," so it reacted accordingly. It's important to remember that these are formulations designed to help people know what to expect when two teams play (read: it's meant to help gamblers decide how to bet on a spread more than actually rank the teams). It's not meant to be a determination of who the best team is, who has the best resume, or who deserves anything.
    Bingo. They also try to take the luck out of the equation. So the Wu fumble recovery for a TD was taken out of the final score in FPI, so they "count it as a Clemson win." Its certainly an interesting system, but as you said it's more about the spread, predictability, and gambling than ranking the teams.

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  • greyhammer90
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    Originally posted by NDFAN420 View Post
    Is there a description of their formula anywhere? I tried looking at the FPI page but couldn't find anything. It really makes me think the same way about the allstate playoff predictor. That at this point in the season, the underlying numbers rely more on opinion and a wet thumb in the air, rather than anything substantive.
    SP+ is a similar ranking system that explains its methodology quite a bit. It had ND move backwards from 7th to 8th after this win as well. Basically the computer did the math, and said "ND would have only won that game 40% of the time," so it reacted accordingly. It's important to remember that these are formulations designed to help people know what to expect when two teams play (read: it's meant to help gamblers decide how to bet on a spread more than actually rank the teams). It's not meant to be a determination of who the best team is, who has the best resume, or who deserves anything.
    Last edited by greyhammer90; 11-08-2020, 10:04 PM.

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  • NDFAN420
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    Originally posted by GowerND11 View Post
    FPI isn't a ranking, that's what you have to remember about it. It takes everything into account to make predictions about results, not who is better. We can't get hung up on it.
    Is there a description of their formula anywhere? I tried looking at the FPI page but couldn't find anything. It really makes me think the same way about the allstate playoff predictor. That at this point in the season, the underlying numbers rely more on opinion and a wet thumb in the air, rather than anything substantive.

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  • GowerND11
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    Originally posted by bkess8 View Post
    I find this hilarious on so many levels. So you are telling me ESPN that ND beat the number 1 team in the nation and fell in your FPI (football power index). What is this based on, strength of schedule, wins, conference bias? With the upcoming layoffs ESPN is becoming more irrelevant by the day.

    Here is their top 10, enjoy the laugh.
    10. Texas 5-2 moved up 2
    9. Oregon 1-0 up 1
    8. Oklahoma 5-2 NC
    7. Notre Dame 7-0 down 1
    6. Florida 4-1 up 3
    5. Georgia 4-2 NC
    4. Wisconsin 1-0 NC
    3. Clemson 7-1 NC
    2. Ohio State 3-0 down 1
    1. Alabama 6-0 up 1

    Shakeup in ESPN's Football Power Index Top 25
    FPI isn't a ranking, that's what you have to remember about it. It takes everything into account to make predictions about results, not who is better. We can't get hung up on it.

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  • bkess8
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    If we had and played OSU's schedule as of today we wouldn't be in the top 10.

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  • Irish YJ
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    Originally posted by BabyIrish View Post
    Alabama passes OSU on a bye week?
    I'm guessing it's because their best win, vs PSU, doesn't look so great now. OSU, IMO, never should have been in front of Bama. Bama is putting up like 45ppg and has convincing wins over TAMU and UGA.

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  • BabyIrish
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    Originally posted by Irish YJ View Post
    I can mentally accept Bama and OSU. I can even accept, not agree, but just accept Clemson being ahead of us.

    Wisconsin?? After only one game, which was against IL? WTF
    UGA?? Their offense looks anemic, and they just gave up 44pts.
    FL?? Aren't they giving up like 30pts a game?
    Alabama passes OSU on a bye week?

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  • Irish YJ
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    I can mentally accept Bama and OSU. I can even accept, not agree, but just accept Clemson being ahead of us.

    Wisconsin?? After only one game, which was against IL? WTF
    UGA?? Their offense looks anemic, and they just gave up 44pts.
    FL?? Aren't they giving up like 30pts a game?

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  • ThePiombino
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    Originally posted by bkess8 View Post
    I find this hilarious on so many levels. So you are telling me ESPN that ND beat the number 1 team in the nation and fell in your FPI (football power index). What is this based on, strength of schedule, wins, conference bias? With the upcoming layoffs ESPN is becoming more irrelevant by the day.

    Here is their top 10, enjoy the laugh.
    10. Texas 5-2 moved up 2
    9. Oregon 1-0 up 1
    8. Oklahoma 5-2 NC
    7. Notre Dame 7-0 down 1
    6. Florida 4-1 up 3
    5. Georgia 4-2 NC
    4. Wisconsin 1-0 NC
    3. Clemson 7-1 NC
    2. Ohio State 3-0 down 1
    1. Alabama 6-0 up 1

    Shakeup in ESPN's Football Power Index Top 25
    This is actually hilarious lol

    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

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  • Guyjin37
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    If you read the descriptions on that power index, even ESPN is starting to question the FPI.

    Explain this, ESPN. Notre Dame beats top-ranked Clemson at home and sees its poll position be negatively-affected as a result? Despite staying unbeaten, the Irish have a 36.2% shot at winning the ACC, which is considerably lower than the team they just beat (60.2%). ESPN's FPI must know something we don't about the rematch in a couple of weeks.

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  • Irish YJ
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    ESPN sucks almost as much as Skunkbears.

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  • Old Man Mike
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    Fortunately, that nonsense is irrelevant.

    ... unlike ourselves.

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  • bkess8
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    I find this hilarious on so many levels. So you are telling me ESPN that ND beat the number 1 team in the nation and fell in your FPI (football power index). What is this based on, strength of schedule, wins, conference bias? With the upcoming layoffs ESPN is becoming more irrelevant by the day.

    Here is their top 10, enjoy the laugh.
    10. Texas 5-2 moved up 2
    9. Oregon 1-0 up 1
    8. Oklahoma 5-2 NC
    7. Notre Dame 7-0 down 1
    6. Florida 4-1 up 3
    5. Georgia 4-2 NC
    4. Wisconsin 1-0 NC
    3. Clemson 7-1 NC
    2. Ohio State 3-0 down 1
    1. Alabama 6-0 up 1

    Shakeup in ESPN's Football Power Index Top 25

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  • ThePiombino
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    Herbstreit butchering JOK's name on CGD right now. SMH...

    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

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  • NDdomer2
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    this is second time for all of this right?

    Maybe this is part of why we havent seen wiz recently, he works for espn no?

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  • dublinirish
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I came to work at ESPN 18 years ago today, on Nov. 5, 2002, as the first college football writer at <a href="https://t.co/01M4kGwztH">https://t.co/01M4kGwztH</a>. On the day that my employment became an adult, ESPN informed me that upon expiration of my contract on Jan. 31, I will no longer be working here. 1/</p>&mdash; Ivan Maisel (@Ivan_Maisel) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ivan_Maisel/status/1324450100358356993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm sorry about all of the vitriol over the ESPN layoffs on Twitter today. I'm one of the people who lost my job. I worked there more than 22 years. I'm luckier than most. A lot of good people are losing their jobs. It's nothing to celebrate. It's a very sad day in Bristol.</p>&mdash; Elida Witthoeft (@elidawitthoeft) <a href="https://twitter.com/elidawitthoeft/status/1324435508173414401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sad to say I am one of those caught in ESPN’s cuts today. Could not be more thankful to have had the chance to work with some incredible people. Got to live my dream for a few years and do some of the best work of my career. Still have some stuff coming before I’m done, too.</p>&mdash; Chris Peters (@chrismpeters) <a href="https://twitter.com/chrismpeters/status/1324422279581769728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    seems to be alot of espn.com writers

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  • Irish#1
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    Inevitable given how they've changed. COVID just accelerated some of this. Hate to see people losing their jobs, especially as the holiday season is fast approaching.

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  • Circa
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    https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/s...416169475?s=21

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  • Bishop2b5
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    Originally posted by zelezo vlk View Post
    Hope Wiz's job is safe.

    Sent from my SM-J337U using Tapatalk
    Didn't Wiz mention a year or so ago that he'd moved on to another employer, or am I misremembering?

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  • ACamp1900
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    Yeah the Kellerman quote is batshit,... I’m watching a bunch of Gameday for the first time in at least a year (maybe more honestly) and it’s just tired imo

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  • drayer54
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    ESPN has become trash. I hope Kellerman gets fired. Outkick has started it's own TV brand for people who aren't bleeding heart liberals since sports has somehow become partisan. I actually like it better though.

    Real story may be no different than any other business about to be sold off- https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ng-rid-of-espn

    “ESPN used to be this unbelievable thing, and now it’s just a really expensive thing they are having trouble monetizing,” Cramer added. “ESPN is no longer the precious place that it once was.”
    Last edited by drayer54; 10-17-2020, 10:30 AM.

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  • ACamp1900
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    Originally posted by zelezo vlk View Post
    Hope Wiz's job is safe.

    Sent from my SM-J337U using Tapatalk
    This was my first thought,...

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  • zelezo vlk
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    Hope Wiz's job is safe.

    Sent from my SM-J337U using Tapatalk

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  • texbender
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    Originally posted by calvegas04 View Post
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One source from within ESPN reportedly said that the layoffs could be between 300 and 700 employees. <a href="https://t.co/4ty7daRHnD">https://t.co/4ty7daRHnD</a></p>&mdash; The Western Journal (@WestJournalism) <a href="https://twitter.com/WestJournalism/status/1315409094451187714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    Not glad anyone losing their job, but essentially these are NOT ESSENTIAL, especially in the minds of the corporate beancounters. Hope they start by drastically reducing the talking heads that yack non-stop about nothing. Get a real job.
    Last edited by texbender; 10-17-2020, 08:42 AM.

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  • Irish YJ
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  • calvegas04
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One source from within ESPN reportedly said that the layoffs could be between 300 and 700 employees. <a href="https://t.co/4ty7daRHnD">https://t.co/4ty7daRHnD</a></p>&mdash; The Western Journal (@WestJournalism) <a href="https://twitter.com/WestJournalism/status/1315409094451187714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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  • drayer54
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    Originally posted by dublinirish View Post
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lastly, Kellerman may be wrong that riots themselves are *explicitly* caused by right-wing agitators, but the worst violence we are seeing during these events (to humans, not property) is arguably coming from the batshit Boogaloo movement: <a href="https://t.co/gnVh8jJci9">https://t.co/gnVh8jJci9</a> <a href="https://t.co/KjsfVoNmZ6">pic.twitter.com/KjsfVoNmZ6</a></p>&mdash; Luke Thomas (@lthomasnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/lthomasnews/status/1308563480300204034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    This is sarcasm, right?

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  • dublinirish
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lastly, Kellerman may be wrong that riots themselves are *explicitly* caused by right-wing agitators, but the worst violence we are seeing during these events (to humans, not property) is arguably coming from the batshit Boogaloo movement: <a href="https://t.co/gnVh8jJci9">https://t.co/gnVh8jJci9</a> <a href="https://t.co/KjsfVoNmZ6">pic.twitter.com/KjsfVoNmZ6</a></p>&mdash; Luke Thomas (@lthomasnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/lthomasnews/status/1308563480300204034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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  • drayer54
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    MSESPN at it again:
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN&#39;s Max Kellerman says without any evidence that &quot;extremist right-wing agitators&quot; are responsible for the riots around America.<br><br>This is insanity. <a href="https://t.co/woOvFtwIvr">pic.twitter.com/woOvFtwIvr</a></p>&mdash; David Hookstead (@dhookstead) <a href="https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/1308451193962729473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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  • 317Irish
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    -College Football Playoff Chase: Let’s Break Down The Race For The No. 4 Spot Already. Brain Kelly....
    -Week 3 schedule: unranked USF vs unranked ND

    I understand that there are journalistic errors here and there but I find these on ESPN regarding ND to be more intentional. The above are just the ones at this point in time, but there always seems to be something.

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  • BeatSC
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    That was a gimme a break moment. Felt contrived frankly and almost gratuitous. I would have liked to see a lot more crap thrown at the Big 10 and PAC 10 for pussin out. Not sure if the talked about the added year of eligibility enough and how useless a spring schedule of PAC 10 and Big 10 football would be.

    I also think espn has been sitting back and hoping for political reasons CFB craps out as their has been no college football live leading up to this season as if it was a foregone conclusion it would be cancelled because Herbie thought so.

    On a more controversial note I will miss Flutie in the booth. Kind of humiliating for him to now be relegating him to sideline duty. I guess we are making way for Drew.

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  • Irish YJ
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    Originally posted by calvegas04 View Post
    Not sure if that was legit or acting
    If you look real close in reflection of the picture glass, you can see the ESPN assistant cutting onions below Herb.

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  • IrishLax
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    Originally posted by calvegas04 View Post
    Not sure if that was legit or acting
    I mean.... it seems pretty authentic to me.

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  • calvegas04
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    Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
    I'm going to post it, don't want this to get too political so will move it later if need be, but that was for certain one of the most unique things I've seen on GameDay.
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is one of the most extraordinary moments in the history of College GameDay <a href="https://t.co/7wW1CGP64j">pic.twitter.com/7wW1CGP64j</a></p>&mdash; Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) <a href="https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1302287403453943808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    Not sure if that was legit or acting

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  • Old Man Mike
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    What Book-for-Heisman would take:

    A. A high-quality completion percentage year. (has proved that he can do this.)
    B. A high-TD-to-interceptions ratio. (has proved that he can do this.)
    C. Wins a game or two with his legs (has proved that he can do this.)
    D. Beats Clemson and gets ND into the playoffs (Big IF, but I'm not giving up on the idea that this team can do that.)

    ND>Clemson=Book>Lawrence in voting. Who else is the competition (on other NC teams)?

    This may be unlikely but I'm not starting the season saying it's crazy.

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  • IrishLax
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    Originally posted by zelezo vlk View Post
    I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities that Book could be a finalist. But that's mainly due to my belief that a very successful ND team will nearly always have a representative in NYC.
    I have a hard time seeing Book being a finalist, mainly because I think we run the ball a lot this year and I think until Kevin Austin comes back the Skowroneck/Lenzy/Keys + young guys passing attack isn't going to put up Clemson or Oklahoma numbers through the air. But it's certainly possible, especially with Tommy Rees not running a dumbass scheme anymore that hamstrings everyone.

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  • IrishLax
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    Originally posted by Irish YJ View Post
    Did you see Herb's emotional moment..
    I'm going to post it, don't want this to get too political so will move it later if need be, but that was for certain one of the most unique things I've seen on GameDay.
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is one of the most extraordinary moments in the history of College GameDay <a href="https://t.co/7wW1CGP64j">pic.twitter.com/7wW1CGP64j</a></p>&mdash; Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) <a href="https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1302287403453943808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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  • Irish YJ
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    Originally posted by Irish2155 View Post
    Corso just picked Book for Heisman this year. He also predicted ND to the Final Four....
    Did you see Herb's emotional moment..

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  • zelezo vlk
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    I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities that Book could be a finalist. But that's mainly due to my belief that a very successful ND team will nearly always have a representative in NYC.

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  • Irish YJ
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    Originally posted by Irish2155 View Post
    Corso just picked Book for Heisman this year. He also predicted ND to the Final Four....
    If he has a good year, and we can beat Clemson, not out of the question with the new Reesus O. Long shot, but not too crazy.

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  • Irish2155
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    Corso just picked Book for Heisman this year. He also predicted ND to the Final Four....
    Last edited by Irish2155; 09-05-2020, 12:01 PM.

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