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  • Biden Presidency

    The 2020 election is essentially over. There are still some races and states not officially called, but Joe Biden appears to have more than enough electoral votes to become our next president.
    Winners see success and want to climb up to its level. Losers see success and want to drag it down to their own.

  • #2
    I think the biggest challenge for Biden will be repairing the institution of the government. The State Department, Justice Department, EPA, and even the post office have been broken just to name the ones that immediately come to mind. Fixing them is going to be a big job.
    "Yes, they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!"
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    • #3
      Originally posted by GoldenToTheGrave View Post
      I think the biggest challenge for Biden will be repairing the institution of the government. The State Department, Justice Department, EPA, and even the post office have been broken just to name the ones that immediately come to mind. Fixing them is going to be a big job.
      Agreed. A staggering amount of damage has been done to those institutions during the past four years. I donít know that it can be repair quickly.

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      • #4
        Last night Biden made the following comments:

        "In America we hold strong views, we have strong disagreements, and that’s OK.

        Strong disagreements are inevitable in a democracy, and strong disagreements are healthy.

        They’re a sign of vigorous debate, of deeply held views.

        But we have to remember: the purpose of our politics isn’t total, unrelenting, unending warfare.

        No. The purpose of our politics, the work of the nation, isn’t to fan the flames of conflict, but to solve problems, to guarantee justice, to give everybody a fair shot, to improve the lives of our people.

        We may be opponents – but we are not enemies. We are Americans.

        No matter who you voted for, I’m certain of one thing: The vast majority of the 150 million Americans, they want to get the vitriol out of our politics. We’re certainly not going to agree on a lot of the issues, but we can at least agree to be civil to one another.

        Let’s put the anger and the demonisation behind us.

        It’s time for us to come together as a nation and heal.

        It’s not gonna be easy, but we have to try.

        My responsibility as president will be to represent the whole nation. And I want you to know that I will work as hard for those who voted against me as for those who voted for me.

        That’s the job. That’s the job. It’s called a duty of care, for all Americans.

        We have serious problems to deal with — Covid, the economy, racial justice, climate change,

        We don’t have any more time to waste on partisan warfare."

        All politicians say such things upon election. I hope for our nation's sake that he's sincere and puts genuine effort into healing some of the divides and anger and hatred in our nation.
        Winners see success and want to climb up to its level. Losers see success and want to drag it down to their own.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bishop2b5 View Post
          The 2020 election is essentially over. There are still some races and states not officially called, but Joe Biden appears to have more than enough electoral votes to become our next president.
          Indeed it's over.

          Joe Biden is the next President Elect. The country will be better off for the next 4 years opposed to the alternative.

          I can't find any examples where a recount overturned more than a few hundred votes.

          It's sad that Donald is playing the card that he is. He will still stir up the far right but those types are usually pretty set in their ways and are who they are.

          A lot of work ahead but the country can navigate through the pandemic while keeping the economy thriving. It's pretty simple on how it will improve.
          Face masks indoors and social distancing.
          It's not the shut down/socialism and "we won't have a country" that Donald made it out to be.

          Time to turn the page.

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          Go Irish!

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          • #6
            I'm not optimistic.

            We may be better off than with Trump, hard not to be, but I'm also not naive and thinking many of these problems just suddenly materialized under Trump. They in fact, have been institutional problems for years.

            They were a problem under Obama, Bush, Clinton. The executive overreach is something every president has helped foster and grow. I think Biden will exploit it less domestically, but I'm very skeptical he'll do the same from a foreign perspective. I want to believe that Biden will be the one to do an about face and eliminate a lot of that overreach and perhaps create some sort of bridge between the bipartisan, but given his past, I don't see that happening, nor do I think he has the energy or demeanor to inspire such a bridging.

            I wish Trump would just fade into obscurity and the radical followers would just play ball. But I don't see that happening and to be fair, there are very few on the left that are in any position to complain about that. We're seeing a lot from the right that we saw from the left 4 years ago.

            With time, I hope we purge the Trumpisms from the political structure, but this country has far more issues that predate him and will possibly get worse after his leave.

            Hoping for the best, but not counting on it.
            Last edited by Crazy Balki; 11-07-2020, 03:16 PM.
            It's Just a Ride.

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            • #7
              Problem is the two sides really can’t work together and compromise. There are so many partisan outlets that won’t allow it. I remember people here is Tennessee getting mad when Senator Corker played golf with Obama, calling him a RINO. People want their politicians to battle the “enemy”. If they don’t, they’re sellouts. Doubt it gets any better under Biden.
              "The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood." - Lou Holtz

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              • #8
                Originally posted by arahop View Post
                Indeed it's over.

                Joe Biden is the next President Elect. The country will be better off for the next 4 years opposed to the alternative.

                I can't find any examples where a recount overturned more than a few hundred votes.

                It's sad that Donald is playing the card that he is. He will still stir up the far right but those types are usually pretty set in their ways and are who they are.

                A lot of work ahead but the country can navigate through the pandemic while keeping the economy thriving. It's pretty simple on how it will improve.
                Face masks indoors and social distancing.
                It's not the shut down/socialism and "we won't have a country" that Donald made it out to be.

                Time to turn the page.

                God
                Country
                Notre Dame

                Go Irish!
                Yeah I don't anticipate any big changes but this was also a goofy election compared to past ones so I guess it's possible.

                There isn't anything the Feds are going to be able to do on the virus stuff beyond vaccines. People are going to need to accept that and move on.

                God willing, Perdue and Loeffler win in GA and the Senate can kneecap Uncle Joe until he retires/dies.
                Based Mullet Kid owns

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NorthDakota View Post
                  Yeah I don't anticipate any big changes but this was also a goofy election compared to past ones so I guess it's possible.

                  There isn't anything the Feds are going to be able to do on the virus stuff beyond vaccines. People are going to need to accept that and move on.

                  God willing, Perdue and Loeffler win in GA and the Senate can kneecap Uncle Joe until he retires/dies.
                  It was a strange election.
                  We've never had a President claim victory on election night and disgrace American democracy.

                  Never had a President try to stop voting in states that he lead in at the time and continue to count where he was behind.

                  Never had a President try and spit on the election process and sue multiple states in the Union.

                  Never had a President try and de-fund the US Postal service in order to not get the mail in vote.

                  Never had a President claim the election was rigged before, during and after he lost...Well he did say it was rigged leading up to the 2016 election.. so that's happened.

                  Must have been a gut punch for the mail in ballot get counted last and lead to an Electoral landslide.

                  God's Will?

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                  • #10
                    He has no mandate but will claim one. Hunter's day rate will skyrocket. Dems will play martyr and invoke the 25th amendment heading into midterms, anointing Kamala in a move that will backfire into an enormous red wave. Voting irregularities highlighted in 2020 will not be available for Dem exploitation in 2022 - much like Florida is now surprisingly red since they fixed their processes.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by arahop View Post
                      It was a strange election.
                      We've never had a President claim victory on election night and disgrace American democracy.

                      Never had a President try to stop voting in states that he lead in at the time and continue to count where he was behind.

                      Never had a President try and spit on the election process and sue multiple states in the Union.

                      Never had a President try and de-fund the US Postal service in order to not get the mail in vote.

                      Never had a President claim the election was rigged before, during and after he lost...Well he did say it was rigged leading up to the 2016 election.. so that's happened.

                      Must have been a gut punch for the mail in ballot get counted last and lead to an Electoral landslide.

                      God's Will?
                      There is absolutely nothing wrong with suing states. That's not spitting on anything.

                      The whole "ermagerrrd post office!" was one of the bigger jokes of the summer. That was Jade Helm level tinfoil hat nonsense.

                      He has handled the entire post-election time very poorly and there isn't much good to say about that, but methinks you are being a bit silly with how you've framed it. The dude says and does many dumb things, I have yet to figure out why people attribute fake stuff (the post office) or normal behavior (filing lawsuits) as Orange Mam Bad moments.

                      I am pretty sure he's toast, but litigation in a series of tightly contested states is hardly unexpected and I wouldnt hold it against Biden, Hillary, Bush, Gore, etc in wanting that resolved.
                      Based Mullet Kid owns

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                      • #12
                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We all know about Joe Biden’s love of Seamus Heaney. So myself and VT editors Meabh Kearney and Cliona Higgins put this together to wrap this historic day for <a href="https://twitter.com/rtenews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rtenews</a> <a href="https://t.co/32oT0nAvkS">pic.twitter.com/32oT0nAvkS</a></p>&mdash; Jackie Fox (@jackiefox_) <a href="https://twitter.com/jackiefox_/status/1325193576456744960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                        What did Davonte do?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dublinirish View Post
                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We all know about Joe Biden’s love of Seamus Heaney. So myself and VT editors Meabh Kearney and Cliona Higgins put this together to wrap this historic day for <a href="https://twitter.com/rtenews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rtenews</a> <a href="https://t.co/32oT0nAvkS">pic.twitter.com/32oT0nAvkS</a></p>&mdash; Jackie Fox (@jackiefox_) <a href="https://twitter.com/jackiefox_/status/1325193576456744960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                          JFC this thread will die in two pages if this is the boring tripe we get to look forward to for the next 4 years*.



                          *warning - everyone on both sides of the aisle knows with 150% confidence that the Kamalatoe will be taking over well before Joe's 4 years are up.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RDU Irish View Post
                            JFC this thread will die in two pages if this is the boring tripe we get to look forward to for the next 4 years*.



                            *warning - everyone on both sides of the aisle knows with 150% confidence that the Kamalatoe will be taking over well before Joe's 4 years are up
                            .
                            Agree, the toll the office takes on a person mentally and physically will probably have a bigger effect on someone his age.

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                            • #15
                              Do not want: Rahm Emmanuel and Larry Summers in the administration. Not much to ask.

                              Cheri Bustos is out with the DCCC. Great start. She'll probably lose her seat in 2022, although if someone competent comes in to replace her with the DCCC maybe she'll have a shot at staying in the House. If not, one less neoliberal goof to deal with.

                              Looking forward to seeing the QAnon goofs in the House. Should be an absolute blast.

                              Looking forward to everyone suddenly being concerned about the deficit again. Oh, and Republicans won't have to say things "privately" any longer, which should be a wonderful relief for them.
                              It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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